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Belgian FN FAL Kits (Page 3 of 3)
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Just got a notification that the DSA receivers are available for order: https://www.dsarms.com/p-17494-dsa-sa58-special-gendarmerie-marked-stripped-semi-auto-fal-receiver-type-3-carry-handle-cut-762x51-mm.aspx |
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Originally Posted By Janus: Just got a notification that the DSA receivers are available for order: https://www.dsarms.com/p-17494-dsa-sa58-special-gendarmerie-marked-stripped-semi-auto-fal-receiver-type-3-carry-handle-cut-762x51-mm.aspx The first round of barrels for these kits will be available the beginning of March |
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Originally Posted By GI_Brat: Getting closer. Just received this from DSA today. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230220_175542607-2718360.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230220_175558431-2718359.jpg Sweet! Can you post closer pics of the markings? You going to build yourself or send to DSA? |
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Originally Posted By GI_Brat: Getting closer. Just received this from DSA today. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230220_175542607-2718360.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230220_175558431-2718359.jpg Looks great, keep us updated! |
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From ARS, “DSA barrels are not compatible with FN gas blocks as DSA are out of spec small. But if you're ok with the dsa gas block and short tube, it's not an issue.” I was hoping to find some direction on what he thought of the kits. Where to source the additional parts, is it going to be worth a million bucks, re park/black etc. I got none of that. Pretty short responses, I’m sure he is busy and like every good gunsmith I’ve ever worked with…aloof. He’s still going to do the work but does anyone have any thoughts here. 18” vs 21” barrel length, what parts do I actually need in addition. |
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Originally Posted By pilotferhire: From ARS, “DSA barrels are not compatible with FN gas blocks as DSA are out of spec small. But if you're ok with the dsa gas block and short tube, it's not an issue.” I was hoping to find some direction on what he thought of the kits. Where to source the additional parts, is it going to be worth a million bucks, re park/black etc. I got none of that. Pretty short responses, I’m sure he is busy and like every good gunsmith I’ve ever worked with…aloof. He’s still going to do the work but does anyone have any thoughts here. 18” vs 21” barrel length, what parts do I actually need in addition. I think these barrels are being made specifically for this kit so there shouldn't be a fitment issue. The parts you still need are the receiver, barrel, selector, piston rod, and (probably) locking shoulder. You won't know which locking shoulder until it's built and gauged. DSA has all of that, though the barrels aren't for sale just yet. It should be in the next week or two. Edit: also need a belgian-style combo device. |
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Originally Posted By YaBoyKGTho: I think these barrels are being made specifically for this kit so there shouldn't be a fitment issue. The parts you still need are the receiver, barrel, selector, piston rod, and (probably) locking shoulder. You won't know which locking shoulder until it's built and gauged. DSA has all of that, though the barrels aren't for sale just yet. It should be in the next week or two. I think they are also missing the combo device. |
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Originally Posted By pilotferhire: From ARS, “DSA barrels are not compatible with FN gas blocks as DSA are out of spec small. But if you're ok with the dsa gas block and short tube, it's not an issue.” I was hoping to find some direction on what he thought of the kits. Where to source the additional parts, is it going to be worth a million bucks, re park/black etc. I got none of that. Pretty short responses, I’m sure he is busy and like every good gunsmith I’ve ever worked with…aloof. He’s still going to do the work but does anyone have any thoughts here. 18” vs 21” barrel length, what parts do I actually need in addition. This is false the barrels we offer for these FN kits without gas block installed are oversized. IMO he is thinking about this like the Israeli kits. The Israeli gas blocks were on the outside of spec and fit very loose, way looser than these Fn blocks. The Israeli barrels we offer are even bigger than the ones we offer for these Fn kits. The very first Israeli barrels with undersized for the Israeli gas blocks and that was changed after the first month of production. BTW we sell every single part for the standard FAL and standard para FAL. |
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Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL: This is false the barrels we offer for these FN kits without gas block installed are oversized. IMO he is thinking about this like the Israeli kits. The Israeli gas blocks were on the outside of spec and fit very loose, way looser than these Fn blocks. The Israeli barrels we offer are even bigger than the ones we offer for these Fn kits. The very first Israeli barrels with undersized for the Israeli gas blocks and that was changed after the first month of production. BTW we sell every single part for the standard FAL and standard para FAL. I purchased 2 of your barrel and they were awesome. !! Great product and highly recommended!! |
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Originally Posted By YaBoyKGTho: Any update on the barrels? Also will there be a restock of the receivers? I planned to buy when they were both in stock. We have a few types of receivers in stock you don’t have to use any certain one some people want the type 3 but many people are ordering type 1. Barrels are due back from chrome any day. Once they are back we just have to blast and park and we do that in house. |
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Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL: We have a few types of receivers in stock you don’t have to use any certain one some people want the type 3 but many people are ordering type 1. Barrels are due back from chrome any day. Once they are back we just have to blast and park and we do that in house. Thanks! So no plan for a reup of the gendarmerie receivers? |
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Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL: We have a few types of receivers in stock you don’t have to use any certain one some people want the type 3 but many people are ordering type 1. Barrels are due back from chrome any day. Once they are back we just have to blast and park and we do that in house. I just received my type 2 Thursday. Ty |
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Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL: This is false the barrels we offer for these FN kits without gas block installed are oversized. IMO he is thinking about this like the Israeli kits. The Israeli gas blocks were on the outside of spec and fit very loose, way looser than these Fn blocks. The Israeli barrels we offer are even bigger than the ones we offer for these Fn kits. The very first Israeli barrels with undersized for the Israeli gas blocks and that was changed after the first month of production. BTW we sell every single part for the standard FAL and standard para FAL. I can confirm that the Israeli gas blocks fit very tight on DSA’s newer Israeli barrels. ARS even pinned it for me. |
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Originally Posted By YaBoyKGTho: Thanks! So no plan for a reup of the gendarmerie receivers? Receivers are up and available on their website. https://www.dsarms.com/p-17494-dsa-sa58-special-gendarmerie-marked-stripped-semi-auto-fal-receiver-type-3-carry-handle-cut-762-mm.aspx |
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Originally Posted By Janus: @YaBoyKGTho Receivers are up and available on their website. https://www.dsarms.com/p-17494-dsa-sa58-special-gendarmerie-marked-stripped-semi-auto-fal-receiver-type-3-carry-handle-cut-762-mm.aspx Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By YaBoyKGTho: Barrels are up  My kit is already up at DSA awaiting assembly. I was just waiting for the barrels to arrive. |
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Got my new DSA barrel in, along with the spare parts kit. Ready to start building. One point of annoyance, though- did DSA throw in the polymer mags just to get them out of their shop? It doesn't even lock in my DSA receiver without having to hammer it. I get that it's part of 922(r), but I'm mad that I paid an extra $20 for something that is either going to take up space or go in the trash. |
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Originally Posted By BuddyChryst: I find it rude that y’all keep this thread going, while those of us that didn’t win have to be repeatedly reminded that we didn’t! I am happy to see you’re building them and not just sitting on them though! I haven't seen any in the 300's yet. I think there are more out there that haven't been released yet. |
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Originally Posted By Xanatos903: Got my new DSA barrel in, along with the spare parts kit. Ready to start building. One point of annoyance, though- did DSA throw in the polymer mags just to get them out of their shop? It doesn't even lock in my DSA receiver without having to hammer it. I get that it's part of 922(r), but I'm mad that I paid an extra $20 for something that is either going to take up space or go in the trash. As per our website polymer mags should be fit for optimal fit and function with your individual receiver/rifle. Why you may ask? the optimal fit will make for a very long lasting mag. If we made them looser they just would wear out even faster the the FAL mag moves around a lot during. Plus the FAL mag catch design really wears on the mag rear catch more that most all other designs and using polymer for the material means you really need to start out tighter. |
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Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL: As per our website polymer mags should be fit for optimal fit and function with your individual receiver/rifle. Why you may ask? the optimal fit will make for a very long lasting mag. If we made them looser they just would wear out even faster the the FAL mag moves around a lot during. Plus the FAL mag catch design really wears on the mag rear catch more that most all other designs and using polymer for the material means you really need to start out tighter. @DSArms_FAL Please get your metal magazines back into production!! |
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Originally Posted By marcus5819: @DSArms_FAL Please get your metal magazines back into production!! Originally Posted By marcus5819: Originally Posted By DSArms_FAL: As per our website polymer mags should be fit for optimal fit and function with your individual receiver/rifle. Why you may ask? the optimal fit will make for a very long lasting mag. If we made them looser they just would wear out even faster the the FAL mag moves around a lot during. Plus the FAL mag catch design really wears on the mag rear catch more that most all other designs and using polymer for the material means you really need to start out tighter. @DSArms_FAL Please get your metal magazines back into production!! And SCAR mags!!! |
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Originally Posted By GI_Brat: Back from DSA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230412_233333597-2780240.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230412_233422736_3-2780243.jpg That looks nice! How long did it take from when you sent in the receiver and parts? Do you need to send in the the complete kit or just all the upper parts? Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By RadioHack: That looks nice! How long did it take from when you sent in the receiver and parts? Do you need to send in the the complete kit or just all the upper parts? Thanks! Thanks! It took about six weeks from me shipping it off to receiving it back. You'll have to send your whole kit to them. |
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Originally Posted By GI_Brat: Back from DSA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230412_233333597-2780240.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230412_233422736_3-2780243.jpg Peanutbutter and jealous. Waiting to get mine back from my builder. |
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Originally Posted By RadioHack: So, you buy the receiver, receive it, pack it with the kit and send it off to them with 922r parts? Yes. I also ordered/received the missing parts (magazine, piston, safety selector & flash hider) before sending everything to DSA. |
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Originally Posted By GI_Brat: Back from DSA https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230412_233333597-2780240.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/4382/PXL_20230412_233422736_3-2780243.jpg Excellent!! Can you post pic of the sticker on the stock, or any other interesting markings on the Belgian parts? |
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Originally Posted By dalyman72: Excellent!! Can you post pic of the sticker on the stock, or any other interesting markings on the Belgian parts?  Not sure if it's 21CC & 2 P1. Maybe someone can explain what they mean |
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Originally Posted By SaturationTech: What did DSA charge to build it for you? $514.95, which included the purchase of a 21" Barrel, Assembly, Labor and return shipping. I had already purchased the upper and Spare parts kit from DSA before sending everything in. |
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Originally Posted By GI_Brat: $514.95, which included the purchase of a 21" Barrel, Assembly, Labor and return shipping. I had already purchased the upper and Spare parts kit from DSA before sending everything in. Thank you. I’ve got all the parts in hand, so looks like around $300 for the assembly. |
Ian's: Belgian Gendarmerie FAL w/ DSA Receiver |
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Got mine built. Still kinda wish it was a type 2, but I'm happy with it! Attached File |
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Digging up an old thread, I'm going to finally build out my kit! @DSArms_FAL , any idea when the traditional 21-in barrels will be back in stock? I will be ordering immediately after, and I'm pretty sure a few of my friends that have been sitting on their kits will as well. |
Belgian FN FAL Kits (Page 3 of 3)
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