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11/4/2023 10:05:50 AM EDT

I have heard about these mounts but cannot find much information on them or many pictures of rifles with the mounts on them. I think the 90 degree mount is an interesting idea and had the idea to mount one on the left side of my rifle (I am right handed) so that I could just drop my line of sight to use the offset aimpoint.

The issue is that I cannot tell if the optic will interfere with the top rail of the hand guard if I put the mount on the left side. It seems like the battery compartment of a T2 would hit the top rail, but a comp M5 may be OK sue to the higher position of the battery compartment on the right side.

Would anyone be able to offer advice based on their experience with this mount? I would also appreciate any pictures anyone has on the mount on a gun (left or right side). Here is a link to the mount on the KAC website just in case it is unclear exactly what I am talking about (I just want the mount and do not care for the double battery cap):

https://www.knightarmco.com/12881/shop/sighting/optic-mounts/reddot/aimpoint-micro-offset-rail-mount
11/4/2023 12:20:43 PM EDT
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Couldn't you just mount it to the top rail w/ the illum dial at 12 o'clock? Or would that push it too far out from the gun? I've never used one, just looking at a pic of one and that's what my brain is telling me.
11/4/2023 1:32:20 PM EDT
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Couldn't you just mount it to the top rail w/ the illum dial at 12 o'clock? Or would that push it too far out from the gun? I've never used one, just looking at a pic of one and that's what my brain is telling me.
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I never really considered that but it would definitely be possible. The only complication is that the original windage adjustment would become the new elevation adjustment and vice versa but it’s not that big of a deal.

I really don’t understand why rigging a rifle up like this with a red dot offset to the left isn’t more popular.
11/4/2023 2:29:34 PM EDT
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An offset on the left can get cumbersome if you sling her up front.
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11/4/2023 7:32:33 PM EDT
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I have heard about these mounts but cannot find much information on them or many pictures of rifles with the mounts on them. I think the 90 degree mount is an interesting idea and had the idea to mount one on the left side of my rifle (I am right handed) so that I could just drop my line of sight to use the offset aimpoint.

The issue is that I cannot tell if the optic will interfere with the top rail of the hand guard if I put the mount on the left side. It seems like the battery compartment of a T2 would hit the top rail, but a comp M5 may be OK sue to the higher position of the battery compartment on the right side.

Would anyone be able to offer advice based on their experience with this mount? I would also appreciate any pictures anyone has on the mount on a gun (left or right side). Here is a link to the mount on the KAC website just in case it is unclear exactly what I am talking about (I just want the mount and do not care for the double battery cap):

https://www.knightarmco.com/12881/shop/sighting/optic-mounts/reddot/aimpoint-micro-offset-rail-mount
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I have a NIB one offhand with a spare T-1 sitting around. If I get time tomorrow, I will set it up similar to how you describe and upload a picture or two.
11/4/2023 7:52:50 PM EDT
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I have a NIB one offhand with a spare T-1 sitting around. If I get time tomorrow, I will set it up similar to how you describe and upload a picture or two.
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Those pictures would be exactly what I am looking for - thank you!

Any reason why you never used the mount? If you could offer your opinion on it (compared to other offset mounts) I'd greatly appreciate it.
11/4/2023 10:40:34 PM EDT
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I would be interested in seeing this set up myself. I have 45 deg offset mounts and like that for certain applications.
11/10/2023 6:28:56 AM EDT
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I ended up finding one of these mounts for sale and bought it. It was expensive, but it seems that this part is the only offset micro mount on the market that mounts the optic “vertically” such that the windage/elevation are not canted relative to the main optic.

I will post an in-depth review of the part as well as how it works mounting an Aimpoint Comp M5 on the left side of a rifle - I really don’t think anyone has discussed this before.

This setup would have the following advantages:

    - It does not have the height over bore issue of mounting a red dot on top of the optic.

    - It should set the optic pretty compactly between the left and top Picatinny rails at the 11 o'clock position. Theoretically this would make it less of a snag hazard than a top mounted or 45 degree right side mounted red dot.

    - The transition between the main optic and red dot should be quick as you would simply shift your eye to the left end down to use it.

The following disadvantages would probably apply:

    - The red dot would sit at a lower height over bore than the main optic which would mean you would have to slightly lower your eye position to use it. This is probably bad for NVD use as the tubes would hit the receiver, but this setup is intended for non-NVG use.

    - You would have to zero the red dot with a left offset (just like you would zero a laser with an offset).

    - A sturdy rail would be required to attach the Knights mount to the left Picatinny rail. I plan to test this out on a monolithic Colt 6940 upper so it shouldn't be an issue but you would in general have to make sure whatever rail you use is sturdy enough to retain zero with a laser. Perhaps this would be okay on a standard M4 RAS setup.

    - Since it sits on the left side of the gun, you would have to be very careful with how left side accessories such as sling mounts and light pressure pads are set up. You likely also would not be able to wrap your left thumb around the top of the rail as it would get in the way of the aimpoint's line of sight.

    - The optic jutting out of the left side could be a snag hazard, but I do not know how bad this will be without testing it. It seems like the mount puts the optic pretty tight against the top rail (which is why an aimpoint T2 wouldn't work with this setup) so this may be a non-issue.


If the optic does indeed sit way too low, Aimpoint sells spacers (link to spacer) designed to raise the height slightly for the HK416. This could provide just enough height to prevent the user from having to squish down his head to use the left mounted red dot.

Let me know what you think - I would appreciate any comments or input you may have.
11/19/2023 6:51:22 PM EDT
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Those pictures would be exactly what I am looking for - thank you!

Any reason why you never used the mount? If you could offer your opinion on it (compared to other offset mounts) I'd greatly appreciate it.
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I have a NIB one offhand with a spare T-1 sitting around. If I get time tomorrow, I will set it up similar to how you describe and upload a picture or two.


Those pictures would be exactly what I am looking for - thank you!

Any reason why you never used the mount? If you could offer your opinion on it (compared to other offset mounts) I'd greatly appreciate it.

Sorry for the delay here. Turns out I had the P/N wrong. I had two version of the 45 degree mount (one offset and one centered), not the 90 degree mount. Saw you grabbed on though. Awesome.
11/22/2023 12:32:15 PM EDT
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Sorry for the delay here. Turns out I had the P/N wrong. I had two version of the 45 degree mount (one offset and one centered), not the 90 degree mount. Saw you grabbed on though. Awesome.
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No problem at all - I think I did good by snagging one of these 90 degree mounts. It is definitely not a popular or common part for running a red dot off of the right side because the “axes” cant when you rotate the rifle to use it like that. That’s why I’m so interested in experimenting with its use on the left side.

I was actually unaware that KAC made two versions of the 45 degree mount though. What exactly do you mean by “offset” and “centered” versions? If possible, could you post a picture of the two mounts side by side?
11/26/2023 8:58:21 PM EDT
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No problem at all - I think I did good by snagging one of these 90 degree mounts. It is definitely not a popular or common part for running a red dot off of the right side because the “axes” cant when you rotate the rifle to use it like that. That’s why I’m so interested in experimenting with its use on the left side.

I was actually unaware that KAC made two versions of the 45 degree mount though. What exactly do you mean by “offset” and “centered” versions? If possible, could you post a picture of the two mounts side by side?
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Sorry for the delay here. Turns out I had the P/N wrong. I had two version of the 45 degree mount (one offset and one centered), not the 90 degree mount. Saw you grabbed on though. Awesome.


No problem at all - I think I did good by snagging one of these 90 degree mounts. It is definitely not a popular or common part for running a red dot off of the right side because the “axes” cant when you rotate the rifle to use it like that. That’s why I’m so interested in experimenting with its use on the left side.

I was actually unaware that KAC made two versions of the 45 degree mount though. What exactly do you mean by “offset” and “centered” versions? If possible, could you post a picture of the two mounts side by side?

I'll get a picture posted.
9/2/2024 5:51:50 PM EDT
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Never confirmed, but I think 25789 is meant for urx 3.1 pica section(near receive) at 3 o’clock.

They discontinued 25789 ard the time they discontinued 3.1

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