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Cobalt Kinetics - Prototype Suppressor (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/9/2026 8:52:19 PM EDT
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Just curious did anyone see the Cobalt Kinetics prototype suppressor "offer" through Modern Warriors? I tried to do some research and it seems that their Scrambler model has limited but good reviews so I am interested. I'm probably going to sign up and try it out - I was in the market for another dedicated 5.56 so this potentially works in my favor... https://modernwarriors.com/cobalt-prototype |
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Originally Posted By CJofFL: I signed up, but here’s the extent of the info they provided and it’s not enough for me. COBALT KINETICS PROTO-X INCONEL (5.56MM) SUPPRESSOR $480.00 CALIBER 5.56mm DIAMETER 1.5" LENGTH 4.9" WEIGHT 9.80z THREADS 1.375x24 MATERIAL Inconel 718 COLOR Black or FDE Yeah pretty limited info for sure. There's a very short Reddit thread but not really more info yet from folks who are signing up. I did find out no adapter or mount is included (seems to be more common from researching other suppressors just something to keep in mind). |
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Originally Posted By AndrewKing: Please pay for our product development on your dime and be a test dummy lol You could also end up with a turd on the end of your rifle though. |
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For what it’s worth (which is extremely little) I *really* wanted to try the cobalt scrambler, but I didn’t like that the only mount options were DT or the LH spooky type muzzle devices (which at the time were having some hacking off problems). I decided to check into the company to make sure they’d cover me if the LH mounts weren’t working. I did about as deep of a dive as I could into their customer service, and only found somewhat negative or lackluster experiences, so ultimately I decided not to risk it with that company. Suppressors take too much of a headache to get stuck with an improperly functioning product. |
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Originally Posted By dblazevich: For what it’s worth (which is extremely little) I *really* wanted to try the cobalt scrambler, but I didn’t like that the only mount options were DT or the LH spooky type muzzle devices (which at the time were having some hacking off problems). I decided to check into the company to make sure they’d cover me if the LH mounts weren’t working. I did about as deep of a dive as I could into their customer service, and only found somewhat negative or lackluster experiences, so ultimately I decided not to risk it with that company. Suppressors take too much of a headache to get stuck with an improperly functioning product. Valid concerns. The paperwork still sucks but at least the stamp is free now. I haven't tried to dig into ownership but with the St George Utah locations and MW requesting feedback I wonder if they have an ownership stake in Cobalt? It's definitely a gamble. |
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i thought cobalt was moving. i guess not. we have a scambler on a MP7 at work here. its cool. not sure id buy it for 5.56 tho, better options out there. i do find it funny the way they are going about this. pay to T&E their unreleased shit. just send it someone who will actually give you feedback like juicey media. i hope they actually vet people who have expirience with a wide variety of cans. ive seen a cutaway of a scrambler, its not complicated. |
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Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy: i thought cobalt was moving. i guess not. we have a scambler on a MP7 at work here. its cool. not sure id buy it for 5.56 tho, better options out there. i do find it funny the way they are going about this. pay to T&E their unreleased shit. just send it someone who will actually give you feedback like juicey media. i hope they actually vet people who have expirience with a wide variety of cans. ive seen a cutaway of a scrambler, its not complicated. I signed up, we’ll see what happens. |
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: You also get 50% off the final version. I think I missed that, that makes this a much better deal in my mind. Assuming they’re doing something 3D printed $1k+, you’re basically paying for 1x, getting 2x, and getting to provide some input on what you want the second one to be |
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Originally Posted By dblazevich: I think I missed that, that makes this a much better deal in my mind. Assuming they’re doing something 3D printed $1k+, you’re basically paying for 1x, getting 2x, and getting to provide some input on what you want the second one to be Yes, that is key IMO and sorry for not calling it out in the OP. I haven't seen an estimate for final release date though but final outcome *should* be ~$1k for 2. I went ahead and signed up. |
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Originally Posted By cdholmes: Took a gamble, signed up and ordered the proto can today. We'll see what comes of it, but I will say the rep from Modern Warriors was great. Shout out to Rob. Mine is ordered as well, just waiting to hear back for paperwork (being transferred through MW). |
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Originally Posted By cowboyarcher: I signed up last week and have an appointment at MW to do the paperwork Tuesday. Will try to snag some photos. . . Awesome! I haven't heard anything yet for paperwork. I've bought a couple suppressors through MW previously since they opened the TN locations and they had a good process for the others. |
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Went ahead and ordered one as well. Below is the .pdf they sent Attached File |
Stolen Firearm: Colt AR15, Serial # SP342380, 16" carbine. Stolen in California by Kevin Ayres, and taken to Missouri.
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Edit: got shipping info earlier....for early next week. And as my luck has it it'll arrived and get added to our A&D "book"while I'm some 4k miles away for a bit ... Mine shows shipping from their UT facility, for some reason I thought I read?/saw? this was from TN. End edit Looking at the last couple of posts are they available/shipping? Did everybody else get a timeline for when they are shipping out? I don't recall seeing anything in my emails with them, and my account on MW shows it under in-store purchases with delivery fee but no tracking info or anything like that I can find. It'll be my luck that it arrives while I'm away. |
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Originally Posted By cdholmes: For those that have received shipping info, how did it come in? I thought I created a MW account over the phone, but I think it was just for their invoice program, not the actual website. Same. I haven't received shipping info yet. Probably still waiting on the form 3 |
Stolen Firearm: Colt AR15, Serial # SP342380, 16" carbine. Stolen in California by Kevin Ayres, and taken to Missouri.
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Stopped by MW on Tuesday to submit the forms. Here are a photos I snapped: Proto X |
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Originally Posted By cowboyarcher: Stopped by MW on Tuesday to submit the forms. Here are a photos I snapped: Proto X Interesting that the markings are up towards the front vs towards the rear. |
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Originally Posted By cdholmes:Interesting that the markings are up towards the front vs towards the rear. Edited. |
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Originally Posted By CJofFL: Considering additive suppressors aren’t repairable maybe it no longer matters if the markings are on the damage prone end? Who told you that? I dont know a single 3d printed can manufacturer that wont try to repair a can, either by cutting off the damaged end and grafting a new one on, or indicating it in a printer and printing the rest(which is admittedly very hard, but i have seen it offered). |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish:I dont know a single 3d printed can manufacturer that wont try to repair a can, either by cutting off the damaged end and grafting a new one on, or indicating it in a printer and printing the rest(which is admittedly very hard, but i have seen it offered). @Green0 care to comment on this? |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: Who told you that? I dont know a single 3d printed can manufacturer that wont try to repair a can, either by cutting off the damaged end and grafting a new one on, or indicating it in a printer and printing the rest(which is admittedly very hard, but i have seen it offered). 3d printed suppressor companies are absolutely not repairing any of their fully 3d printed models. They are sending users new cans with new serials that go in for warranty work. |
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: 3d printed suppressor companies are absolutely not repairing any of their fully 3d printed models. They are sending users new cans with new serials that go in for warranty work. Ask @andrewking In the infinity 556k meltdown, he explained exactly how he would repair it and send it back to them. Don't take your assumptions as fact. Now that tax stamps are $0, I think more companies will lean towards replacement. But many are "absolutely" repairable |
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Originally Posted By CJofFL: Apologies if I’m mistaken and if I am, I’ll gladly edit my previous post. How would they weld the internal structures of a 3D printed can? As far as printing the balance of a chopped existing 3D can, can you provide any examples? For that matter, can you provide any examples of repaired 3D cans? Lastly, why would a manufacturer even try to repair one considering the liability, the difficulty, and the significantly greater expense versus replacing it? @Green0 care to comment on this? We have mounting systems on a lot of the cans where the serial is on the mount, and fixtures allowing the can to be machined off the mount, and we can weld a new printed forward section on a rear section, allowing repairs to happen. I’m sure there are companies also replacing cans, although thats not supposed to be ok per current regs. The whole we’ll bore out the core of a printed can statement is bs imo. With what? Try sending a drill into interrupted inconel- I don’t see good things happening. Besides that would leave you with a strange different design where nothing was connected to the tube. |
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Originally Posted By Green0:We have mounting systems on a lot of the cans where the serial is on the mount, and fixtures allowing the can to be machined off the mount, and we can weld a new printed forward section on a rear section, allowing repairs to happen. Hopefully, OCL chimes in as well. |
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Originally Posted By CJofFL: Thanks for your input. I probably should have been more specific in reference to repairing a monolithic 3d printed can as is the subject of this thread and the Cobalt prototype having the serial at the more damage prone front end. Hopefully, OCL chimes in as well. Some cans are designed with a point in the blast chamber that is a standard repair/weld area. Kinda like griffin's mounts. I know one head engineer/owner near me explained how they have a certain spot that they would cut the can at and weld on the new "stack" as to not degrade performance and durability. Since andrew hasn't chimed in yet. Here is him describing a similar design at the 7:35 mark  Otter Creek Labs Infinity 556K Suppressor Meltdown Many 3d printed can companies plan for warranty work. And before this year, the main idea was to repair instead of replace. Its still easier on the customer to repair it, so many still take that into consideration. Its absolutely does happen. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: The whole we’ll bore out the core of a printed can statement is bs imo. With what? Try sending a drill into interrupted inconel- I don’t see good things happening. Besides that would leave you with a strange different design where nothing was connected to the tube. Who said that? |
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Originally Posted By SGT-Fish: Who said that? Huxwrx told us this when they first released their 556k. That being said. Ive never seen a repaired hux come back into the shop. Always a new one. A lot easier to issue a new one to the customer with the fast approvals and the zero stamp. |
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Originally Posted By CJofFL: Considering additive suppressors aren’t repairable maybe it no longer matters if the markings are on the damage prone end? This blanket statement is simply not true. The velos can be repaired. Cans with the energetic armament ring can be repaired. Replace the core and put the original serial ring on. Precision armament also does the ring. |
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Originally Posted By cdholmes: Interesting that the markings are up towards the front vs towards the rear. This is a "prototype" can. IMO, who cares? Maybe the final design will have that serial location, maybe not. I think theyre more worried about tracking performance at this point than serial location. Surefire still puts their serial on the muzzle end of their RC4. We have one of these the shop on a transfer. If I remember ill take a pic of the blast baffle. It reminds me of a certain body part/anatomy. |
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Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy:Huxwrx told us this when they first released their 556k. Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy:Huxwrx told us this when they first released their 556k. Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy:That being said. Ive never seen a repaired hux come back into the shop. Always a new one. A lot easier to issue a new one to the customer with the fast approvals and the zero stamp. @SGT-Fish Thanks for that. I've edited the question in my previous post for clarity. |
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Originally Posted By Mesooohoppy: This is a "prototype" can. IMO, who cares? Maybe the final design will have that serial location, maybe not. I think theyre more worried about tracking performance at this point than serial location. Surefire still puts their serial on the muzzle end of their RC4. We have one of these the shop on a transfer. If I remember ill take a pic of the blast baffle. It reminds me of a certain body part/anatomy. The RC4 was recently described as 3d printed. I think some components are 3D printed- front cap- maybe rear housing? Forward flash suppressor. The can obviously has a tube. The baffles are probably stamped- they are shiny and smooth not a printed surface finish. Things Surefire makes are typically designed for mass production. On printers mass production scales into 10-20 million dollars of printers fairly quickly. Progressive stamping apparently still has an edge in speed and cost of production. That shouldn’t be remarkable as progressive stamping can make volumes like 86,400 parts a day, stamping parts at a rate of one complete part per second. The tradeoff is more welding time, but laser welders can weld perhaps 20 cans an hour, which would imply scaling laser welding would be the challenge to meet stamping volumes, if needed, of course the stamping in one day might be surefire sales for 6 months or even one year on that model or something like that, which would ease the requirements to scale welding. |
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Just certified mine and took a few pics. No scale or tape measure, but it was light. About 2" to that first baffle (measured via pinky finger). Doesn't appear to have any flow through properties, but wtf do I know. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
Stolen Firearm: Colt AR15, Serial # SP342380, 16" carbine. Stolen in California by Kevin Ayres, and taken to Missouri.
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Originally Posted By HK94dude: Just certified mine and took a few pics. No scale or tape measure, but it was light. About 2" to that first baffle (measured via pinky finger). Doesn't appear to have any flow through properties, but wtf do I know. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_1051_jpeg-3785932.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_1052_jpeg-3785933.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_1053_jpeg-3785934.JPG The blast baffle looks reminiscent of the blast baffle in Gemtech cans like the M496D that were similar to the early AAC M4-2000. It looks like a conventional style suppressor that has been 3D printed to achieve something like lighter weight, or faster cooling at high temperature. The De-laval nozzle looking thing would likely accelerate gas into the blast baffle, so that's an interesting design objective as it would seem to promote wear (theoretically). The muzzle is another diverging nozzle, like a Surefire RC2, so it probably has pretty high velocity muzzle exhaust gas, and I would imagine is louder up front than average. Maybe that's a flash reduction over sound reduction strategy for the small can. Bore axis injecting hypersonic gas forward. |
Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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Originally Posted By Green0: The blast baffle looks reminiscent of the blast baffle in Gemtech cans like the M496D that were similar to the early AAC M4-2000. It looks like a conventional style suppressor that has been 3D printed to achieve something like lighter weight, or faster cooling at high temperature. The De-laval nozzle looking thing would likely accelerate gas into the blast baffle, so that's an interesting design objective as it would seem to promote wear (theoretically). The muzzle is another diverging nozzle, like a Surefire RC2, so it probably has pretty high velocity muzzle exhaust gas, and I would imagine is louder up front than average. Maybe that's a flash reduction over sound reduction strategy for the small can. Bore axis injecting hypersonic gas forward. That's a lot of big words  I like the size and weight, but I'm realistic about the performance. With such a large blast chamber, I'll keep it short with a Griffin taper mount and try multiple brakes/flash hiders and barrel lengths. Worse case, I throw it on a 14.5" to live out it's days |
Stolen Firearm: Colt AR15, Serial # SP342380, 16" carbine. Stolen in California by Kevin Ayres, and taken to Missouri.
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Originally Posted By HK94dude: That's a lot of big words I like the size and weight, but I'm realistic about the performance. With such a large blast chamber, I'll keep it short with a Griffin taper mount and try multiple brakes/flash hiders and barrel lengths. Worse case, I throw it on a 14.5" to live out it's days If you shoot it let us know your thoughts on it and whatever you have to compare it to. |
Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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I have a AEM5 on a 15.1 currently, and the DD SG556 available from work that I can can do comparisons with those tomorrow at work while can is still in hopefully abbreviated jail. Longer time frame I can compare it to some of the fans coworkers have on duty rifles. |
Cobalt Kinetics - Prototype Suppressor (Page 1 of 2)
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