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7/16/2016 9:13:24 PM EDT
Does anyone know the current value of Knights pre-ban waffle magazines in sealed factory packaging? I acquired these in 1993 when I purchased a SR-25 from Knights.



7/16/2016 10:21:00 PM EDT
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I thought I posted this in the appraisal forum. Is there a way to delete this post?
7/16/2016 10:31:50 PM EDT
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7/16/2016 10:57:57 PM EDT
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Can we see shots of the follower and the base plate?
7/16/2016 11:04:53 PM EDT
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I can take a photograph tomorrow and post. There are no markings on all the waffle magazines I received from Knights Armament. I understand Knights bought up all the available surplus AR-10 magazines and modified them for their SR-25.
7/16/2016 11:20:31 PM EDT
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Thanks, but it sounds like Olgunner might be able to help me if I post the photo he requested.
7/17/2016 12:39:04 AM EDT
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Knights put a blank baseplate on surplus mags.
7/17/2016 1:31:46 AM EDT
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I recently got two NIW off the EE $106 shipped. The bodies and followers are I believe NOS original AR10 anodized aluminum, the base plates are blank the anodizing is a different type and color. I do not have an available photo at this time. They are kind of a bastard as they are not original AR10 nor are they the later steel KACs.
7/17/2016 1:33:51 AM EDT
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There is an apprasial forum? Link?
7/17/2016 1:38:45 AM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/523435_OFFICIAL_APPRAISAL_THREAD_REQUESTS_FOR_APPRAISALS_ONLY_IN_THIS_THREAD.html
7/17/2016 1:39:43 AM EDT
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There is an apprasial forum? Link?

Jesus Christ, people - VERY FIRST TACKED THREAD IN THIS FORUM.......

It is an appraisal thread, not an appraisal forum
7/17/2016 11:13:45 AM EDT
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OP, tell us about your SR25, like to see a pic or two of that early gun.


7/17/2016 11:13:45 AM EDT
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dooh!
7/17/2016 9:28:32 PM EDT
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Here you go. It was a busy day. I just got done with drywall and priming.




7/17/2016 9:54:14 PM EDT
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http://snm-exotics.com/img/1st-kac-mag.jpg
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Here is a photo of my pre-ban SR-25 Match. It is serial number 200x3. It has an excellent Milazzo-Kreiger two stage trigger installed by Knights.




Here is a photo of my pre-ban SR-25 Standard. It also has an excellent Milazzo-Kreiger two stage trigger installed by Knights.




7/17/2016 10:12:01 PM EDT
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Knight's should still make that pattern.
7/18/2016 10:09:41 AM EDT
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Here's my early SR-25 Match rifle, bought some time in '93. Reed brought a match trigger to Knob Creek in '95, and he and Gene Stoner installed it on the spot.....along with an original AR10 Mag.



7/18/2016 11:13:00 AM EDT
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Here is a photo of my pre-ban SR-25 Match. It is serial number 200x3. It has an excellent Milazzo-Kreiger two stage trigger installed by Knights.

http://www.fototime.com/22CF3BB8547E0DC/large.jpg


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http://snm-exotics.com/img/1st-kac-mag.jpg



Here is a photo of my pre-ban SR-25 Match. It is serial number 200x3. It has an excellent Milazzo-Kreiger two stage trigger installed by Knights.

http://www.fototime.com/22CF3BB8547E0DC/large.jpg




Man those early match models give me wood! Obermeyer 5r barrels, MK triggers, suppressor mount, Another one of those guns that I coulda, woulda, shoulda... Probably a good thing I didn't get one though as I would have shot the crap out of it XC and LR. Thank you both for the photos!
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7/18/2016 11:21:21 AM EDT
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http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/waffle%203_zpsi5kfbeqv.jpg
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Eugene Frickin' Stoner and Reed Frickin' Knight installed your trigger for you?

No matter how cool I try to be, I will never be "Gene and Reed personally upgraded my rifle for me" cool!
7/18/2016 11:27:23 AM EDT
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Here's my early SR-25 Match rifle, bought some time in '93. Reed brought a match trigger to Knob Creek in '95, and he and Gene Stoner installed it on the spot.....along with an original AR10 Mag.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/SR25_zpsyhhv6iao.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/waffle%203_zpsi5kfbeqv.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/waffle%202_zps49o6frsc.jpg

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Super cool rifle with a story! So you met Eugene?



But Louis..... Crop and rotate man! Those retro toes did give me a good laugh.  I almost spit coffee on my computer.
7/18/2016 11:30:14 AM EDT
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Eugene Frickin' Stoner and Reed Frickin' Knight installed your trigger for you?



No matter how cool I try to be, I will never be "Gene and Reed personally upgraded my rifle for me" cool!
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Here's my early SR-25 Match rifle, bought some time in '93. Reed brought a match trigger to Knob Creek in '95, and he and Gene Stoner installed it on the spot.....along with an original AR10 Mag.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/SR25_zpsyhhv6iao.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/waffle%203_zpsi5kfbeqv.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/waffle%202_zps49o6frsc.jpg

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz327/T00lmanii/waffle%201_zpsnesryq5m.jpg




Eugene Frickin' Stoner and Reed Frickin' Knight installed your trigger for you?



No matter how cool I try to be, I will never be "Gene and Reed personally upgraded my rifle for me" cool!
This exactly, and mentioned all non chalant too.
7/18/2016 11:48:53 AM EDT
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Nor will I ever be "Gene and Reed personally upgraded my rifle for me" cool! Dang.
7/18/2016 1:46:59 PM EDT
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I wonder what these rifles are worth now. Would the appraisal thread be the best place to ask?

Here is some more detail.

My SR-25 Match (SN 200x3) was built March 1993 and my SR-25 Standard (SN 2164x) was built 12 months later. That works out to approximately 133 guns per month. Knight's started offering the Krieger 2-stage trigger later in 1993. I believe they started offering their own 2-stage trigger in 1995.

I placed my order with Mr. Knight's personal secretary, Sue Walker, on January 27, 1993. My rifle had one unusual feature which was an ejection port cover made from piano hinge. It actually looked very nice. I was told that Knight's had not received the stamped covers for the first 100 rifles so they ran down to the hardware store and bought some piano hinge to fabricate covers.
A year later I returned my rifle to Knight's for a gas system modification and the installation of a Krieger Trigger. When they returned my rifle they had replaced the piano hinge cover with a new stamped cover. I called them and asked for the piano hinge cover back since I thought it was unique, but they refused to return the old parts. I guess it was an embarrassment to them that they had to ship the first 100 rifles that way.

About ten years later I decided to put an adjustable gas tube in my SR-25 Match and found that Knights applied Rocksett to the gas block when they modified my rifle to slow the bolt down on early guns. After talking with an SR-25 armorer I was able to remove the gas block and install the adjustable gas tube.



7/18/2016 2:26:03 PM EDT
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That piano hinge dust cover sounds really interesting, would of loved to see that. I remember some later SR25s coming with a tig welded dust cover configuration that they made in a pinch.
7/18/2016 3:51:57 PM EDT
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Fire4effect, in those early days, Knights did not build rifles in serial number order. It is possible to have a higher number on an earlier rifle, and vice versa.
I too put an adjustable gas system on my rifle, but I machined a whole new block, to use a needle/seat.
Ill post a pic of that when im in better shape, lol, wouldnt want to hurt Matt's sensitivities. Im doped out on pain meds at the moment for kidney stones.
7/18/2016 6:31:25 PM EDT
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Fire4effect, in those early days, Knights did not build rifles in serial number order. It is possible to have a higher number on an earlier rifle, and vice versa.
I too put an adjustable gas system on my rifle, but I machined a whole new block, to use a needle/seat.
Ill post a pic of that when im in better shape, lol, wouldnt want to hurt Matt's sensitivities. Im doped out on pain meds at the moment for kidney stones.
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I know when my rifles were built because I purchased them directly from Knights and I stayed in contact with Reed Knight's secretary to stay updated when they would be built and shipped. The test target for my SR-25 Match is dated March 10, 1993.

Regarding kidney stones, I know how painful those can be. I passed one over the Christmas holiday in 1970 in the barracks at Shepard AFB. Last December, 10 days after lumbar decompression surgery, I thought I was starting to pass a kidney stone again. I went to se my doctor right away and it turned out to be a pulmonary embolism in the lower quadrant of my left lung by the kidney.

7/19/2016 5:44:40 AM EDT
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Appraisal

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