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8/9/2026 2:51:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thorm001][Edited]



Engineered for high velocity, accuracy and consistent performance at distances once considered unattainable from 5.56, all in a compact 11.5" frame.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/Db0tkMHjQCx/?igsh=a3lkaG4xeGJqMWMz
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
8/9/2026 5:45:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Gun looks good but I don't know what they were saying because without an account you don't get sound.
8/9/2026 5:57:29 PM EDT
[#2]
77SMK gets 2700fps out of a 11.5” normally gets 2300.

I want to know what it gets out of a 14.5 and 16” just for curiosity.

If the upper is ever available at a reasonable price I’ll be in for one as well
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8/9/2026 6:41:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Is this with some type of special cased ammo or just plain old 77smk?


Either way that is a pretty nice design and 11.5 is the perfect size if you get full size results.
8/9/2026 6:46:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zerlak][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By JamesJones:
Is this with some type of special cased ammo or just plain old 77smk?


Either way that is a pretty nice design and 11.5 is the perfect size if you get full size results.
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It's the higher pressure rounds.
8/9/2026 6:51:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JamesJones:
Is this with some type of special cased ammo or just plain old 77smk?


Either way that is a pretty nice design and 11.5 is the perfect size if you get full size results.
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Gotta be those NAS3 cases.
There's no other way to get it going that fast.
8/9/2026 7:29:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nobody69s:
Gotta be those NAS3 cases.
There's no other way to get it going that fast.
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Agreed.   Unless someone is producing a binary case
8/9/2026 8:10:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 135Patriots][Edited] [#7]
Hopefully this kills the M7/M8 program, though I worry sunk cost fallacy makes it too scary to pull off.

2,700FPS 77gr from an 11” barrel is absolutely smoking.
8/9/2026 9:08:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 135Patriots:
Hopefully this kills the M7/M8 program, though I worry sunk cost fallacy makes it too scary to pull off.

2,700FPS 77gr from an 11” barrel is absolutely smoking.
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agree 100%
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
8/9/2026 9:35:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunner76:
Gun looks good but I don't know what they were saying because without an account you don't get sound.
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It’s just muted by default, one just needs to unmute it.
8/9/2026 9:59:12 PM EDT
[#10]
It isnt NAS3 or bimetal cases. It's essentially +Peak as Federal already won a "contract" for their tech to be used in this bid.
8/9/2026 10:13:44 PM EDT
[#11]
5.56 will never die, just keep getting upgraded
8/9/2026 10:16:43 PM EDT
[#12]
5.56 is the B52 of bullets.
callmenoshie: "saying that females have the potential to be "bat shit crazy" is like saying the sky has the potential to be blue."
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8/10/2026 2:12:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
5.56 is the B52 of bullets.
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7.62x54R
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
8/10/2026 5:36:52 AM EDT
[#14]
This is the future for sure.

The military has put forward a request to upgrade the lethality of the AR platform with the new 855A1+ high velocity ammo.

Advancements is barrel steel is allowing extremely high pressures.

The Aramad (sp) barrel in the SOLGW MK1, Surefire Hicar, Geissele are three rifles headed to the testing.

I’m curious to learn more. 855A1 is already a hot round I’d be interested in specs on the + pressures and velocity
Surprise, Speed and Violence of Action
8/10/2026 5:30:46 PM EDT
[#15]
I’m definitely interested in how the HICAR program progresses, and it definitely makes more sense than the welfare program for Sig… That said, some calibers don’t fair well in the accuracy department when pushed with too much velocity. I hope this doesn’t fall into that category.
8/10/2026 6:13:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Very interested to get one of these HICAR uppers, any brand.  My 12.5 Super Duty is getting 2750 out of the badlands 77gr OTM Nas3 stuff, but would prefer to use an upper and bolt built for it
8/10/2026 6:20:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sticman77:
Very interested to get one of these HICAR uppers, any brand.  My 12.5 Super Duty is getting 2750 out of the badlands 77gr OTM Nas3 stuff, but would prefer to use an upper and bolt built for it
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My criterion is getting the same.

I have about 7k rounds of nas3 through this current barrel, total round count of around 10k. If we say the first notch on the throat erosion gage is '1' im about 2.5 right now. So basically im not showing any accelerated wear on parts so far.
8/10/2026 6:38:19 PM EDT
[#18]
What's to prevent a random Joe from getting a hold of these HICAR rounds and running them through their standard plain Jane M4 rifle?

Seems that the ICAR receiver at least forces you to a different form factor.

Ultra high pressure 5.56 ammo seems like a recipe to blow up some rifles.
8/10/2026 6:42:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cmeyer001:
What's to prevent a random Joe from getting a hold of these HICAR rounds and running them through their standard plain Jane M4 rifle?

Seems that the ICAR receiver at least forces you to a different form factor.

Ultra high pressure 5.56 ammo seems like a recipe to blow up some rifles.
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The round case itself is the most important piece of that. The rifles should be able to handle the increased pressures as long as the case keeps together and pushes the energy forward.
8/10/2026 6:48:24 PM EDT
[#20]
INTKB
"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
8/10/2026 7:15:29 PM EDT
[#21]
The HICAR program is from SOCOM. They needed a rifle upper that can handle the m855a1+ due to the pressure. They had criteria that include ability to handle the pressure of the round, it had to be in 5.56 due to the amount of ammunition throughout the world, a SOF soldier can’t do a battlefield pickup of ammo of the new calibers, and it had to be able to fit the M4 platform, plus a few others. You can fire the high pressure round in your rifle, but it may not end well.
8/10/2026 11:14:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:

My criterion is getting the same.

I have about 7k rounds of nas3 through this current barrel, total round count of around 10k. If we say the first notch on the throat erosion gage is '1' im about 2.5 right now. So basically im not showing any accelerated wear on parts so far.
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Oh that’s actually really good to hear.  I only bought 200 to try out and it’s very consistent and accurate.  Now I’m waiting for tmk’s to get in stock before I buy a ton.

Bolt lugs seem ok too?  I’m less worried with the G$ bolt
8/10/2026 11:43:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

7.62x54R
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maybe in countries that dont matter.
callmenoshie: "saying that females have the potential to be "bat shit crazy" is like saying the sky has the potential to be blue."
XCRmonger: "I've seen German Shit Porn that was sexier."
8/11/2026 12:05:17 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By sticman77:


Oh that’s actually really good to hear.  I only bought 200 to try out and it’s very consistent and accurate.  Now I’m waiting for tmk’s to get in stock before I buy a ton.

Bolt lugs seem ok too?  I’m less worried with the G$ bolt
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Originally Posted By sticman77:
Originally Posted By hoody2shoez:

My criterion is getting the same.

I have about 7k rounds of nas3 through this current barrel, total round count of around 10k. If we say the first notch on the throat erosion gage is '1' im about 2.5 right now. So basically im not showing any accelerated wear on parts so far.


Oh that’s actually really good to hear.  I only bought 200 to try out and it’s very consistent and accurate.  Now I’m waiting for tmk’s to get in stock before I buy a ton.

Bolt lugs seem ok too?  I’m less worried with the G$ bolt

I haven't ran into issues. I have a jp bolt. Ymmv
8/11/2026 6:55:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Very interesting. I wonder what would happen if you shot that ammo out of a standard AR.
8/11/2026 10:37:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Obligatory

8/27/2026 10:34:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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