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Link Posted: 10/13/2016 11:15:18 PM EST
There is a wheeled fsgb in the EE right now. Not for the Holland I know but since a lot of the same guys are in here that also watch the mk12 thread I thought I'd bring it to your attention. Not mine by the way. Mine is safely on my mod 0 where it will always be.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 5:14:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/14/2016 5:15:20 PM EST by 8NAK4]
Cut a spacer/crush washer out of 5.56 brass for my Gen 1 Ace SOCOM. 5.56 brass is the perfect diameter to make a DIY spacer. The stock is no longer adjustable, but my LOP is set now for me. I don't mind a fixed stock, and this solves the problem that is SOCOM's weakness. Plus, IMHO, the spacer is aesthetically pleasing too.

Link Posted: 10/14/2016 8:43:12 PM EST
Would it be just totally unacceptable to run the Reece rail and the larue mount? I'm putting a nightforce on my Holland and it's in a larue mount. I have non leverstop rings too so I could go either way. Rings and rail OR larue mount. But I really like the look of the rail and I want to use the larue mount so does anyone use both? Is it too high?
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 9:07:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Would it be just totally unacceptable to run the Reece rail and the larue mount? I'm putting a nightforce on my Holland and it's in a larue mount. I have non leverstop rings too so I could go either way. Rings and rail OR larue mount. But I really like the look of the rail and I want to use the larue mount so does anyone use both? Is it too high?
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Well, the Recce rail and LaRue mount both solve the same problem of bridging the gap. I'd pick one, not go with both. And yes, in my opinion, it would be too tall.
Link Posted: 10/14/2016 9:19:21 PM EST

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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:


Cut a spacer/crush washer out of 5.56 brass for my Gen 1 Ace SOCOM. 5.56 brass is the perfect diameter to make a DIY spacer. The stock is no longer adjustable, but my LOP is set now for me. I don't mind a fixed stock, and this solves the problem that is SOCOM's weakness. Plus, IMHO, the spacer is aesthetically pleasing too.



http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/8NAK4/62027B89-B329-4124-845B-103E2D2C16C8_zpscdcqojjb.jpg
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i made this fucker a stock and a lockout spring spacer....and then he spills the beanzzzzzzz on my cheat code.




u bastid!






Link Posted: 10/14/2016 9:38:38 PM EST
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My cheat code expanded improved upon your cheat code. Don't be jelly. Besides, you spilled the beans about your lock out spring on the previous page. Come at me, Blue!
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 2:36:51 PM EST
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waking this place back up with some fresh loaded ammo




 
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 2:46:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:

Well, the Recce rail and LaRue mount both solve the same problem of bridging the gap. I'd pick one, not go with both. And yes, in my opinion, it would be too tall.
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Would it be just totally unacceptable to run the Reece rail and the larue mount? I'm putting a nightforce on my Holland and it's in a larue mount. I have non leverstop rings too so I could go either way. Rings and rail OR larue mount. But I really like the look of the rail and I want to use the larue mount so does anyone use both? Is it too high?

Well, the Recce rail and LaRue mount both solve the same problem of bridging the gap. I'd pick one, not go with both. And yes, in my opinion, it would be too tall.

This.
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 4:36:29 PM EST
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H'ing





Fall by Kyle Plante, on Flickr






Inst by Kyle Plante, on Flickr

 
Link Posted: 10/16/2016 5:01:39 PM EST
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H'ing

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/N97XJZ" target="_blank">https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8628/30284301481_bc6b90f48b_b.jpg</a>Fall by Kyle Plante, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/N97XdD" target="_blank">https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5519/30284299721_04dd0cb0d0_b.jpg</a>Fall by Kyle Plante, on Flickr
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Damn that's beautiful, I live in the wrong place
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 2:22:51 AM EST
Saw this pic in the Block II thread:

BUIS on top to.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:27:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By prskiller:
Saw this pic in the Block II thread:
https://i.imgur.com/Gf2ecwR.jpg
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Good find I've never seen that one before and definetly the first one with buis.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 11:04:40 AM EST
thats from 5ths last deployment iirc. i had it and lost that before it got to my files. its a good one
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 11:40:31 AM EST
Is that a PRI front sight and an ARMS rear?
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 12:16:13 PM EST
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I was thinking the front looked like a Troy.  But maybe I'm wrong.  But yeah, I'm pretty sure that's an arms rear.  It looks like the one that was used with the rail, integral.  I think it was a #38 maybe????  

Obviously this is not a mod H . Just showing the rail and rear sight.  



Wait, the Mod 0's use them, don't they.  Duh.  

Link Posted: 10/17/2016 12:21:14 PM EST
It's a PRI front sight, found a match.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 12:23:00 PM EST
There you go.  I was wrong.  Nice catch.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 12:27:38 PM EST
So we should be seeing some clones here with the buis soon.  Won't be me though as I don't have quick release scope mounts
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 3:06:48 PM EST
What barrels is everyone using? I know of bison arms and ba, didn't  know is there was anything out there contoured correctly in 1/7 that would shoot better then the bison?
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 3:13:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Carbon244:
What barrels is everyone using? I know of bison arms and ba, didn't  know is there was anything out there contoured correctly in 1/7 that would shoot better then the bison?
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BA here.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 3:20:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Carbon244:
What barrels is everyone using? I know of bison arms and ba, didn't  know is there was anything out there contoured correctly in 1/7 that would shoot better then the bison?
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I have a Douglass

Pri has a Douglass barrel and a bergara barrel that have the cuts as well
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 3:24:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Werd.  I like things cheap.  





My next precision shooting range session I'm gonna try the CAR.  But I may throw the rubber buttpad on there.  Seems like it transforms it and gives it more real estate for a rear bag.  And doesn't dig into the shoulder as much.  Although now that it's getting colder out, that's not that big of a deal.
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:




Originally Posted By chenault:


Ok, you little bastards won me over, I put a wanted ad up for an ACE (AKA the crutch, see pic below), if that doesn't pan out I'll go ACS. Daddy needs one, and what Daddy needs, Daddy gets.  





http://<a href=http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d23/pcrunnels/307_small_Adult_Elbow_Crutch__7760p_zpsplmtsnpm.jpg</a>" />
Lol.





Fuck ACE's. CAR or bust... I paid $7.95 for mine.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszgoaac2z.jpeg


 





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Werd.  I like things cheap.  





My next precision shooting range session I'm gonna try the CAR.  But I may throw the rubber buttpad on there.  Seems like it transforms it and gives it more real estate for a rear bag.  And doesn't dig into the shoulder as much.  Although now that it's getting colder out, that's not that big of a deal.
Word, lemme know how the buttpad works out.
 
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 3:24:51 PM EST
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Doup











ETA:








 
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 6:42:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By prskiller:
Saw this pic in the Block II thread:
https://i.imgur.com/Gf2ecwR.jpg
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Load that trunk and the one next to it into my truck please.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:23:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Load that trunk and the one next to it into my truck please.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By prskiller:
Saw this pic in the Block II thread:
https://i.imgur.com/Gf2ecwR.jpg
BUIS on top to.

Load that trunk and the one next to it into my truck please.


I'll take the tub of Elcans.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:27:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ek_cruiser_316:


I'll take the tub of Elcans.
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Originally Posted By ek_cruiser_316:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By prskiller:
Saw this pic in the Block II thread:
https://i.imgur.com/Gf2ecwR.jpg
BUIS on top to.

Load that trunk and the one next to it into my truck please.


I'll take the tub of Elcans.

That's the one I think I like the best. If anything, you could sell off a bunch and fund several nice builds.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 7:50:38 PM EST
i have a WOA barrel in the correct heavier profile and its nasty accurate.
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i have a WOA barrel in the correct heavier profile and its nasty accurate.
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Blue, do you know if this profile differs from the BA one? If so, do you have a pic or any explanation of the differences?
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:33:49 PM EST
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Blue, do you know if this profile differs from the BA one? If so, do you have a pic or any explanation of the differences?
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Originally Posted By CloneDiseased:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:




i have a WOA barrel in the correct heavier profile and its nasty accurate.
Blue, do you know if this profile differs from the BA one? If so, do you have a pic or any explanation of the differences?



the BA looks a lil thinner. EDIT see below





heres a pic of the actual MK12  Holland barrel for reference:





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Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:37:28 PM EST
I have the BA barrel.  At first I didn't like that it was so thin, but it makes the rifle so handy when the can is out.
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:41:10 PM EST
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I have the BA barrel.  At first I didn't like that it was so thin, but it makes the rifle so handy when the can is out.
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sorry...there were a few guys in here running the non spr profile from ba with ops cuts. i guess like Postal said...less weight. but they have a heavier spr profile one. its similar to the WOA profile. as long as its spr heavy behind the gb it will be like the holland ones.....and the non noveske we speculate is a pri 1/8. ba is also both 1/8 and why i didnt get one. my woa is 1/7















WOA spr (what mine looks like behind gb area)












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Link Posted: 10/17/2016 9:56:01 PM EST
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For some reason I always forget about WOA, but they are damn good barrels.  I built my father in law a SPR with the 18" version and it shoots lights out, great customer service as well.

Good post HaveBlue
Link Posted: 10/17/2016 10:56:03 PM EST
Where are you guys finding the WOA barrels? I don't see them listed anywhere on their site.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 6:54:03 AM EST
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Where are you guys finding the WOA barrels? I don't see them listed anywhere on their site.
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Twitchy had a run of 10 made a year ago from them to his specs. i got one of his last ones off his site. he site isnt up anymore. it was $200 and im glad i grabbed one


 
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 7:41:42 AM EST
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  Twitchy had a run of 10 made a year ago from them to his specs. i got one of his last ones off his site. he site isnt up anymore. it was $200 and im glad i grabbed one
 
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By kb1:
Where are you guys finding the WOA barrels? I don't see them listed anywhere on their site.

  Twitchy had a run of 10 made a year ago from them to his specs. i got one of his last ones off his site. he site isnt up anymore. it was $200 and im glad i grabbed one
 


They are really good about working with customers.  If you want one I'd call them up and see if they could turn one, I bet they would
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 8:48:59 AM EST
Damn my wallet hurts lol did the holland rifles ever use a fixed stock like tge mk12's? Were the rifles ever in anyone elses hands other than seals?
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 8:59:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By InternationalM:
Damn my wallet hurts lol did the holland rifles ever use a fixed stock like tge mk12's? Were the rifles ever in anyone elses hands other than seals?
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No, this was a specific rifle built for a specific unit.  

To our knowledge no fixed stocks were ever used, though as Haveblue mentioned a page or two ago the Gen 1 ACE stocks wear out pretty fast and some members have made them into fixed stocks, but that wasn't the initial purpose behind that stock.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 9:21:00 AM EST

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Originally Posted By chenault:
They are really good about working with customers.  If you want one I'd call them up and see if they could turn one, I bet they would
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:


Originally Posted By kb1:

Where are you guys finding the WOA barrels? I don't see them listed anywhere on their site.


  Twitchy had a run of 10 made a year ago from them to his specs. i got one of his last ones off his site. he site isnt up anymore. it was $200 and im glad i grabbed one

 




They are really good about working with customers.  If you want one I'd call them up and see if they could turn one, I bet they would
Unless they changed their tune, they won't turn a single barrel to your spec.  10 was the minimum order and the lead time was about 3-4  months.  I tried pretty hard to get them and/or PRI to put them into a periodic production runs, but they didn't see the point.  
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 9:56:55 AM EST
Well, I guess it's Bison, CLE, or BA for a barrel then.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 10:02:37 AM EST
I see bcm makes the upper with pri tube how close is it to being correct?
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 10:18:36 AM EST
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And the 16" Bargara on PRI's website, and a Douglass barrel from High Caliber Sales are also options.  

You could always try to get 10 people together to do a run on a WOA barrel.

Honestly, any of the mentioned barrels are going to shoot very well. My original Mod-H barrel was a Bison back when they were pretty much the only show in town and it shot lights out, I'm doing an accuracy test on a BA barrel and it's looking promising, and my current CLE barrel is just fantastic.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 12:32:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chenault:


No, this was a specific rifle built for a specific unit.  

To our knowledge no fixed stocks were ever used, though as Haveblue mentioned a page or two ago the Gen 1 ACE stocks wear out pretty fast and some members have made them into fixed stocks, but that wasn't the initial purpose behind that stock.
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By InternationalM:
Damn my wallet hurts lol did the holland rifles ever use a fixed stock like tge mk12's? Were the rifles ever in anyone elses hands other than seals?


No, this was a specific rifle built for a specific unit.  

To our knowledge no fixed stocks were ever used, though as Haveblue mentioned a page or two ago the Gen 1 ACE stocks wear out pretty fast and some members have made them into fixed stocks, but that wasn't the initial purpose behind that stock.


I thought they were Army builds.  5th SFG.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:03:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chenault:


And the 16" Bargara on PRI's website, and a Douglass barrel from High Caliber Sales are also options.  

You could always try to get 10 people together to do a run on a WOA barrel.

Honestly, any of the mentioned barrels are going to shoot very well. My original Mod-H barrel was a Bison back when they were pretty much the only show in town and it shot lights out, I'm doing an accuracy test on a BA barrel and it's looking promising, and my current CLE barrel is just fantastic.
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By kb1:
Well, I guess it's Bison, CLE, or BA for a barrel then.


And the 16" Bargara on PRI's website, and a Douglass barrel from High Caliber Sales are also options.  

You could always try to get 10 people together to do a run on a WOA barrel.

Honestly, any of the mentioned barrels are going to shoot very well. My original Mod-H barrel was a Bison back when they were pretty much the only show in town and it shot lights out, I'm doing an accuracy test on a BA barrel and it's looking promising, and my current CLE barrel is just fantastic.


I am going with Kevin and his Douglas 16" barrel heavy profile. Same barrel he uses to build his Navy Recce upper with.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 1:40:31 PM EST
How close to correct are the bcms? They have one with the pri tube...
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How close to correct are the bcms? They have one with the pri tube...
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I don't think so.  The FDE one still needs that longer lower rail, but really I don't think any of the 16" BCM barrels are profiled for the OPS break and collar, I could be wrong but I don't think that I am.
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I thought they were Army builds.  5th SFG.
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By InternationalM:
Damn my wallet hurts lol did the holland rifles ever use a fixed stock like tge mk12's? Were the rifles ever in anyone elses hands other than seals?


No, this was a specific rifle built for a specific unit.  

To our knowledge no fixed stocks were ever used, though as Haveblue mentioned a page or two ago the Gen 1 ACE stocks wear out pretty fast and some members have made them into fixed stocks, but that wasn't the initial purpose behind that stock.


I thought they were Army builds.  5th SFG.


That's correct, sorry I missed that part. Yes, the H was build specifically for the 5th SFG

iluvm86: Great barrel choice, I have one of his MK12 uppers and am constantly impressed with it's accuracy and precision.
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That's correct, sorry I missed that part. Yes, the H was build specifically for the 5th SFG



iluvm86: Great barrel choice, I have one of his MK12 uppers and am constantly impressed with it's accuracy and precision.
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Originally Posted By JJREA:


Originally Posted By chenault:


Originally Posted By InternationalM:

Damn my wallet hurts lol did the holland rifles ever use a fixed stock like tge mk12's? Were the rifles ever in anyone elses hands other than seals?




No, this was a specific rifle built for a specific unit.  



To our knowledge no fixed stocks were ever used, though as Haveblue mentioned a page or two ago the Gen 1 ACE stocks wear out pretty fast and some members have made them into fixed stocks, but that wasn't the initial purpose behind that stock.




I thought they were Army builds.  5th SFG.




That's correct, sorry I missed that part. Yes, the H was build specifically for the 5th SFG



iluvm86: Great barrel choice, I have one of his MK12 uppers and am constantly impressed with it's accuracy and precision.
Holland's were run by SF ODA's only and yes, Magpul PRS in black or FDE is your fixed / rifle-length option.
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sorry...there were a few guys in here running the non spr profile from ba with ops cuts. i guess like Postal said...less weight. but they have a heavier spr profile one. its similar to the WOA profile. as long as its spr heavy behind the gb it will be like the holland ones.....and the non noveske we speculate is a pri 1/8. ba is also both 1/8 and why i didnt get one. my woa is 1/7







WOA spr (what mine looks like behind gb area)

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Originally Posted By Postal0311:

I have the BA barrel.  At first I didn't like that it was so thin, but it makes the rifle so handy when the can is out.


 



sorry...there were a few guys in here running the non spr profile from ba with ops cuts. i guess like Postal said...less weight. but they have a heavier spr profile one. its similar to the WOA profile. as long as its spr heavy behind the gb it will be like the holland ones.....and the non noveske we speculate is a pri 1/8. ba is also both 1/8 and why i didnt get one. my woa is 1/7







WOA spr (what mine looks like behind gb area)

http://s22.postimg.org/mo9ua7m8x/26053_ac6436701c45453b6a1d9bdd24f69b18.jpg


 
Damnit - looks like I've got the wrong barrel-weight ...well at least it will be handy
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How close to correct are the bcms? They have one with the pri tube...
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as close as a yugo is to a ferrari. only way you will get a decent mod h complete upper is to ship PRI an ops long collar and brake and have them put it on their barrelled pri tubed upper or call adco to do similar. and both will brolly NOT have a clone correct marked BCG or upper rcvr....and that shit will irk ya if you are going for dead nuts.




mine is built from parts. i cant imagine my cost if i actually paid someone LOL.
Link Posted: 10/18/2016 4:49:12 PM EST
All you guys are killing my wallet! I tried really hard to stay out of here but couldn't do it. I haven't even finished my mod 0 yet and I have already started collecting my spare parts to put a holland together. At least I can get some use out of that vltor now....haha
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