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Posted: 5/4/2014 12:07:55 PM EDT
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OK I have a question. Please don't attack me for asking this, I'm not trying to do anything illegal. I have access to a lot of strange rifle parts. If you had an upper with a dedicated 5.56 simunition bolt that can not fire live ammo could you make it with a short barrel? Again, I'm not trying to do anything illegal, it is just a question we had at work.
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Also, Simunition rounds are classified as ammunition, whether you think of them as "live ammunition" or not. They are not blanks, by any means. ATF will NOT consider "a gun that can only shoot Simunitions" to "not be a gun."
PS: take a couple of Sim rounds in a training situation, and then get back with us on whether or not Sims should be called "live" ammunition. I've seen deep dents in wooden window frames from those puppies - the pistol rounds, to be specific. |
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OK I have a question. Please don't attack me for asking this, I'm not trying to do anything illegal. I have access to a lot of strange rifle parts. If you had an upper with a dedicated 5.56 simunition bolt that can not fire live ammo could you make it with a short barrel? Again, I'm not trying to do anything illegal, it is just a question we had at work. Thanks Joe If you have access to sims then you are either a LE trainer or mil. That said, no, your agency has to still have registered lowers even though they are tax exempt or using US Govt Property marked mil lowers. |
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I work for the military and have access to these things. I have seen the simunitions for sale along with the bolt to run them. It was just a question as I have never seen anyone ask before.
Joe Oh and I have taken hits by these several hundred times and I personally would not class it with live ammunition. I was not trying to ruffle any feathers here, just wanted an answer. |
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I work for the military and have access to these things. I have seen the simunitions for sale along with the bolt to run them. It was just a question as I have never seen anyone ask before. Joe Oh and I have taken hits by these several hundred times and I personally would not class it with live ammunition. I was not trying to ruffle any feathers here, just wanted an answer. They'll prolly considered live ammo due to the fact that the plastic paint filled "projectile" requires a powder charge to be fired, just like a real round. You're aware that they can break the skin & leave some really nasty welts & cuts when hit anywhere not covered by armor or face mask. |
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They're considered "live ammunition" because they throw a projectile. .22 CB ammunition is live ammo and it is almost always loaded with JUST a primer charge, no powder at all.
I wasn't "ruffled," but I've come across too many people who thought that "if it ain't regular ammo, it's a toy." That's a dangerous attitude, and one I try to eliminate whenever possible. Sims would be great for all sorts of drills, but there is so much opportunity to get into trouble with them, it's probably best to leave them in the hands of formal training instructors and drill managers, even if you can buy them yourself. |
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