Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
AR Sponsor
2/17/2016 2:01:16 AM EDT
I'm trying to be unique with my next build and am looking at the fostech echo trigger. Does it seem justifiable to buy at that price or just useless? Also, if I chose to go that route, should I get a nicer bcg? I have been looking at salient arms and they look pretty nice. Any input would be appreciated.
2/17/2016 2:21:15 AM EDT
[#1]
It's not out yet, so it's hard to say if it's worth it. No one has tested/reviewed it yet (I don't think there's even a price estimate out yet).
2/22/2016 9:06:39 AM EDT
[#2]
From the Fostech website:

THE ECHO TRIGGER IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ONLY ON A PRE-ORDER BASIS.
BY PLACING YOUR DEPOSIT ON THE ECHO TRIGGER YOU ARE SECURING YOUR PLACE IN LINE.  THE REMAINING BALANCE WILL BE DUE WHEN YOUR ECHO TRIGGER IS READY TO SHIP.  ECHO TRIGGERS ARE CURRENTLY ESTIMATED TO START SHIPPING IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2016.

Deposit is $200

2/22/2016 11:47:15 AM EDT
[#3]
Too many proven great triggers out there to spend that kind of money on one that's untested.
2/22/2016 11:53:27 AM EDT
[#4]
I have the Frankford Binary trigger, if you want to shoot fast the binary/echo mode will let it fly.  You can achieve true full auto rates with ease.  It's also controllable from the shoulder like a full auto is.



I haven't gotten to try the Echo yet, if they implemented a method to prevent hammer follow, then it will be an awesome trigger.




With Frankford you have to keep cycle speed of the bcg faster than you can pull/release the trigger.  That appears to be about 950RPM.  I use a light weight carrier and sprinco Orange spring to keep my cycle speed high and foster the reliability I want.




Here is mine running the Frankford trigger.













PS. Reliability can be hindered by loose gas key screws, lol.
4/21/2016 6:44:06 AM EDT
[#5]
I've been told some would ship next month??? and they have big expectations for them to sell out fast??
I think they are on the pricy side...  but got my name in the pot for some of the 1st shipment...
time will tell...
4/21/2016 9:27:06 AM EDT
[#6]
I'd love to put one on a dedicated 9 lmm lower.  Does anyone know if there would be comparability issues?
4/21/2016 9:30:03 AM EDT
[#7]

Quote History
Quoted:


I'd love to put one on a dedicated 9 lmm lower.  Does anyone know if there would be comparability issues?
View Quote
As long as the carrier is M16 cut I think it will work great.

 
4/21/2016 6:05:34 PM EDT
[#8]
A Sig MPX would be a fun host, but for some darn reason Franklin Armory won't sell to OR, I have no idea why. We can have all the NFA toys here but for some reason we can't have this trigger.
4/21/2016 6:11:00 PM EDT
[#9]

Quote History
Quoted:


A Sig MPX would be a fun host, but for some darn reason Franklin Armory won't sell to OR, I have no idea why. We can have all the NFA toys here but for some reason we can't have this trigger.
View Quote
Has to do with the wording of the state machine gun laws. They are illegal there.

 
4/21/2016 6:17:39 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote History
Quoted:
A Sig MPX would be a fun host, but for some darn reason Franklin Armory won't sell to OR, I have no idea why. We can have all the NFA toys here but for some reason we can't have this trigger.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
A Sig MPX would be a fun host, but for some darn reason Franklin Armory won't sell to OR, I have no idea why. We can have all the NFA toys here but for some reason we can't have this trigger.


think its due to loose translation of machine gun in your state.

Quoted:
Oregon - 166.210 (6)  Machine gun means a weapon of  any description by whatever name known, loaded or unloaded, which is designed or modified to allow two or more shots to be fired by a single pressure on the trigger device.
<snip>




single pressure...being pull& release

fix your state  or move to a mostly free one  
4/21/2016 6:37:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote History
Quoted:
I have the Frankford Binary trigger, if you want to shoot fast the binary/echo mode will let it fly.  You can achieve true full auto rates with ease.  It's also controllable from the shoulder like a full auto is.

I haven't gotten to try the Echo yet, if they implemented a method to prevent hammer follow, then it will be an awesome trigger.


With Frankford you have to keep cycle speed of the bcg faster than you can pull/release the trigger.  That appears to be about 950RPM.  I use a light weight carrier and sprinco Orange spring to keep my cycle speed high and foster the reliability I want.


Here is mine running the Frankford trigger.
https://youtu.be/NaumdeRsQns

https://youtu.be/OAe1dqg1yeg

https://youtu.be/t9O5NAHCp7Y



PS. Reliability can be hindered by loose gas key screws, lol.
View Quote


There are some reviews on YouTube for it and it appears that they did fix the follow through with some sort of governor on it. Although it is almost $500.
4/21/2016 9:38:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote History
Quoted:


There are some reviews on YouTube for it and it appears that they did fix the follow through with some sort of governor on it. Although it is almost $500. VS. $15 - 20,000 for a RR M-16
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have the Frankford Binary trigger, if you want to shoot fast the binary/echo mode will let it fly.  You can achieve true full auto rates with ease.  It's also controllable from the shoulder like a full auto is.

I haven't gotten to try the Echo yet, if they implemented a method to prevent hammer follow, then it will be an awesome trigger.


With Frankford you have to keep cycle speed of the bcg faster than you can pull/release the trigger.  That appears to be about 950RPM.  I use a light weight carrier and sprinco Orange spring to keep my cycle speed high and foster the reliability I want.


Here is mine running the Frankford trigger.
https://youtu.be/NaumdeRsQns

https://youtu.be/OAe1dqg1yeg

https://youtu.be/t9O5NAHCp7Y



PS. Reliability can be hindered by loose gas key screws, lol.


There are some reviews on YouTube for it and it appears that they did fix the follow through with some sort of governor on it. Although it is almost $500. VS. $15 - 20,000 for a RR M-16

4/21/2016 10:45:44 PM EDT
[#13]
I too also am waiting in line for this trigger.
4/22/2016 3:11:50 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote History
Quoted:
Has to do with the wording of the state machine gun laws. They are illegal there.  
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Quote History
Quoted:
Quoted:
A Sig MPX would be a fun host, but for some darn reason Franklin Armory won't sell to OR, I have no idea why. We can have all the NFA toys here but for some reason we can't have this trigger.
Has to do with the wording of the state machine gun laws. They are illegal there.  


Kind of odd since there's a big machine gun shoot in Albany every year and I know of a few people with full auto.

ETA: I guess the wording of the law states that this trigger qualifies as full auto, which is regulated.
AR Sponsor