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7/31/2010 6:56:47 PM EDT
I have been a hand gunner for several years.  My problem is I like the nice stuff.  Sigs, HKs etc.  I would like to get an AR but still don't have a feel for what is considered the good stuff versus maybe lower quality.  I definitely want quality and reliability.  I also need to decide between DI or gas piston. Locally I can get S&W, LMT, Sabre, Bushmaster, Olympic.  Any suggestions?
7/31/2010 7:00:00 PM EDT
[#1]
i hear ya. from your list i would get a LMT or Sabre.

i own a LMT and it has been flawless, and is accurate as all get out.

EDITED to add: get a DI system.
7/31/2010 7:09:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I agree with Merdoc
7/31/2010 7:09:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Noveske and DI.   Pistons are for noobs.
7/31/2010 7:17:16 PM EDT
[#4]
i was leaning towards Sabre because they are made in TN, i hate everything about IL. (i live on the border)

but i got a deal on the LMT and its great.

either are awesome rifles.
7/31/2010 10:17:58 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Noveske and DI.   Pistons are for noobs.



Care to elaborate ??
7/31/2010 10:49:35 PM EDT
[#6]
1.KAC SR15
2.Noveske
3.LWRC
4. BCM,Sabre,LMT
7/31/2010 10:55:52 PM EDT
[#7]
In no particular order a list of guns I would bet my life on are, KAC, LMT, BCM, Colt, LWRC, S&W. I've had experience with all of them, I personanly own KAC and BCM. Both guns are close to if not over the 10k round mark and I have yet to have any major issues.
7/31/2010 11:06:44 PM EDT
[#8]
DI
 #1
Noveske N4  is a Top of the line Best M4 on the market
I rate there barrels above Colt/LMT etc!


I own or had

1 Colt
2 bushmaster
1 LMT M4 14.5 Defender 2000
Home made LMT M4 14.5 upper on Bushmaster lower

Cant tell any Major difference between them
8/1/2010 7:10:54 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Noveske and DI.   Pistons are for noobs.



Care to elaborate ??


Pistons are a Solution in search of a problem.  They market well to those lacking experience with the AR platform.  The unreliability of the ar platform is an urban legend.  Even dirty and dry the will run longer than needed.
8/1/2010 7:15:44 AM EDT
[#10]
After close to five years, my Bushmaster shoots dead straight and has given me zero problems.  I have a BCM BCG in it, and I use PMags pretty much exclusively.
8/1/2010 7:17:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
1.KAC SR15
2.Noveske
3.LWRC
4. BCM,Sabre,LMT


can't go wrong with all of these..you can also add Colt and Daniel Defense to the list..I own (4) of the (6) quoted but, have shot all of them plus a few others.
8/1/2010 7:25:56 AM EDT
[#12]
From your list, I would go with LMT or Sabre.  Don't forget to look at Spikes or BCM.

ETA: Never, under any circumstances, even if you're being chased by zombies, consider Olympic.   Well, I guess the Olympic would give you something to beat them with.
8/1/2010 7:33:09 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:Pistons are for noobs.


as generic as this statement is, i kind of tend to agree.

Seems like MOST of the people throwing piston kits in their rifles are newer AR owners who have never even
experienced issues with the platform, and just heard that DI is unreliable and Pistons are the new thing.
8/1/2010 9:05:12 AM EDT
[#14]
There are tone of threads  that handle the " what should I buy" topic. Just remember we live in the hi tech computer age. You are not limited to what the local shop has on the shelf. I never even look at what the local shop has, I order online and have it sent to my FFL who is a neighbor of mine. As others have said  Noveske, Colt, LMT, KAC, BCM, Spikes, Armalite are all top tier rifles. Some may not put Spikes on the top tier but when you look at their specs that is where they belong. The best part is they have middle tier pricing  and that is why they are so popular. We all need to decide on what fits our needs. Have fun, read all you can but I am warning you, these things are addictive!!
8/1/2010 9:09:52 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
1.KAC SR15
2.Noveske
3.LWRC
4. BCM,Sabre,LMT


can't go wrong with all of these..you can also add Colt and Daniel Defense to the list..I own (4) of the (6) quoted but, have shot all of them plus a few others.


8/1/2010 9:22:15 AM EDT
[#16]
DI works for me.   If anyone feels they really need a piston they should watch this video showing a DI torture test.

http://www.alabamapreppersnetwork.com/2009/08/ar-15-torture-test.html
8/1/2010 9:36:55 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
In no particular order a list of guns I would bet my life on are, KAC, LMT, BCM, Colt, LWRC, S&W. I've had experience with all of them, I personanly own KAC and BCM. Both guns are close to if not over the 10k round mark and I have yet to have any major issues.


That above is a pretty good list. I'd add larue and noveske to it as well and maybe spikes based on peoples responces here(don't have any good first hand experience with spikes or lwrc).

Personally for a carbine I'd go with a kac complete lower(which is hella nice with the sopmod, ambi controls, and 2 stage trigger) or the complete lmt lower with sopmod and get a noveske, larue, bravo company, etc upper that looks the best to you.

For a complete gun I'd look at the larue obr lite, the kac, some of the higher end lmts, or the noveske.
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