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2/3/2019 7:59:23 AM EDT
Rare (and expensive) 7.62x39 from Russia.
Aluminum cased, 7H23 (AP), I/T, HPT, Subsonic, plastic trainer, Sabot with 5.45 steel core
wolfganggross


(Cross posted in AK forum)
2/3/2019 1:11:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1Devildog][Edited] [#1]
Nice. Can you elaborate on the plastic projectile training round? Is the 5.45 core in the sabot from the 7n10? Hardened or mild steel? What is the sabot made of? Aluminum? What are the aluminum cased rounds going for these days? I had the Czech version and recall them being in the $35 range some years ago.
2/4/2019 11:06:19 AM EDT
[#2]
Always interesting !

Thanks for sharing !
*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*

JAFOM.... Just another fat old man.

TOGC,IADC
2/8/2019 8:21:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1Devildog:
Nice. Can you elaborate on the plastic projectile training round? Is the 5.45 core in the sabot from the 7n10? Hardened or mild steel? What is the sabot made of? Aluminum? What are the aluminum cased rounds going for these days? I had the Czech version and recall them being in the $35 range some years ago.
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1Devildog-
Sorry for delay.  Plastic projectile has 711/93 head stamp. Very light, has bubble or empty space at rear of projectile.  There is a hole in case, no powder, and can not pull projectile to tell anything else.

The Sabot one is an experimental from the 60's (?), and core is 5.6mm with a 3.5g weight. Hardened.  My mistake, after reading original post, it did sound like its a 5.45 core, so not a core from a 7n10. (Besides 7n10 has flat tip core, 7n22 has a point on it.  Did you see pics of 5.45mm cutaways a couple months ago, can repost if you wish.) The Sabot is some form of light steel, 2.1g for both halves, and has a high pitch to it when you drop it.  I've seen others by Russian collectors over on IAA forum, but under heading something like "Rare Russian Rounds" by Mpopnker(?).

No idea what the value on the aluminum cased, these all came in trade.  Its very rare and probably the "Holy Grail" for X39 collectors.  I'm gonna say $150, but probably more.  Problem comes trying to find one to purchase.  (Palmetto State Armory does not carry this kind of stuff.) I paid $45 for my Czech Aluminum couple of years ago, then sectioned it!

Thought you would be more excited on the 7n23?
2/8/2019 5:05:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wolfganggross:

1Devildog-
Sorry for delay.  Plastic projectile has 711/93 head stamp. Very light, has bubble or empty space at rear of projectile.  There is a hole in case, no powder, and can not pull projectile to tell anything else.

The Sabot one is an experimental from the 60's (?), and core is 5.6mm with a 3.5g weight. Hardened.  My mistake, after reading original post, it did sound like its a 5.45 core, so not a core from a 7n10. (Besides 7n10 has flat tip core, 7n22 has a point (yup, missed that. A little rusty here...) on it.  Did you see pics of 5.45mm cutaways a couple months ago, can repost if you wish.) The Sabot is some form of light steel, 2.1g for both halves, and has a high pitch to it when you drop it.  I've seen others by Russian collectors over on IAA forum, but under heading something like "Rare Russian Rounds" by Mpopnker(?).

No idea what the value on the aluminum cased, these all came in trade.  Its very rare and probably the "Holy Grail" for X39 collectors.  I'm gonna say $150, but probably more.  Problem comes trying to find one to purchase.  (Palmetto State Armory does not carry this kind of stuff.) I paid $45 for my Czech Aluminum couple of years ago, then sectioned it!

Thought you would be more excited on the 7n23?
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Thought you would be more excited on the 7n23?

Not as much since I'm no longer actively collecting. The other rounds are more interesting from their outward appearance, unusual materials and construction. To me, the 7n23 is just another iteration of AP, but they are always more interesting once sectioned.

The plastic projectile looks like Nylon. Is it possibly a blank like we see in the 5.45 with the plastic projectiles?
2/8/2019 6:15:45 PM EDT
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Is it possible the plastic bullet is some type of "less lethal rubber bullet"?

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