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I bought two B5 SOPMOD stocks, much like the LMT SOPMODs however they will not fit over a commercial or milspec tube due to the tight fit of them. I've thought of taking a cylinder hone and open them up to make them work but does anyone have any other ideas?? Does anyone know they diameter of both size tubes??
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. Man did I hit a nerve or what He must own one. I dont give a rats ass about any so called contract Just my take |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. Man did I hit a nerve or what He must own one. I dont give a rats ass about any so called contract Just my take Wow, you must be able to read, since I posted above that I have one. Have one from LMT too...but it's clear you're just talking out of your ass. Typical? |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. Man did I hit a nerve or what He must own one. I dont give a rats ass about any so called contract Just my take Wow, you must be able to read, since I posted above that I have one. Have one from LMT too...but it's clear you're just talking out of your ass. Typical? do you really have to start with the insults |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. Man did I hit a nerve or what He must own one. I dont give a rats ass about any so called contract Just my take Wow, you must be able to read, since I posted above that I have one. Have one from LMT too...but it's clear you're just talking out of your ass. Typical? do you really have to start with the insults I'm just asking, since it's crystal clear you made a comment without an iota of knowledge about the subject at hand. |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. Man did I hit a nerve or what He must own one. I dont give a rats ass about any so called contract Just my take Wow, you must be able to read, since I posted above that I have one. Have one from LMT too...but it's clear you're just talking out of your ass. Typical? do you really have to start with the insults I'm just asking, since it's crystal clear you made a comment without an iota of knowledge about the subject at hand. If you do some searching you find a topic I gave about a year or more ago about the knock off SOPMOD I wish I had a dollar everytime someone bitch about it not fitting there extension Ive been here for a long time now. im pretty sure I know about the fake SOPMOD or the LMT SOPMOD suppsoe to be made by KAC Now I stand by what I said IT A KNOCKOFF WITH PROBLEMS |
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These weren't knock offs, must have come DRMO. I didn't spend too much on them but I also don't have the cash to piss away. then what you you call it Ive read the warning over a year ago at the LMT website looks like a knockoff to me. anyway I will let the MODS take it from here |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs You do realize that B5 has a govt contract to produce these stocks for SOCOM, right? You do realize the reason the first batch they produced had fit issues b/c the govt supplied incorrect specs, right? Or are you just talking out of your ass? Unfortunately, lots of stocks from the first batch B5 made, that WERE out of spec, got DRMO'd and ended up on the third party market. If you bought from reliable vendor like AIM Surplus, Rifle Gear, Rally Point Tactical, Rainier Arms, you should be GTG. At any rate, they're a good bargain...or at least a better bargain... than the incredibly overpriced LMT version IMO. Man did I hit a nerve or what He must own one. I dont give a rats ass about any so called contract Just my take Wow, you must be able to read, since I posted above that I have one. Have one from LMT too...but it's clear you're just talking out of your ass. Typical? do you really have to start with the insults I'm just asking, since it's crystal clear you made a comment without an iota of knowledge about the subject at hand. If you do some searching you find a topic I gave about a year or more ago about the knock off SOPMOD I wish I had a dollar everytime someone bitch about it not fitting there extension Ive been here for a long time now. im pretty sure I know about the fake SOPMOD or the LMT SOPMOD suppsoe to be made by KAC Now I stand by what I said IT A KNOCKOFF WITH PROBLEMS You're a year behind, catch up please... |
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These weren't knock offs, must have come DRMO. I didn't spend too much on them but I also don't have the cash to piss away. then what you you call it Ive read the warning over a year ago at the LMT website looks like a knockoff to me. anyway I will let the MODS take it from here Have you been to a DRMO?? Pretty sure they don't sell knock off shit. Also because LMT says so makes it one right? Nice of you to call in the MODs on this since I asked a simple question to begin with |
| Coincidentally, I ordered one today. I was originally looking at the LMT. After reading a half of dozen user reviews and a few youtube videos I went with the B5 for half the price. The reviews were good and the two stocks seem comparable. I will follow up after I receive it and give it a test drive. |
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I bought a B5 from ROG Tactical about a month ago and it fit on my Colt 6920. Is a little snug towards the first position but it's loosened fairly well with just moving it back and forth.
Though it's a little snug, I had absolutely no problem putting it on the receiver extension. |
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For the record, the B5 stock is not a knockoff. It is a made to spec SOPMOD stock used by the .mil and sold commercially. The current production is almost indistinguishable from LMT's, uses the same material, and functions exactly the same. One can not like the B5 stocks if one wants, but it is simply wrong to call them knockoffs.
*I do not own a B5 stock, but I do have a 1st gen LMT. |
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I bought two B5 SOPMOD stocks, much like the LMT SOPMODs however they will not fit over a commercial or milspec tube due to the tight fit of them. I've thought of taking a cylinder hone and open them up to make them work but does anyone have any other ideas?? Does anyone know they diameter of both size tubes?? Thanks! First off, NOT A KNOCK OFF. B5 has a current contract and supplies the mil with these stocks. I have seen these issued and installed right out the pretty blue bag. So, just because it isn't made by LMT doesn't make it a knockoff, because if it does, then one can argue that the LMT is a knockoff since it isn't a sloping cheekweld stock made in house by Crane right? So lets end this shit here. Anyway, OP you must have bought one that is out of spec. IIRC, when the request went out, the measurements provided to B5 were incorrect. The market was flooded with these soon after the mil started issuing them. So if you buy a mil version (w/o QD swivel adptr) from some of the known auction sites, you run a huge risk of buying a busted stock. The second generation and the civilian version (with QD adptr) don't have these problems, and in my opinion they are physically and functionally equal to the LMT's at a lower price. There should be some light resistance from the stock when sliding it on, but it should be able to move freely with minimal force when adjusting it. If it's hard to put on and wont slide, it's out of spec. Increasing the diameter will help, but most of the out of spec stocks also had a longer lock pin, which would leave you with a loose release lever when the stock was locked in place. I vote we lock this so it doesnt turn into a dumbass debate 
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I bought two B5 SOPMOD stocks, much like the LMT SOPMODs however they will not fit over a commercial or milspec tube due to the tight fit of them. I've thought of taking a cylinder hone and open them up to make them work but does anyone have any other ideas?? Does anyone know they diameter of both size tubes?? Thanks! First off, NOT A KNOCK OFF. B5 has a current contract and supplies the mil with these stocks. I have seen these issued and installed right out the pretty blue bag. So, just because it isn't made by LMT doesn't make it a knockoff, because if it does, then one can argue that the LMT is a knockoff since it isn't a sloping cheekweld stock made in house by Crane right? So lets end this shit here. Anyway, OP you must have bought one that is out of spec. IIRC, when the request went out, the measurements provided to B5 were incorrect. The market was flooded with these soon after the mil started issuing them. So if you buy a mil version (w/o QD swivel adptr) from some of the known auction sites, you run a huge risk of buying a busted stock. The second generation and the civilian version (with QD adptr) don't have these problems, and in my opinion they are physically and functionally equal to the LMT's at a lower price. There should be some light resistance from the stock when sliding it on, but it should be able to move freely with minimal force when adjusting it. If it's hard to put on and wont slide, it's out of spec. Increasing the diameter will help, but most of the out of spec stocks also had a longer lock pin, which would leave you with a loose release lever when the stock was locked in place. I vote we lock this so it doesnt turn into a dumbass debate
/thread B5s are real SOPMOD stocks for half the price of LMTs. Lunchbox is right. The first non-QD socket batch made for the military is out of spec and got out on market through DRMO instead of being destroyed. Avoid those and buy a new one with a QD socket from a reputable online dealer. |
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Okay I admitt Im off base I use to think a knockoff was a copy of a original product , always cheaper and not the same quality . I guess I should of used a different word The LMT stock is a copy of the original stock. LMT won the original sole contract to produce the Crane-designed stock. B5 won a contract as well relatively recently. Their stock is made to the same spec as the LMT. Having held both side by side, it is very difficult to notice any real difference. The quality of the current run of B5 stocks is no different than the LMT stocks. So just stop. |
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Okay I admitt Im off base I use to think a knockoff was a copy of a original product , always cheaper and not the same quality . I guess I should of used a different word The LMT stock is a copy of the original stock. LMT won the original sole contract to produce the Crane-designed stock. B5 won a contract as well relatively recently. Their stock is made to the same spec as the LMT. Having held both side by side, it is very difficult to notice any real difference. The quality of the current run of B5 stocks is no different than the LMT stocks. Can you show me proof that the B5 is made to exact specs as the LMT SOPMOD and made of the exact same type of plastic so I can better educate myself ! |
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If they were not made to the same specs/standards they would of never been awarded the government contract. We use the Gen II B5 stocks and they are pretty nice although I've seen a couple instances where the QD socket wasn't machined properly on one side and a QD wouldn't stay in place. The finish on the B5 is slightly rougher than the LMT but they are night and day better than the Chinese SOPMODS that use to flood the market. With that said, the LMT stock that's manufactured by KAC IS a nicer stock, but it's also over priced (for what it is). I believe the quality of the B5 will continue to get better as time moves along. |
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If they were not made to the same specs/standards they would of never been awarded the government contract. We use the Gen II B5 stocks and they are pretty nice although I've seen a couple instances where the QD socket wasn't machined properly on one side and a QD wouldn't stay in place. The finish on the B5 is slightly rougher than the LMT but they are night and day better than the Chinese SOPMODS that use to flood the market. With that said, the LMT stock that's manufactured by KAC IS a nicer stock, but it's also over priced (for what it is). I believe the quality of the B5 will continue to get better as time moves along. Could be. I agree the KAC LMT SOPMOD is a nicer stock. Cant government contracts call for all sorts of things ! Its not a Military contract right. for instance I happen to have had a email from LMT saying they fill government contracts with 4140. I notice he didn't say military contracts. Also on the bottom of the letter stated if I disclose it I will be in big trouble. 
I wonder if Forest remembers the conversation Its has been a long time . Anyways thanks for your info |
| I always wanted a SOPMOD but refused to the pay $200 for a chunk of plastic. I picked up the Gen II B5 from aimsurplus for half that and love it. Fits snug with no slop. I did have to adjust the locking pin on the stock when I got it as it was set too long and caused a slight rattle. It was easy enough to tighten a couple turns and the rattle is gone. |
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I always wanted a SOPMOD but refused to the pay $200 for a chunk of plastic. I picked up the Gen II B5 from aimsurplus for half that and love it. Fits snug with no slop. I did have to adjust the locking pin on the stock when I got it as it was set too long and caused a slight rattle. It was easy enough to tighten a couple turns and the rattle is gone. My Gen I had the same problem. I had hoped it had been corrected by now. |
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I always wanted a SOPMOD but refused to the pay $200 for a chunk of plastic. I picked up the Gen II B5 from aimsurplus for half that and love it. Fits snug with no slop. I did have to adjust the locking pin on the stock when I got it as it was set too long and caused a slight rattle. It was easy enough to tighten a couple turns and the rattle is gone. My Gen I had the same problem. I had hoped it had been corrected by now. So it seems they still have some problems 
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I always wanted a SOPMOD but refused to the pay $200 for a chunk of plastic. I picked up the Gen II B5 from aimsurplus for half that and love it. Fits snug with no slop. I did have to adjust the locking pin on the stock when I got it as it was set too long and caused a slight rattle. It was easy enough to tighten a couple turns and the rattle is gone. My Gen I had the same problem. I had hoped it had been corrected by now. So it seems they still have some problems
Although my B5 was fine out of the packaging, I'd rather spend 3 seconds turning the pin then pay someone at LMT $100 to take 3 seconds to make it perfect.
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I always wanted a SOPMOD but refused to the pay $200 for a chunk of plastic. I picked up the Gen II B5 from aimsurplus for half that and love it. Fits snug with no slop. I did have to adjust the locking pin on the stock when I got it as it was set too long and caused a slight rattle. It was easy enough to tighten a couple turns and the rattle is gone. My Gen I had the same problem. I had hoped it had been corrected by now. So it seems they still have some problems
Although my B5 was fine out of the packaging, I'd rather spend 3 seconds turning the pin then pay someone at LMT $100 to take 3 seconds to make it perfect. If all you had to do was turn then pin then they forgot some steps. like installing the roll pin
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I always wanted a SOPMOD but refused to the pay $200 for a chunk of plastic. I picked up the Gen II B5 from aimsurplus for half that and love it. Fits snug with no slop. I did have to adjust the locking pin on the stock when I got it as it was set too long and caused a slight rattle. It was easy enough to tighten a couple turns and the rattle is gone. My Gen I had the same problem. I had hoped it had been corrected by now. So it seems they still have some problems
Plenty of manufacturers have some teething problems when churning out the quantities of product it sometimes takes to fulfill a DoD contract. You don't happen to work for LMT do you? |
| So you know, we use milspec materials, and its an Army contract. Since that contract is DoD Fed LE can order them from supply same as rest of military. Have we had a few missteps since we started, yes, have we made improvements because of them, yes. If you like our stock buy it if you don't, don't but please refrain from speaking about things you don't know. These stocks are in use by lots of special people who do extra special things. If you buy one of our stocks and you have a problem let us know and well make it right. Have a question, ask. |
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So you know, we use milspec materials, and its an Army contract. Since that contract is DoD Fed LE can order them from supply same as rest of military. Have we had a few missteps since we started, yes, have we made improvements because of them, yes. If you like our stock buy it if you don't, don't but please refrain from speaking about things you don't know. These stocks are in use by lots of special people who do extra special things. If you buy one of our stocks and you have a problem let us know and well make it right. Have a question, ask. Will you be releasing the B5 stock in the darker brown that KAC/LMT uses? 
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So you know, we use milspec materials, and its an Army contract. Since that contract is DoD Fed LE can order them from supply same as rest of military. Have we had a few missteps since we started, yes, have we made improvements because of them, yes. If you like our stock buy it if you don't, don't but please refrain from speaking about things you don't know. These stocks are in use by lots of special people who do extra special things. If you buy one of our stocks and you have a problem let us know and well make it right. Have a question, ask. I don't suppose by chance you are Keller are you? Someone said you guys might replace stocks that don't fit right? |
| If you have an issue with a stock that has the Quick Disconnect feature we will repair/replace any deffective part. If you have one of the defective military stocks then we cannot repair or replace because those stocks were to be destroyed. The military stocks were never to be released on the open or civilian market. The defective stocks in question were made to incorrect specifications as provided to us by the Army. We actually redesigned the military stock when the problem was discovered. We further refined the design and incorporated improvements to our Enhanced Sopmod Stock. We have many military units opting to purchase the Enhanced Sopmod instead of the Military version they can get through supply because they prefer our version. |
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Thats what happens when you buy knock offs Ya dude, not a knock off what so ever. Design was came up with by NSWC Crane and was then contracted out to LMT to be manufactured in large quantities. From what I gather LMT couldn't keep up with the demand so they outsourced to another company to produce the same exact buttstock built using the same exact specs. Happens alot in the military. Did you know that not all KAC rail panels and VFG are actually manufactured by KAC? They even have different manufacturer marking on them, so ya the military did the same thing with those products as they did with the SOPMOD buttstock. Also for the record, I don't own a B5 or LMT SOPMOD buttstock. ETA: Damn, I need to read through entire threads before posting. |
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So you know, we use milspec materials, and its an Army contract. Since that contract is DoD Fed LE can order them from supply same as rest of military. Have we had a few missteps since we started, yes, have we made improvements because of them, yes. If you like our stock buy it if you don't, don't but please refrain from speaking about things you don't know. These stocks are in use by lots of special people who do extra special things. If you buy one of our stocks and you have a problem let us know and well make it right. Have a question, ask. This one was out of spec they will not replace/repair it. I'll have to chalk these up as a loss and lesson learned. |
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