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My grandfather has an almost perfect H&R M1. I was checking it out and the trigger is not what I expected.
When you pull it travels back and clicks into place. With additional pull it then fires with no additional travel and resets to unfired position. Is this a 2 stage trigger or is it broken? TIA |
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Posted: 1/2/2002 12:58:21 PM EDT
The trigger should smoothly move from the rest position to a point where additional resistance is felt. The distance traveled up to this point is maybe 2/3 of the total travel.
Exerting additional pressure on the trigger will overcome its resistance, allow it to move an additional short distance, and the hammer will then be released. Some overtravel past the hammer release point may be present. Properly set-up M1 and M1A triggers are quite excellent for service rifles. Not sure about the "click" you mentioned, though. |
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Posted: 1/2/2002 12:59:01 PM EDT
Have you taken the trigger group out & looked at it? It comes out as a single entity so there's no springs or parts flying out at you or anything. You can cock the hammer & pull the trigger with the group out of the rifle. Don't let the hammer fall full speed when you do this, it's not really good for it when that happens. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2002 12:59:27 PM EDT
Nope, it's a single stage trigger alright. That's just how it was designed. When I use the M-1 for competition I use the fact that it's got a lot of travel, and start squeezing trigger which you could hold half-way indefinitely.
This is a tip from one of the Jim Owens books I have. |
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:00:51 PM EDT
The gun is normal.
When you get a chance, pull the triger pack and take a look. The trigger-disconnector is connected to one another. After a shoot is fired, the disconector will catch the hammer, on releasing the trigger, the hammer is retained by the trigger sear. The first creep you feel is the hammer riding the trigger sear to the diconector. The second/greater pull is the hammer pushing on the disconnector and releasing. The reason that there is creep is that the trigger sear and disconector have to have a overlap to retain the hammer. |
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:01:13 PM EDT
Well, except for the 'clicking into position' your description sounds like a normal 2 stage trigger.
A 2 stage trigger has a bit of travel at initial take-up. It then reaches a point where it "stops." At this point adding a couple extra pounds of pressure will complete the pull and release the hammer. Nowhere in the process should there be a 'click.' If there is, please have a gunsmith look it over. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:01:45 PM EDT
Whoa, 3 posts in less than a minute. Great minds think a like.
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:05:07 PM EDT
The click is the hammer striking the firing pin.
If you have a loaded M-1, Then the click will be a BOOM!!!! |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:05:09 PM EDT
And then two more posts. Are we all waiting for our wives to get back from shopping?
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:09:29 PM EDT
Just because this place is called AR15.com doesn't mean we don't like our M1's too.
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Posted: 1/2/2002 1:51:09 PM EDT
You M-1 is broken, and seriously dangerous.
Please send it to me for appropriate "dispossal." |
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