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Next time I'll try Yellow on the PMAG. ROUND 3, looks like FDE is the best host. SUMMARY (Page 4 of 14)
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Originally Posted By HK_Shooter_03:
I'd like to get a foliage green PRS stock to put onto a black rifle.Can I dye it black over and over until it actually appears to be blackor will it be purple or some other weird color? No problem going black. Use the powdered Rit dye and add the whole package to your water. Heat the water to just before a boil and keep it there (170-190) |
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Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
How do you make those digital and regular camo patterns? I use electrical tape to mask. I dye my lightest shades to darkest shades. Each step I add more masks. The shapes are all cut out of the electrical tape by hand with a swivel head craft knife. |
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Originally Posted By MTguns: Originally Posted By LuckyDucky: How do you make those digital and regular camo patterns? I use electrical tape to mask. I dye my lightest shades to darkest shades. Each step I add more masks. The shapes are all cut out of the electrical tape by hand with a swivel head craft knife. So you put little tape squares all over the mag (or tape blobs) and then dipped the whole thing in a light color then repeated the process with a darker color and so on? |
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Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
Originally Posted By MTguns:
Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
How do you make those digital and regular camo patterns? I use electrical tape to mask. I dye my lightest shades to darkest shades. Each step I add more masks. The shapes are all cut out of the electrical tape by hand with a swivel head craft knife. So you put little tape squares all over the mag (or tape blobs) and then dipped the whole thing in a light color then repeated the process with a darker color and so on? roger-o |
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Originally Posted By MTguns: Originally Posted By LuckyDucky: Originally Posted By MTguns: Originally Posted By LuckyDucky: How do you make those digital and regular camo patterns? I use electrical tape to mask. I dye my lightest shades to darkest shades. Each step I add more masks. The shapes are all cut out of the electrical tape by hand with a swivel head craft knife. So you put little tape squares all over the mag (or tape blobs) and then dipped the whole thing in a light color then repeated the process with a darker color and so on? roger-o How did you pick a pattern? Did you just look at a pre-existing one or try to do it "randomly?" |
| a little bit of both. I have used my imagination, a sample of the pattern from either a jacket or pants, and I have also used an image from my laptop. Wife and kids spent some time down in the 'united' states for a death in the family so I had quite a bit of time on my hands. |
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Originally Posted By cybrscream:
Is there any color change with any of the dyes on black polymer? nope 
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Originally Posted By MTguns: Originally Posted By LuckyDucky: Originally Posted By MTguns: Originally Posted By LuckyDucky: How do you make those digital and regular camo patterns? I use electrical tape to mask. I dye my lightest shades to darkest shades. Each step I add more masks. The shapes are all cut out of the electrical tape by hand with a swivel head craft knife. So you put little tape squares all over the mag (or tape blobs) and then dipped the whole thing in a light color then repeated the process with a darker color and so on? roger-o What happens when you dip in green and then in brown? Do the colors mix or does the darker color win out? Because in the camo patterns that is what you do right? |
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i did my 12.5" SBR in Plum today. its a very subtle dark purple that really comes out in sunlight (we get a lil' bit of that here in Phx....).
didn't have time to get pics before dark but i will post soon. some lessons learned: rinsing parts off immediately makes a huge difference. i let a few sit for a few minutes and they basically turned black. i died 2 pmags at the same time. both were foliage green, one was an older mag and one was the newer RevM. both done at same time, exact same length in the dye and removed & rinsed together. and the RevM came out much darker. had the same problem with 2 other RevM mags i did earlier...they are nearly black. must be a slight diff in the plastic used? |
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Originally Posted By MTguns:
Glock 22 another late night project http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0015.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0014.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0020.jpg Did that Glock start out black!? |
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Originally Posted By WWCND:
Originally Posted By MTguns:
Glock 22 another late night project http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0015.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0014.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0020.jpg Did that Glock start out black!? +1 like the dark brown |
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pics of my Plum experiment
all furniture started as Foliage Green in the shade (sunny day) 
direct sunlight (yea, i know, i need to clean that grill....) 
if I could go back I might go a touch lighter, but i'm pretty happy with the subtlety of it....indoors it basically looks black. the color definitely comes out in sunlight though. here is an interesting comparison of mags: 
the 3 on the right were done earlier...left in the mix a few minutes longer and not rinsed off. the 2nd and 3rd from left were done at identical times, but appear much different. I guess the texture of the RevM mags takes a different hue than the slightly "glossier" texture of earlier Pmags.... also note on the far left mag that the feedlips were dirty from suppressed fire when i started, and didn't seem to take the pigment (i guess they'll still be foliage underneath if i clean it off? not sure...) |
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Nothing special about what I did here, but didn't see anybody dyeing conversion mags so I figured I put these up here. CMMG 22 conversion mags...gray w/ green follower other hardware.  Dyed Mags   With my Black Dog mags.  Not sure if it's just my imagination, but they feel "slicker" than before...especially the followers and their movement in the mag. Hmmm...I dunno. Definitely look better.  |
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Originally Posted By ALLANJ:
White LaRue Index clips http://www.dfwstangs.net/coppermine/albums/userpics/10013/indexclips_005.jpg Also have a UDE Pmag that I am testing colors for. haha. "a rainbow of flavors" 
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Originally Posted By MTguns:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0590.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0598.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0605.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0585.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0580.jpg do you do commissions? you could make a few arfcommers very happy |
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Originally Posted By D_CRISIS:
Originally Posted By MTguns:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0590.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0598.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0605.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0585.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0580.jpg do you do commissions? you could make a few arfcommers very happy I could but it would be costly. I just did 8 parts total and it took me 18 hours to complete it. Hand cutting the designs and placing each piece as well as ensuring there is as little bleeding as posible is very labor intensive. The dyeing itself is just watching hot water for 30 secs to 4 minutes. But for someone who wanted to invest thier own time this is a very doable project. I think next I will see how the dye holds up to a stippling job. |
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Originally Posted By MTguns:
......................... I think next I will see how the dye holds up to a stippling job. It won't, the dye doesn't go deep enough; ref: 
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Originally Posted By MTguns:
http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0590.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0598.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0605.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0585.jpg http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad50/AKsnowHare/DSC_0580.jpg Simply amazing! +1 on the pictorial tutorial. |
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Originally Posted By Requiem:
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I have found several tricks to help with making the camo patterns. 1. plan out what you want. I often will draw the camo patten with colored pencils and paper first, listing what order I will do the dye steps. 2. I use electrical tape to mask with. I have found my best results are with Scotch brand professional '33' electrical tape. I have found in in black, blue, green, red, yellow, orange, clear, and white. (clear really didn't work for me) 3. Have a smooth cutting surface to cut the tape on. I use a srap piece of plexi glass. That allows me to place a sheet of graph paper behind it to use a reference lines. 4. Knives- new exacto blades are good. I even found a crafting swivel head razor knife at Michael's. 5. for the digital patterns I used graph paper (five squares per inch) to make templates. Then transfered them to cardstock. rotating my templates and flipping them over gave me many options for shapes. 6. When making masks that use more than one width of tape make sure to tape the seams of the two peices to avoid bleed through. 7. For lifting/positioning tools I have retired dental tools. (just visit you dentist and ask) They work good for ensuring the tape sticks in the inside corners. 8. When putting the electrical tape on your part ensure the tape is not pulled tight at all. The heat will cause it to shrink (relax) and it will cause all types of problems. 9. I preheat the oven at 170. Place the taped parts in the oven before they go into the dye. the part will be warm and the tape will be supple. Do a final press of the tape onto your part before you dip. This works really well for textured areas. I have series of pictures for my digital that I can explain. 
Water temp was maintained from 170-190 degrees ratio of dye to water was 1/4 teaspoon per 4 cups 
example of my masking stage. This was my first attempt at the digital pattern. You can see the squares are larger on the magazine vs the MOE stuff. That is the difference in using quad rulled (4 squares per inch) paper and the smaller 5 squares per in paper to make your stencils with. 
Starting with a FDE plastic the blue tape covers up what will stay FDE. This will get dipped into brown rit. The 511 vest is used as a color match. I kept it close by to check my colors 
Next came green tape. The Blue tape remains still protecting the original FDE. green tape will now save the brown-er color. 
next is white tape keeping the previous blue and green in place. After the white is applied this will be the final dye for this set. 
After each time I would rinse the part with clean water and towel dry, followed by blow drying. Any pieces of tape that let water in (normally at inside corners) I would use a paper towel and press out the water. This is a great poor mans project. You can get awesome results with very little money. 
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Originally Posted By Rudolf_Diesel:
Very cool thread. I'm impressed with how clean the lines are on some of these. I would have expected the tape lines to become fuzzy with hot water immersion. How do the dye jobs wear? The HK guys have been doing their USC and SL8s for quite some time. I have thought of putting a flat clearcoat over my stuff for UV protection. But I am not sure if that is needed or what product would be appropriate. |
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Next time I'll try Yellow on the PMAG. ROUND 3, looks like FDE is the best host. SUMMARY (Page 4 of 14)
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