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Link Posted: 10/21/2011 8:22:51 AM EDT
[#1]
How much is a no-drain hole handguard worth?? I believe one of my m16a1 triangular handguards is no drain hole.  Is there anywhere that I can go to see a picture of the difference between the regular and the ones without the holes.  One of mine has very small little round holes and the other doesnt.  One of them is also marked with either an L or an R and I'm not sure whether or not its the one with the hole or without.  I'll take pictures when I get home.  Thanks guys
Link Posted: 10/21/2011 7:16:25 PM EDT
[#2]
Originally Posted By xm177e2687:
How much is a no-drain hole handguard worth?? I believe one of my m16a1 triangular handguards is no drain hole.  Is there anywhere that I can go to see a picture of the difference between the regular and the ones without the holes.  One of mine has very small little round holes and the other doesnt.  One of them is also marked with either an L or an R and I'm not sure whether or not its the one with the hole or without.  I'll take pictures when I get home.  Thanks guys

There should be a photo pointing out the differences in the tacked variation guide. I'm posting from my phone right now, so I can't check.
Link Posted: 10/23/2011 3:06:43 PM EDT
[#3]
What are original three prong flash hiders going for?
Link Posted: 10/23/2011 7:44:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By wicketsurplus:
What are original three prong flash hiders going for?


I have seen them for about $20 to $25.  I gave $20 for mine about a year ago.
Link Posted: 10/23/2011 8:56:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By wicketsurplus:
What are original three prong flash hiders going for?


Seen them for 12-15 on GB.
Link Posted: 10/24/2011 8:14:23 AM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By 86HMMWV:
Originally Posted By xm177e2687:
How much is a no-drain hole handguard worth?? I believe one of my m16a1 triangular handguards is no drain hole.  Is there anywhere that I can go to see a picture of the difference between the regular and the ones without the holes.  One of mine has very small little round holes and the other doesnt.  One of them is also marked with either an L or an R and I'm not sure whether or not its the one with the hole or without.  I'll take pictures when I get home.  Thanks guys

There should be a photo pointing out the differences in the tacked variation guide. I'm posting from my phone right now, so I can't check.


Ok so I have a no drain hole handguard, is it any more valuable than a later triangle handguard? I have a new set on the way to replace the ones I have so I wouldn't mind selling it. it is the Right side handguard and does not have an L or R stamped on the heatshield.
Link Posted: 10/30/2011 5:36:47 PM EDT
[#7]
This thread does not work.
Link Posted: 10/30/2011 7:38:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: crackedcornish] [#8]
Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
This thread does not work.


what do you mean it doesn't work?

Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
I have a 10" heavy barrel that was intended for a 609 build. I wanted this.......



But all I have is this.......



The barrel has had 15 rounds through it to check function. I have a bore scope and I can say without a doubt this barrel is mint. The can is a screw on. The FSB has a forging mark of R and a Crown. It is also stamped "B MP 5.56 NATO 1/9 H Bar." What would this sell for IF I wanted to sell?
Link Posted: 10/30/2011 10:52:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Holy crap! It does / did work! I tried to post this at least 10 times. I'm just shocked to see my post.

Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
This thread does not work.


what do you mean it doesn't work?

Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
I have a 10" heavy barrel that was intended for a 609 build. I wanted this.......

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd513/nukesec1/model609usarmyxm177e1er9.jpg

But all I have is this.......

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd513/nukesec1/001-1.jpg

The barrel has had 15 rounds through it to check function. I have a bore scope and I can say without a doubt this barrel is mint. The can is a screw on. The FSB has a forging mark of R and a Crown. It is also stamped "B MP 5.56 NATO 1/9 H Bar." What would this sell for IF I wanted to sell?


Link Posted: 10/31/2011 1:30:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
Holy crap! It does / did work! I tried to post this at least 10 times. I'm just shocked to see my post.

Originally Posted By crackedcornish:
Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
This thread does not work.


what do you mean it doesn't work?

Originally Posted By ModernPistolero:
I have a 10" heavy barrel that was intended for a 609 build. I wanted this.......

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd513/nukesec1/model609usarmyxm177e1er9.jpg

But all I have is this.......

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd513/nukesec1/001-1.jpg

The barrel has had 15 rounds through it to check function. I have a bore scope and I can say without a doubt this barrel is mint. The can is a screw on. The FSB has a forging mark of R and a Crown. It is also stamped "B MP 5.56 NATO 1/9 H Bar." What would this sell for IF I wanted to sell?




Bushmaster doesn't offer 10" barrels anymore...did you buy it used, or was it cut down? who's moderator is it..Bushy's, Bricks...?

problem with it being a 10" HBAR is it will be an NFA item, which takes a lot of people out of the market for it, and most retro guys want a lightweight barrel since it would be truer to the original models

may be better off trying to sell the barrel and moderator separately
Link Posted: 11/1/2011 8:48:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Morg308] [#11]
Originally Posted By crackedcornish:

problem with it being a 10" HBAR is it will be an NFA item, which takes a lot of people out of the market for it, and most retro guys want a lightweight barrel since it would be truer to the original models

may be better off trying to sell the barrel and moderator separately


+1 - the best idea IMO. If the mod doesn't have flats it's likely a Bushy. You can check prices on their website. W/o knowing round count it's hard for me to put a value on it. I just picked up a 10.5" barreled A1 upper in decent shape for $250 for a friend - I know nothing about the barrel, so in the dark as you are, but the upper looks nice, so that should give you an idea.
Link Posted: 11/4/2011 5:06:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Texan_Ninja] [#12]
I have some retro handguards I recently bought, and I wanted to know the value of them

“R” marked right hand guard. The heat shield is in perfect condition with the usual scratches.




Small Dent (flash makes it look worse than it is)




Some scratches (again, flash makes it look worse)





Unstamped drainhole left handguard, very mottled






Missing two rivets, but the heatshield is still firmly in there




Small chip





No drainhole screw




I was thinking around $25 for everything, would y’all agree?



Link Posted: 11/5/2011 6:07:12 PM EDT
[#13]
I would go a little higher for a nice set of mottled handguards like that!
Link Posted: 11/29/2011 11:09:51 PM EDT
[#14]
What is a NIW slip ring from 1966 worth?
Link Posted: 12/9/2011 2:57:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BILLBO] [#15]
Out of curiosity . Several years ago back in 99 , i came across a guy with a bunch of odd ar15 parts. some  1 of kind stuff . but he had some in military foil unfired 1/14 twist barrels ,  he had 11 of them and offered them to me for $60 each but back in those days (ban days) I was into building carbines with preban lowers.  and when he told me they were not chrome lined i turned them down. What would they be worth ?
Link Posted: 12/9/2011 8:47:06 PM EDT
[#16]
Hi All I Hope Im Doing This Right On Reply
I Have Had These Parts For 20 Plus Years I Know They Are Original
The Pistol Grip And Front Site Are From A Early Carbine Or Survival Rifle
Also Have A Carbine Gas Tube With A Short Bend But Cant Remember If
It Came With This Stuff Or Not
The big question is what are they worth

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1929.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1928.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1935.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1925.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1924.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1921.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r284/lazyr2u/img_1977.jpg
Link Posted: 12/10/2011 5:22:01 PM EDT
[#17]
what  is a Colt A1 pencil barrel marked C MP CHROME BORE worth? bore is nice and bright and rifling looks good. it has the front sight post, but it was stripped. i put a trijicon night sight in for the front pin. curious also is it a 1/12 twist? i was kind of hoping it would be at least a 1/9. any idea of value? it is used, but in good condition. definitely NOT new, old stock condition though, but no gouges, huge scratches, bore imperfections, etc. i just mounted it up to my armalite A2 upper. still need a few small parts before its complete, and a bcg and charging handle.
Link Posted: 12/11/2011 3:58:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NY-EMT] [#18]
I have a Colt CMPC marked 1969 M16 barreled upper, with recessed front takedown pin hole and early style trap door. Square with C marked upper, no carrier or CH. A1 FH with split lock washer, shiny bore chromed chamber with chrome out to ends of barrel extension. Upper seems to have sat on a rifle in the rack, throat checks out 100% on Hawkeye. Interior of receiver shows no wear other than bright spot on end of gas tube. Exterior finish on metal and handguards is 98%, rack wear only. I can post pics but only scratches are on the handguard slip ring.

Chrome chamber, but not bore. 1969 estimate based on Forum Guide: Chrome on full barrel extension on 1969 barrels and had the new gas tube added in '69. Looks to be original by retaining pin.

Trying to decide if it warrants a complete retro build, strip for parts, or dump it and start over with the right parts. Was going to use barrel for another project until I realized how old it was and that it was complete as built. I was just going to un-ban another 'A1 that I had but this uses a different take down pin, has an unchromed bore, and before I make myself too crazy with my options I wanted to know what the value of this was before I potentially commit the modern equivalent of sporterizing a 1903 Springfield.

Thanks





Link Posted: 12/16/2011 10:44:34 AM EDT
[#19]
Hey guys, I bought this at a gunshow a few years ago before doing any real research in what I wanted.

It's a LM forge marked A1 upper with a government profile FNMI barrel, tapered delta ring, A2 door, teardrop FA and it has an A2 flash hider. I can't remember what I paid for it and was wandering what it was worth. Any help is appreciated.













Link Posted: 12/17/2011 9:43:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: imdBman] [#20]
Originally Posted By NY-EMT:
I have a Colt CMPC marked 1969 M16 barreled upper, with recessed front takedown pin hole and early style trap door. Square with C marked upper, no carrier or CH. A1 FH with split lock washer, shiny bore chromed chamber with chrome out to ends of barrel extension. Upper seems to have sat on a rifle in the rack, throat checks out 100% on Hawkeye. Interior of receiver shows no wear other than bright spot on end of gas tube. Exterior finish on metal and handguards is 98%, rack wear only. I can post pics but only scratches are on the handguard slip ring.

Chrome chamber, but not bore. 1969 estimate based on Forum Guide: Chrome on full barrel extension on 1969 barrels and had the new gas tube added in '69. Looks to be original by retaining pin.

Trying to decide if it warrants a complete retro build, strip for parts, or dump it and start over with the right parts. Was going to use barrel for another project until I realized how old it was and that it was complete as built. I was just going to un-ban another 'A1 that I had but this uses a different take down pin, has an unchromed bore, and before I make myself too crazy with my options I wanted to know what the value of this was before I potentially commit the modern equivalent of sporterizing a 1903 Springfield.

Thanks

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/NY-EMT/IMG_0071.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/NY-EMT/IMG_0051.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/NY-EMT/IMG_0057.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/NY-EMT/IMG_0055.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v666/NY-EMT/IMG_0073.jpg


$300-375 Looks like an SP-1 upper.
Link Posted: 12/17/2011 9:48:05 PM EDT
[#21]
Originally Posted By CarnageRush:
Hey guys, I bought this at a gunshow a few years ago before doing any real research in what I wanted.

It's a LM forge marked A1 upper with a government profile FNMI barrel, tapered delta ring, A2 door, teardrop FA and it has an A2 flash hider. I can't remember what I paid for it and was wandering what it was worth. Any help is appreciated.

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3584.jpg

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3583.jpg

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3596.jpg

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3590.jpg

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3592.jpg

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3601.jpg

http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad323/CarnageRush/100_3603.jpg


You really have 2-3 parts with that upper.  The LM upper in black is worth  around $100.00. That A1 port door might get you a little more but it has to be refinished gray.  The FN A2 barrel is worth $150-200.  But the whole upper together is not correct for any Retro build.
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 9:20:48 PM EDT
[#22]
Hello,

Appraisal Please.

Like new 95% + condition.
Colt 6450 early TAO 4 digit serial #
Full door no delector block.
2 COLT 20 rd Metalform Mags
Manual, Sling in bag.

Thanks
Nitro
Link Posted: 12/22/2011 9:33:24 PM EDT
[#23]
Would need pics for a more accurate appraisal.
Link Posted: 1/1/2012 11:51:16 AM EDT
[#24]
Rifle value question.

Upper:
604 receiver
Colt 6520 barrel with about 200 rounds through it.
Colt m16 bcg
slip ring
A1 flash suppressor
Cav arms c.a.r. handguards

Lower:
Psa A2 receiver
Psa Lpk
Bushmaster 2 position buffer tube
Bushmaster aluminum c.a.r. stock

There is minor finish wear on the barrel and upper receiver.
Link Posted: 1/4/2012 10:28:45 PM EDT
[#25]
whats a Colt 2 postion buffer tube worth. out side is like new. there is a little were on the inside.



Link Posted: 1/4/2012 10:30:52 PM EDT
[#26]
Link Posted: 1/6/2012 8:16:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Muskyjerk] [#27]
What just fell ino my lap

Box marked 6521

unfired

colt carbine
SN CC001xxx
cal. 223
Barrel C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7
large screw
large trigger / hammer pins
sear block
two rivoted mags
2 pos stock
ar carrier
pincel barrel
a2 hider
car handguards

do I hang onto it or ???

one web site said it was an export only?







Edit: Found A past isting.... Looks like they like these in CT....

No replies needed..
Link Posted: 1/7/2012 6:53:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Docsprague] [#28]
Moved to different thread
Link Posted: 1/15/2012 9:11:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Link Posted: 1/16/2012 12:13:52 AM EDT
[#30]
I am wondering what the value of a 2 position milspec and commercial(bushmaster I believe) receiver extension is. Also would like to know the value of a milspec 3 position which looks just like the 2 position in the pictures and also think it is colt. The pictures are for a milspec 2 position which I believe is a colt but could be wrong.





Link Posted: 1/16/2012 12:48:59 AM EDT
[#31]
I'm gonna assume the three position is a BM also as they were quite popular.  The commercial tube if decent should be $15ish.  The Colt tube will bring more in auction setting.  Figure $50-100 if condition is good and two bidders go at it pretty heavy.  Should have a little thread damamge from pin.  The BM milspec three positions should bring $20-40 in real nice condition.  Only the Colt would sell in my area right now for more than $15 and doubt if you could get $50 for the Colt unless right place at right time.  Gonna have to go www to sell in my opinion.  Last funshow I could have bought a complete Colt for $225 more than likely,  seller had reduced from $300 to $250.  Said I was the only person that even knew what it was in two days.
Link Posted: 1/27/2012 9:52:37 PM EDT
[#32]
I have been told this is an early Colt Air Force Mag.  Marked on .223 on the floor plate, not 5.56.  Also has a "1" with a circle on the side.  Any idea what it is worth to someone in the market?



Link Posted: 1/27/2012 11:22:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Docsprague –– I'm not too familiar with what the "1" marking is, but for what its worth, I paid 15 each for some Colt mags with the same bottom plate as yours  (but no "1" marking on the side) at the fun show 2 weeks ago.
Link Posted: 1/28/2012 7:08:25 PM EDT
[#34]
I would think 20-well used and 30 excellent max. A little more than a standard mag. I paid 10 each for mine, but really very few people notice or care about this stuff its just a 20rd mag to them.
Link Posted: 2/7/2012 1:42:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 12:04:15 AM EDT
[#36]
I bought an AR for the preban lower and am trying to sell off the rest. The one part I have no experience with is the metal CA stock.  I don't know if it's Colt or something else and I have no idea what it's worth.  

It has a rough textured grey finish (parkerized?).  Other than that it looks like any other metal CAR stock I see online. The tube is a 3 position with the older style nut.  The buffer has a black plastic face.   I'd appreciate any insight as to who made it and what it's worth.  Thanks.



Link Posted: 2/12/2012 8:05:39 PM EDT
[#37]
Hopefully someone will answer you who has the knowledge base but don't hold your breath. I posted some pictures of my SP1 and it's been all crickets since you posted today. I'm not sure if the thread is just dead or no one is offering appraisals anymore. The best advise I can give you is visit Gun Broker and Guns America to find a similar item as yours. Good luck man.
Link Posted: 2/13/2012 12:50:59 PM EDT
[#38]
mikeykey - Thanks
Link Posted: 2/13/2012 10:35:36 PM EDT
[#39]




I
built this gun a couple years ago and have toyed with the notion of
selling it. I am trying to get rid of guns I don't use and after
shooting this one twice it has sat in the safe. The lower is a NODAK
XM16E1 with a DPMS parts kit. The upper was black and I had US Anodizing
do the lower and it matches pretty good. The Upper I believe is a Colt
and has a RRA BCG and charging handle. The rifle has been flawless and
shoots quite well. For color reference I put it next to my RRA mid
length. What is this rifle worth roughly, and would I be better off if I
parted it out?


















 
 




Link Posted: 2/14/2012 4:59:55 PM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 2/14/2012 7:53:34 PM EDT
[#41]
I think the Internet price for a used pair with scratches is $40.  ( ? )  It looks like yours is painted, I would hit it with paint stripper and see how it looks under the paint. Lefts are harder to come by than rights.



Link Posted: 2/22/2012 12:53:57 AM EDT
[#42]
I have an AR-15 A2 Govt I purchased new in the early 1990's.

It does not have the bayonet lug and has had less than 1000 rounds fired through it (mostly gun safe dweller).

I do not have the box or manual. The serial is a low 4 digit GS number.

Any ideas what I should ask for the rifle? I am looking to get rid of it as I just don't shoot it much anymore.

Thanks,

Rick
Link Posted: 2/24/2012 7:56:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ducttape4all] [#43]
Found out
Link Posted: 3/1/2012 5:47:56 AM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 3/1/2012 10:24:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lsujim] [#45]
Could I get an appraisal for this? Metal CAR stock. No markings.

Link Posted: 3/4/2012 2:08:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AZYoungGun] [#46]
Looking to get this upper and furniture set appraised, if possible.

Looks to be a standard A1 style upper, Gov't profile barrel under the guards (one of which has a crack that would be easily repaired with a bit of epoxy or JB Weld, but it's still serviceable as-is). Everything appears to have Colt markings in one form or another. Mottled A1 grip (I have a matte one somewhere as well), A1 stock, etc. I was told that this was part of a lot that was sold by the US Marshall Service a while back, though I'm not sure how I'd confirm that. Either way, it does show wear from use. And yes, it's dirty (but accurate as all get out for what it is!).



Colt markings, etc. It's a little dusty, so all the little white specks aren't marks.


Another Colt "C" marking (no, it's not a lower-case "e").


I've never seen "relief" cuts like this on any other bolt that I can recall, but I'm not going to get my other upper out to check and see if I'm merely not that observant, or what. Also, it has a faint "MPC" marked on the bolt.


Again, Colt markings. I can't find a date anywhere, however.


Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:18:36 PM EDT
[#47]
All Colt bolts have those reliefs cuts - it's the quickest way to identify a Colt  bolt from a pic. Looks like you're GTG.
Link Posted: 3/10/2012 12:43:31 AM EDT
[#48]
Originally Posted By Morg308:
All Colt bolts have those reliefs cuts - it's the quickest way to identify a Colt  bolt from a pic. Looks like you're GTG.


Excellent. Any idea on what it's all worth?
Link Posted: 3/11/2012 5:39:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlDiveCop71] [#49]


Not to knit-pick, Mike - but looks like you have your sling mounted on backwards (The metal clip of the M1 sling is meant to hook onto the rear swivel, rather than the front.).
As far as an appraisal goes - Looks to be made sometime in 1964... I would say it's worth somewhere between $2500-$2800 as pictured with all period-correct accessories, though you could fetch maybe twice that if sold through an auction-site...

Just a guess/YMMV...
FlDiveCop71
Link Posted: 3/11/2012 10:50:09 PM EDT
[#50]
I'm curious if what I have here is worth anything. I know it came off of a colt M16 complete upper that was on the market as surplus 6 or 7 years ago. It doesn't have any proof marks or forge codes. It does have a counterbored front take down pin hole. It does not have the correct forward assist but it does have a correct port door. I'm just curious what it is worth. I'm considering selling it but I haven't really decided yet. I snapped the pics quick with my iPhone. If anyone wants better pics of anything in particular I can use the real camera in macro mode.

Upper picture. Never mind the barrel thats on it right now.


Front right area. No proof marks present.


Right rear of carry handle. No forge codes


Counterbored front lug. Scratches shown are the only blemishes on the upper.
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