
Posted: 1/2/2002 11:47:47 AM EDT
My grandfather has an almost perfect H&R M1. I was checking it out and the trigger is not what I expected.
When you pull it travels back and clicks into place. With additional pull it then fires with no additional travel and resets to unfired position. Is this a 2 stage trigger or is it broken? TIA |
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The trigger should smoothly move from the rest position to a point where additional resistance is felt. The distance traveled up to this point is maybe 2/3 of the total travel.
Exerting additional pressure on the trigger will overcome its resistance, allow it to move an additional short distance, and the hammer will then be released. Some overtravel past the hammer release point may be present. Properly set-up M1 and M1A triggers are quite excellent for service rifles. Not sure about the "click" you mentioned, though. |
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"The M1 Rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised." General George S. Patton Jr.,US Army
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Have you taken the trigger group out & looked at it? It comes out as a single entity so there's no springs or parts flying out at you or anything. You can cock the hammer & pull the trigger with the group out of the rifle. Don't let the hammer fall full speed when you do this, it's not really good for it when that happens. |
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I live in a modest home with an immodest array of firearms.
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Nope, it's a single stage trigger alright. That's just how it was designed. When I use the M-1 for competition I use the fact that it's got a lot of travel, and start squeezing trigger which you could hold half-way indefinitely.
This is a tip from one of the Jim Owens books I have. |
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The gun is normal.
When you get a chance, pull the triger pack and take a look. The trigger-disconnector is connected to one another. After a shoot is fired, the disconector will catch the hammer, on releasing the trigger, the hammer is retained by the trigger sear. The first creep you feel is the hammer riding the trigger sear to the diconector. The second/greater pull is the hammer pushing on the disconnector and releasing. The reason that there is creep is that the trigger sear and disconector have to have a overlap to retain the hammer. |
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I once thought that I had all the answers, but after consorting with the "Magic 8 Ball", I have found it to be "Doubtable Not So".
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Well, except for the 'clicking into position' your description sounds like a normal 2 stage trigger.
A 2 stage trigger has a bit of travel at initial take-up. It then reaches a point where it "stops." At this point adding a couple extra pounds of pressure will complete the pull and release the hammer. Nowhere in the process should there be a 'click.' If there is, please have a gunsmith look it over. |
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Tom (Selleck): Let's just say that I disagree with you but I think you're being stupid.
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Whoa, 3 posts in less than a minute. Great minds think a like.
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The click is the hammer striking the firing pin.
If you have a loaded M-1, Then the click will be a BOOM!!!! |
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I once thought that I had all the answers, but after consorting with the "Magic 8 Ball", I have found it to be "Doubtable Not So".
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And then two more posts. Are we all waiting for our wives to get back from shopping?
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Just because this place is called AR15.com doesn't mean we don't like our M1's too.
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Tom (Selleck): Let's just say that I disagree with you but I think you're being stupid.
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You M-1 is broken, and seriously dangerous.
Please send it to me for appropriate "dispossal." |
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My motto ? "Shoot first, questions later. You get alot less questions that way."
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