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Posted: 10/18/2010 5:51:40 PM EDT
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A friend of mine just got a dillon 650 and this thing rocks. Just one problem, we are loading .223 and after priming and filling with powder, when it advances it spills some powder. It seems like when it resets in the detent, the sudden stop spills the powder. Has anyone had this problem or something like it? And if so how did you fix it?
We can fix the problem by moving the handle slowly, VERY slowly. That way the there is no sudden stop to shake the case and powder. But to have this machine go that slow seems strange. I should'nt have to move the handle that slowly. We know it is not coming from the powder funnel. It is being shaken from the case itself when the case stops in the next position. Any answers are greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
This has been covered numerous times in this forum and i even have the problem myself....I purchased the roller bearing thru MSC industrial supply and i will have to dig out the old invoice.The needle bearing goes in between the shell plate and cross bolt to take out "some" of the backlash....you can also try trimming the coil down on the spring that holds the ball bearing to locate the shell plate....just make sure to trim a little at a time because a little goes a long way... I did both and i still get some spillage Its just the nature of the beast
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I also use this addition but I found an issue. The Ejector Wire that loops around the center bolt has a leg at the other end that fits into a hole in the platform. The combination of the roller bearing and two washers lifts the Ejector Wire to where it pops out of the hole at the other end. This can lead to jams where the round won't eject correctly. The fix I use is to bend the leg down a bit and not use the lower washer. In addition, I also cut ½ a coil off of the Indexing Ball Spring to make the stop softer. All this worked well but I still got some jerk when the Shellplate indexed into position. After observing the action close up, I found the basic problem and the fix is simply adjusting the machine as follows. The Indexing Pawl needs to drive the Shellplate all the way to the next position. If it stops a bit short or drives it a bit long, the Shellplate will jerk into it's final position as it centers on the Indexing Ball. The Shellplate's travel is controlled by the Indexer Block (#18 on page 50 of your manual). You just loosen the two bolts and adjust it so that the Shellplate turns into position correctly without a jerk at the end. That is what really fixes the powder spillage issue, however, I still use the roller bearing and one washer with the my slightly bent Ejector Wire. |
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I use a combination of clipping coils on the ball detent spring, adjusting the indexer, and getting the shell plate as low to the press as possible while still spinning.
I don't currently use any washers or bearings. Remember that powder takes longer to drop and settle in 223 cases then pistol cases so you need to pause longer on the downstroke. |
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Quoted: After observing the action close up, I found the basic problem and the fix is simply adjusting the machine as follows. The Indexing Pawl needs to drive the Shellplate all the way to the next position. If it stops a bit short or drives it a bit long, the Shellplate will jerk into it's final position as it centers on the Indexing Ball. The Shellplate's travel is controlled by the Indexer Block (#18 on page 50 of your manual). You just loosen the two bolts and adjust it so that the Shellplate turns into position correctly without a jerk at the end. That is what really fixes the powder spillage issue, however, I still use the roller bearing and one washer with the my slightly bent Ejector Wire. Nice tip. I clipped a few coils on the indent ball spring, it seemed to help but I still get spillage. I keep a 1 gallon shop vac on hand and periodically remove all the cases, locator buttons, and just vacuum up the powder Clipping the spring isn't as easy as one would think. I had hold it with a pair of pliers then bend one leg up 90 degrees, then I was able to clip it |
| I had that problem on my second 650 which is set up for 223. I was loading 25 gr 748 and was getting granules of powder thrown out of the brass case. I did the bearing mod- not much help. I then cut the detent spring and also adjusted the detent block which was allowing a slight overtravel of the shellplate- It all works good now. Under or overtravel of the shellplate can also cause priming problems. |
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The Shellplate's travel is controlled by the Indexer Block (#18 on page 50 of your manual). You just loosen the two bolts and adjust it so that the Shellplate turns into position correctly without a jerk at the end. I have never heard of this before so thank you COSteve. I will have to give this a try. jonblack |
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