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1/7/2010 12:44:50 PM EDT
I just recently purchased an Eotech 516 and I was wondering who all has to wear prescription lenses, while using.  I have glasses but I'm thinking about getting some contacts.  I was wondering what's everyone's take on this.  I do have a astigmatism.
1/7/2010 1:26:08 PM EDT
[#1]
I wear contacts 1 of them is for astigmatism. The reticle looks a bit fuzzy without them. Focusing on the taret instead of the red dot helps aleviate some of the fuzzyness. With contacts the 1MOA dot is perfect and the outer ring is as sharp.
1/7/2010 1:57:58 PM EDT
[#2]
I wear glasses & have that astigmatism thing too. I actually have really bad eyes. I'm ok but my eyes do get tired after a bit of time shooting.
I am able to use both eyes open but I had to train my eyes for it.
1/7/2010 2:17:31 PM EDT
[#3]
I wear contacts, -1 in my right eye, -.75 in my left. I am near-sighted, so shooting anything further than 25 yards is a no go with no magnification. My contacts make the reticle MUCH clearer.
1/8/2010 11:29:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the info.  I don't feel along out there know wearing glasses or thinking about getting contacts.
1/8/2010 11:43:05 AM EDT
[#5]
used to wear contacts (astigmatisms in both eyes) and had lasik about 4 years ago.  Best money I ever spent, and my shooting is much better for it too.
1/8/2010 7:22:46 PM EDT
[#6]
I was just wondering how does a magnifier affect your vision, while using the eotech.  I don't wear my glasses while using my other scoped rifles, just wondering.
1/8/2010 8:36:10 PM EDT
[#7]
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I was just wondering how does a magnifier affect your vision, while using the eotech.  I don't wear my glasses while using my other scoped rifles, just wondering.


I have been a Aimpoint or EOTech guy since the front post on my irons became blurry (old eyes).  I have two Aimpoints and 9 EOtech 512s and love them all.  A few years ago I bought two Eotech 3X multipliers and a 4X, all with FTS mounts.  I wear glasses and have no problem with the sights but the magnifers magnify the recitle and you don't get a nice round sharp dot.  I can use the 1X sights out to 200 yards w/o the magnifiers.  Now If I want to go out farther I will scope the rifle.  This year I have to get a place to shoot out to 400+ yards with the magnifier and see what happens.  I am more accurate at 150-200 yards with just the sight. I think I will be selling the magnifiers soon.  
1/8/2010 8:36:27 PM EDT
[#8]
sorry, hit  submit twice
1/9/2010 11:31:01 AM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for the information BStock.  Let me know if you decide to part with one of your magnafiers.
1/9/2010 12:02:22 PM EDT
[#10]
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Thanks for the information BStock.  Let me know if you decide to part with one of your magnafiers.



Will do.
1/9/2010 6:03:40 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
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I was just wondering how does a magnifier affect your vision, while using the eotech.  I don't wear my glasses while using my other scoped rifles, just wondering.


I have been a Aimpoint or EOTech guy since the front post on my irons became blurry (old eyes).  I have two Aimpoints and 9 EOtech 512s and love them all.  A few years ago I bought two Eotech 3X multipliers and a 4X, all with FTS mounts.  I wear glasses and have no problem with the sights but the magnifers magnify the recitle and you don't get a nice round sharp dot.  I can use the 1X sights out to 200 yards w/o the magnifiers.  Now If I want to go out farther I will scope the rifle.  This year I have to get a place to shoot out to 400+ yards with the magnifier and see what happens.  I am more accurate at 150-200 yards with just the sight. I think I will be selling the magnifiers soon.  


Eotech claims their magnifier will not magnify the dot only the target profile. Someone else on here told me the aimpint 3x will not change the Eotech reticle size either ..Now I'm confused..

I have also seen screen shots of the reticle through the magnifier and it didn't look different then at 1X...I wonder if its your glassses doing that?
1/9/2010 7:24:14 PM EDT
[#12]
I also wear contacts, but most of my AR shooting is done with an ACOG..... both eyes open. The EoTech is on a spare AR and I see the reticle and target fine, even w/ astigmatism.
1/9/2010 9:00:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Revised post a few down.
1/9/2010 9:05:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
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I was just wondering how does a magnifier affect your vision, while using the eotech.  I don't wear my glasses while using my other scoped rifles, just wondering.


I have been a Aimpoint or EOTech guy since the front post on my irons became blurry (old eyes).  I have two Aimpoints and 9 EOtech 512s and love them all.  A few years ago I bought two Eotech 3X multipliers and a 4X, all with FTS mounts.  I wear glasses and have no problem with the sights but the magnifers magnify the recitle and you don't get a nice round sharp dot.  I can use the 1X sights out to 200 yards w/o the magnifiers.  Now If I want to go out farther I will scope the rifle.  This year I have to get a place to shoot out to 400+ yards with the magnifier and see what happens.  I am more accurate at 150-200 yards with just the sight. I think I will be selling the magnifiers soon.  


Eotech claims their magnifier will not magnify the dot only the target profile. Someone else on here told me the aimpint 3x will not change the Eotech reticle size either ..Now I'm confused..

Could be the glasses.  My son says he see the dot undistorted, just perfect through the magnifier.  Probably these dated eyes.  
I have also seen screen shots of the reticle through the magnifier and it didn't look different then at 1X...I wonder if its your glassses doing that?


Thanx for the clarification.  Gotta love getting old



1/9/2010 9:34:10 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
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I was just wondering how does a magnifier affect your vision, while using the eotech.  I don't wear my glasses while using my other scoped rifles, just wondering.


I have been a Aimpoint or EOTech guy since the front post on my irons became blurry (old eyes).  I have two Aimpoints and 9 EOtech 512s and love them all.  A few years ago I bought two Eotech 3X multipliers and a 4X, all with FTS mounts.  I wear glasses and have no problem with the sights but the magnifiers magnify the recitle and you don't get a nice round sharp dot.  I can use the 1X sights out to 200 yards w/o the magnifiers.  Now If I want to go out farther I will scope the rifle.  This year I have to get a place to shoot out to 400+ yards with the magnifier and see what happens.  I am more accurate at 150-200 yards with just the sight. I think I will be selling the magnifiers soon.  


Eotech claims their magnifier will not magnify the dot only the target profile. Someone else on here told me the aimpint 3x will not change the Eotech reticle size either ..Now I'm confused..

I have also seen screen shots of the reticle through the magnifier and it didn't look different then at 1X...I wonder if its your glasses doing that?


Could be the glasses. My son says he see the dot undistorted, just perfect through the magnifier. Probably these dated eyes.  I will try to take a pic through the reticle tomorrow & I will post it.  The only way I will be able to tell is if I photograph the magnified reticle and look at it in picture form.  I have to go to the optometrist later this month so I think I will bring in a AR10 with the aimpoint & magnifier and ask him to modify my glasses to accommodate any fuzziness.  On second thought I think I will just take a rail with the sight and magnifer mounted and leave the AR10 home.  Don't want to clear out his offfice.

1/10/2010 6:52:58 AM EDT
[#16]
I've used an Eotech with the Aimpoint 3x magnifier, and the reticle was magnified as well as the target.
1/10/2010 8:42:27 AM EDT
[#17]
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I've used an Eotech with the Aimpoint 3x magnifier, and the reticle was magnified as well as the target.


Before I bought my magnifiers I heard that the reticle was not magnified but after using them I can say they are.  You are correct brgator.

1/10/2010 9:49:11 AM EDT
[#18]
Sorry but I could not get any pics through the sight or magnifier.  I did change to my reading glasses and to my surprise the dot was not distorted.  I am afaird the distortion is my eyesight.  Too bad because they would be great for 300+ yards if not for my eyes.  Oh well, got to get back to watch the Patriots get slaughtered.
1/10/2010 9:50:31 AM EDT
[#19]
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I've used an Eotech with the Aimpoint 3x magnifier, and the reticle was magnified as well as the target.


Before I bought my magnifiers I heard that the reticle was not magnified but after using them I can say they are.  You are correct brgator.



I wonder if thats also true for the Eotech G23 3X. Because they(Eotech) do state it doesnt effect the reticle. Unless I'm reading it wrong. I'm gonna Email them about it to get a confirmation. IM currently looking at magnifiers and was hoping that wouldnt be the case.
1/10/2010 10:03:38 AM EDT
[#20]
Think about it, the reticle is in front of the magnifier... The target your trying to magnify is also in front of the magnifier.

It doesn't effect the reticle because it gets magnified proportionally the same as the target. The reticle does get 3x biggger, but so does the target keeping the MOA dimension the same.

ETA:
This setup makes it a FFP. Since the first focal point is the reticle and the second would be the magnifier. The reticle will always maintain the same MOA dimensions regardless if its magnified 10x, 20x, etc.

If the reticle was behind the magnifier, it would now be a second focal plane. Where the reticle stays the same but the target will change size, throwing off the MOA dimension's of the reticle.
1/10/2010 11:03:13 AM EDT
[#21]
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Think about it, the reticle is in front of the magnifier... The target your trying to magnify is also in front of the magnifier.

It doesn't effect the reticle because it gets magnified proportionally the same as the target. The reticle does get 3x biggger, but so does the target keeping the MOA dimension the same.

ETA:
This setup makes it a FFP. Since the first focal point is the reticle and the second would be the magnifier. The reticle will always maintain the same MOA dimensions regardless if its magnified 10x, 20x, etc.

If the reticle was behind the magnifier, it would now be a second focal plane. Where the reticle stays the same but the target will change size, throwing off the MOA dimension's of the reticle.


That's what I was thinking when people keep saying it changes the reticle. It does but only purportionally in respectt to everything else. Some people make it sound as if the MOA is different . like all of a sudden there is a huge bloated reticle on the target. wich there isn't.

1/22/2010 11:36:52 AM EDT
[#22]
I'm finally headed out to the range to zero my BUIS and Eotech.
1/22/2010 2:38:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Gl and have fun. A 50 yard Zero works great and will crossover at 225. A nice flat  trajectory. I can hit a quarter sized high visibility Dot target at 50 yards using my 516 fairly consistantly now.
1/22/2010 3:24:14 PM EDT
[#24]
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Gl and have fun. A 50 yard Zero works great and will crossover at 225. A nice flat  trajectory. I can hit a quarter sized high visibility Dot target at 50 yards using my 516 fairly consistantly now.


Cool, range time was fun.  I did not have time to zero the Eotech 100%, I ran out of day light time.  I was using the POW range so I had to shut down around 1645 due to the sun starting to set.
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