Colt M4LE Lower question

Armory » General NFA Questions

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt M4LE Lower question

Posted: 5/31/2010 7:15:41 AM EDT

Does the Colt 6921 M4LE lower receiver need to be deregestered as an SBR before it can be sold to a Class I FFL holder?

Posted: 5/31/2010 6:34:29 AM EDT

[#1]

Do these lowers use standard fire control group pins?

Posted: 5/31/2010 7:12:39 AM EDT

[#2]

Depends on when they were made. Recent manufacturer (Late 2009 or 2010) then yes. Older manufacture then no. I bought one from Clyde very recently but it was 2007 manufacture and had .170 pins. Doesn't really matter to me as the two best FCG in my opinion (Colt and Geissele) are both available in .170 and .154.

Posted: 5/30/2010 11:54:38 AM EDT

[#3]

Type 1 - Class 1 is a SOT designation for an importer of NFA firearms, not a type of dealer license.

You can sell the SBR to anyone, but it requires the $200 transfer tax and an approved Form 4.

To sell it without a tax stamp and Form 4, you'd have to remove it from the registry first.

Posted: 5/30/2010 12:03:37 PM EDT

[#4]

They don't remove the lower from the registry. They just update the registery to reclassify it saying it is no longer a sbr.

Posted: 5/30/2010 12:37:41 PM EDT

[#5]

Great! Thanks for the help.

Posted: 5/30/2010 7:38:03 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
They don't remove the lower from the registry. They just update the registery to reclassify it saying it is no longer a sbr.

So, is this wrong, because I bought one?

Colt 6921 Lower

Posted: 5/30/2010 7:41:20 PM EDT

[#7]

Here is another one using the term "de-registered."

Colt 6921 Lower

Posted: 5/30/2010 8:28:49 PM EDT

[#8]

$995 for just a complete lower...

Posted: 5/30/2010 9:27:16 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
They don't remove the lower from the registry. They just update the registery to reclassify it saying it is no longer a sbr.

So, is this wrong, because I bought one?

Colt 6921 Lower

Its right. Its "de-registered" as an SBR into a normal rifle. Or registered as "other' since its lower?

Posted: 5/30/2010 10:08:58 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
$995 for just a complete lower...

And then again for the upper. Might as well buy KAC.

Posted: 5/31/2010 3:09:51 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Here is another one using the term "de-registered."

Colt 6921 Lower

Would you pass up a real bargain on a really good rifle because the seller offered it with "10 clips?" instead of "10 magazines"? The process noted above, where the NFA database is updated to reflect that the rifle can no longer legally have a barrel of less than 16" is correct, whether someone uses the term "de-registered" or not. The item is still in the database (and thus "registered") but it is not considered an NFA item and can be sold without the $200 transfer tax.

Posted: 5/31/2010 10:38:06 AM EDT

[#12]

There was a slightly used complete 6921 on gunbroker that sold for $850 not too long ago.

Posted: 6/1/2010 12:22:27 PM EDT

[#13]

I just purchased one for $580.00!

Posted: 6/1/2010 1:22:03 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Does the Colt 6921 M4LE lower receiver need to be deregestered as an SBR before it can be sold to a Class I FFL holder?

no, if it is being sold without an upper then it can be treated as a title 1 item.

Posted: 6/1/2010 1:27:14 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
I just purchased one for $580.00!

Lower or complete rifle??

Posted: 6/1/2010 1:37:13 PM EDT

[#16]

Dan-P just posted this new thread containing a hyperlink to the ATF's new FAQ concerning National Firearms Act (NFA) — Short Barreled Rifles and Shotguns

Posted: 6/1/2010 3:06:36 PM EDT

[#17]

Just the lower assembly.

Posted: 6/1/2010 3:22:15 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I just purchased one for $580.00!

Lower or complete rifle??

Just the lower assembly.

Posted: 6/2/2010 4:20:25 AM EDT

[#19]

Here's an interesting non-SBR 6921 for sale over on STURM ...........

www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4sale.cgi?read=229847

WTS––Colt 6921 M4LE NON-SBR $1675

By:W. Roberts Delhi OH <[email protected]> (74.215.238.125)
Date: 6/1/10 14:23

I have an excellent plus condition Colt factory marked M4LE carbine. It is all colt except for the Denny's Guns extended A2 flash hider which has been permanently attached (by ADCO in Ohio) to bring the M4 14.5" barrel out to 16.1" in length. Barrel marked 1/7 twist. ALL COLT. Rifle shipped as shown with Surefire light and Knights Armament RAS $1675. In original configuration with Colt ocal M4 handguards $1425. Prices are shipped to your FFL in the first 48 states, please see pics.

http://i45.tinypic.com/14aiws5.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/spzwon.jpg

Posted: 6/2/2010 7:59:26 PM EDT

[#20]

Is there a reason they're doing this with 6921's and not 6933's?

Posted: 6/3/2010 2:50:14 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Is there a reason they're doing this with 6921's and not 6933's?

Dealers break up guns when they either have more complete guns than they can sell, or when the revenue from the individual parts is more than they can get for a complete gun.

Both Colt, and the distributors, occasionally get excess inventory, and move it at lower-than-usual prices. Colt produces more 14.5" uppers than 11.5" uppers, so when they want to move inventory fast, they build up 6921s, not 6933s.

I suspect another contributing cause is that since the HB version was developed, demand for regular-profile 14.5" uppers –– and thus for 6921s –– has dropped, leaving someone (Colt or distributors) holding a bunch of them.

Idle thoughts ...

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Colt M4LE Lower question

Armory » General NFA Questions

Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.

Warning

Confirm Action

About AR15.COM

Stay Connected

Newsletter

Contact Us