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5/23/2014 1:57:49 PM EDT
I understand the benefits of freefloating a handguard/barrel. But on the AR platform, with the gas tube being pinned to a gas block that's connected to the barrel does that not make it non-freefloated?
5/23/2014 2:10:05 PM EDT
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I understand the benefits of freefloating a handguard/barrel. But on the AR platform, with the gas tube being pinned to a gas block that's connected to the barrel does that not make it non-freefloated?
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There's more than just understanding the "benefits" of free floating. Free floating a barrel is a method to reduce inconsistent forces acting on the barrel to increase shot-to-shot consistency. For example, a shooter may apply a different amount of downward force onto his bipod between two different shots, or he may take one shot from the bipod and the next shot from a crouched or kneeling position. These changes impart different forces on the barrel, and if it's not free floated, it WILL change the point of impact. Even a small force on the barrel can deflect it enough to miss your target. If you have a free floated barrel, try pulling on the barrel some time, you'll see the barrel move relative to the handguard/rail.

So, free floated applies directly to whatever part of the stock or handguard that you would hold or rest on a bag or bipod and the barrel. You do not put any weight or force on the gas tube or gas block, whatever force (probably from gravity) that acts on those parts is exactly (in theory) the same for the first shot as it is for the hundredth shot.  So, since it they play no part in how you hold your rifle, they are not considered when it comes to determining what "is" and "is not" free floated.
5/23/2014 2:14:11 PM EDT
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There's more than just understanding the "benefits" of free floating. Free floating a barrel is a method to reduce inconsistent forces acting on the barrel to increase shot-to-shot consistency. For example, a shooter may apply a different amount of downward force onto his bipod between two different shots, or he may take one shot from the bipod and the next shot from a crouched or kneeling position. These changes impart different forces on the barrel, and if it's not free floated, it WILL change the point of impact. Even a small force on the barrel can deflect it enough to miss your target. If you have a free floated barrel, try pulling on the barrel some time, you'll see the barrel move relative to the handguard/rail.

So, free floated applies directly to whatever part of the stock or handguard that you would hold or rest on a bag or bipod and the barrel. You do not put any weight or force on the gas tube or gas block, whatever force (probably from gravity) that acts on those parts is exactly (in theory) the same for the first shot as it is for the hundredth shot.  So, since it they play no part in how you hold your rifle, they are not considered when it comes to determining what "is" and "is not" free floated.
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I understand the benefits of freefloating a handguard/barrel. But on the AR platform, with the gas tube being pinned to a gas block that's connected to the barrel does that not make it non-freefloated?

There's more than just understanding the "benefits" of free floating. Free floating a barrel is a method to reduce inconsistent forces acting on the barrel to increase shot-to-shot consistency. For example, a shooter may apply a different amount of downward force onto his bipod between two different shots, or he may take one shot from the bipod and the next shot from a crouched or kneeling position. These changes impart different forces on the barrel, and if it's not free floated, it WILL change the point of impact. Even a small force on the barrel can deflect it enough to miss your target. If you have a free floated barrel, try pulling on the barrel some time, you'll see the barrel move relative to the handguard/rail.

So, free floated applies directly to whatever part of the stock or handguard that you would hold or rest on a bag or bipod and the barrel. You do not put any weight or force on the gas tube or gas block, whatever force (probably from gravity) that acts on those parts is exactly (in theory) the same for the first shot as it is for the hundredth shot.  So, since it they play no part in how you hold your rifle, they are not considered when it comes to determining what "is" and "is not" free floated.



I had a feeling that would be the case, just wanted to be sure. Thanks.
5/23/2014 2:44:15 PM EDT
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5/23/2014 10:32:26 PM EDT
[#4]
It's not "truly" freefloated, but as freefloated as a gas-operated rifle will get.
5/25/2014 7:56:36 AM EDT
[#5]
You could always make it a single shot.
5/25/2014 8:41:36 AM EDT
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The back of the gas tube is technically "floating" where it passes through the front of the upper receiver.  It is not secured at that location.  The clover leaf shaped hole in the receiver is larger than the outside diameter of the gas tube to allow it to "float" and align with the gas key on the carrier when the carrier assembly is moving toward the most forward position.
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