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9/19/2007 3:49:32 PM EDT
Last round, the bolt stays back.  Once a new clip is inserted and seated, the follower bottoms out and somehow releases the bolt on your thumb.  I know all about "Garand Thumb" but is this designed function or a sign of a worn part or spring?  I'd love for the bolt to stay back after the new clip is seated, so I can manually release it.

Any insight?
9/19/2007 4:34:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, you're not going to get what you want.  That's the way it is supposed to work.  I'll give you a tip, when you load a clip, take the heal of your hand and hold back the op rod while pushing down with your right thumb. Then once it's seated, instead of slamming forward and you trying to get your thumb out of the way, your hand will be holding it back until you want to let go.  Throw your arm forward and let her rip.  If you need to give her a tap to go all the way, do it.  It is a great mechanism in my opinion.  It may take a little practice for some to get used to it.  My dad always has a little trouble with it too.  But I'm constantly showing him how to manipulate all his guns.
9/19/2007 5:18:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Got it. Thanks.
9/19/2007 9:13:58 PM EDT
[#3]
As long as you hold pressure down on the rounds after inserting them it shouldn't release.
It's when you release the pressure is when the OP rod moves. If this still doesn't work then there may be some worn parts, but I can't remember what at this time. It's 1 am
Here's the quote from the manual

FM 23-5
12. Loading the Rifle

b.) Full clip. To load a full clip, hold the rifle at the balance with the left hand and pull the operating rod handle all the way to the rear. Place the butt of the rifle against the thigh or on the ground. With the right hand, place a full clip on top of the follower assembly. Place the thumb on the center of the top round in the clip and press the clip straight down into the receiver until it catches. Swing the right hand up and to the right to clear the bolt in its forward movement. Note that the operating rod is not held to the rear during loading since there is no danger of it going forward as long as pressure is maintained on the top round in the clip. It may be necessary to strike forward on the operating rod handle with the heel of the right hand to fully close and lock the bolt."
9/20/2007 8:51:35 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
As long as you hold pressure down on the rounds after inserting them it shouldn't release.


+1

You'd have to be asleep to get your finger caught while loading.  Besides, if you're doing it correctly, the oprod handle should be pushing your hand clear of the chamber.

9/20/2007 9:28:30 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
As long as you hold pressure down on the rounds after inserting them it shouldn't release.


+1

You'd have to be asleep to get your finger caught while loading.  Besides, if you're doing it correctly, the oprod handle should be pushing your hand clear of the chamber.



Ditto.....

Most cases of "M1 Thumb" occur when somebody is fooling around with an empty rifle..... not when they are loading with a full clip.

Best,
Swampy

Garands forever
9/20/2007 10:11:11 AM EDT
[#6]
You could try the  HOLBROOK DEVICE.  

Link:  http://www.dgrguns.com/0-main-page-accessories.htm

go about 2/3 the way down that page.  Holbrook device makes the M1 act like an M-14 as far as the op-rod action goes.  
9/20/2007 10:30:01 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
You could try the  HOLBROOK DEVICE.  

Link:  http://www.dgrguns.com/0-main-page-accessories.htm

go about 2/3 the way down that page.  Holbrook device makes the M1 act like an M-14 as far as the op-rod action goes.  


I've looked into that, but I don't like that it also prevents clip ejection.
9/21/2007 3:42:08 AM EDT
[#8]

I've looked into that, but I don't like that it also prevents clip ejection.


Yup.....   and turns what is absolutely the fastest to reload battle rifle ever made into an also ran for reload time.

Just my 2 cents.

Best to all,
Swampy

Garands forever
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