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1/11/2012 1:24:57 PM EDT
I`m thinkin about this for my M1A. Anybody have one? Good? Bad? Ugly?
1/11/2012 1:46:21 PM EDT
[#1]
I bought the ART M1000 for my 6.8. I really like it. I haven't shot out too far yet so I can't comment on the ability of the cam to be precise, plus I have a caliber that isn't listed, so I have to figure mine according to ballistics. I can tell you that with it on the setting I have it on, it is exactly right at the 100 yard mark.

The glass isn't bad at all either. I very impressed with it as well. It's as good as a friends older VX II, but not as good as my Elite 6500 was . The ranging ability is good as well. It's easy to get within 10 yards or so of your target with it and it's much quicker than a rangefinder, or a mil dot and any math that comes with that, even using the Mil Dot Master which I have. You can use it as a standard Mil Dot scope as well.

One other thing I like, is that the turrets are set up in a way that you can have three different zeroes for three different loads if you want, or even three different guns. The adjustments on mine are very crisp and repeatable. They are accurate as well, and I did the box test with it. Any adjustments I made were dead on. Now that deer hunting season is over, I plan to get it out to the 400 yard mark soon, and maybe in a few more months I will get out to the farm and the 750 yard field.

It is heavy, but it is very solid. I would however, recommend you to go with the M1200 if you can swing it. I couldn't afford to at the time, but I wish now I would have. I love the scope so far.
1/11/2012 1:54:35 PM EDT
[#2]
What`s the difference between the M1000 and the M1200?
1/11/2012 2:03:46 PM EDT
[#3]
The M1200 has more magnification. The M1000 is a 2.5X10 scope, whereas the M1200 is a 6X24. Also, the M1000 is calibrated out to 1000 yards and is zeroed at 250 meters/273 yards, and the M1200 is calibrated out to 1200 yards, and I think it is zeroed at 300 meters.
1/11/2012 2:15:13 PM EDT
[#4]
Wow! Ok the most I`m doing is 2 maybe 300 yards..... I`ll stick with the M1000.
What kind of mount do I need for my M1A?
1/11/2012 3:10:50 PM EDT
[#5]
The scope itself comes on a mount that has the rangefinding cam as part of it. If you mean for the rifle, I honestly don't know what to recommend currently. I had good luck with a Springfield mount. Many people didn't though. Sadlak is probably the best but it's real expensive. Basset machine makes a good one. ARMS and Smith Enterprises are good too. One thing, don't cheap out on a M1A mount.
1/11/2012 6:38:00 PM EDT
[#6]
You need to check with Hi Lux to be sure, but as I remember you need at least 7 inches of rail to mount the M1000
1/11/2012 6:50:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
You need to check with Hi Lux to be sure, but as I remember you need at least 7 inches of rail to mount the M1000


That is quite possible. Mine is on an AR. I would call them and ask. They are very helpful.
1/12/2012 12:53:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Looking at a lot of the mounts, a lot require removal of the stripper clip guide. Now I rarely use it (ok once or twice in 15 years) but I didn`t want to remove it if I don`t have to.

Is the rails that much better when they lock into that part of the receiver?

What else is out there?
1/12/2012 12:56:06 PM EDT
[#9]
I assume you are asking about the "new" models.

I have one of the actual ART2 scopes and have used the ART1 in the past if that is what you are asking about.
1/12/2012 12:59:16 PM EDT
[#10]
Yeah I was but I wouldn`t mind checking out the old ones too
1/12/2012 1:20:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Yeah I was but I wouldn`t mind checking out the old ones too


They are the "historic" choice if you want to build an M21 (clone). The art2 has a better mounting system than the ART1 but I like the ART1 reticle better. Either way they tend to go for way more than the current made in china leatherwoods, IIRC ~1500+ on ebay last I checked.
1/13/2012 3:25:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I assume you are asking about the "new" models.

I have one of the actual ART2 scopes and have used the ART1 in the past if that is what you are asking about.


ART 1
M1A,
converted to NFA in 86, but built to 1967 NM specs


1/13/2012 3:29:03 PM EDT
[#13]
What kind of rail is that?
1/13/2012 3:30:18 PM EDT
[#14]
What kind of rail is that?
1/13/2012 5:23:17 PM EDT
[#15]
no rail, factory art mount
1/14/2012 10:50:24 AM EDT
[#16]
Beautiful unit ric. How are the lugs on your mount and will it stay tight during shooting? I have had three of these orig. ART 1 set ups and man those lugs on the mount were something to take care of. Show some pics. of your green can as this is the hard part to find also the stainless socket heads in rings as they were often replaced. I say again beautiful and super rare set up.
1/14/2012 5:50:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Beautiful unit ric. How are the lugs on your mount and will it stay tight during shooting? I have had three of these orig. ART 1 set ups and man those lugs on the mount were something to take care of. Show some pics. of your green can as this is the hard part to find also the stainless socket heads in rings as they were often replaced. I say again beautiful and super rare set up.



Thanks, give me a couple and i'll post some more pics
All original never molested and original cam and can


lugs are fine, I use a fiber washer under the screw to help it stay tight, works like a charm,

pics,




scope has some dirt inside, but it's not noticeable when shooting, not to bad for a unit 40+ years old
stainless screws are in place, but some habe been painted over (still can see the stainless screw on the bottom of the rings,)


1/19/2012 8:47:47 AM EDT
[#18]
pics up
1/19/2012 1:38:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Nice OG ART... I like my ART2, but prefer the reticle on the original...
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