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Posted: 8/5/2010 2:15:27 PM EDT
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What do you recommend for a copper cleaner for cleaning after the first few shots of a SR-15 CL Rifle (I am just following the break in procedure from Knight)
Barns CR-10 or Sweets? Also do you all use copper cleaner at all on your ar's. |
| The general consensus around here is that for a chrome-lined barrell, a "break in" procedure is pointless. Just go shoot it. When it is time time to clean the bore, I run a patch with Hoppe's solvent down it then patches until its clean. Finally a patch soaked in Weapon Sheild and you're G2G! |
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What do you recommend for a copper cleaner for cleaning after the first few shots of a SR-15 CL Rifle (I am just following the break in procedure from Knight) Barns CR-10 or Sweets? Also do you all use copper cleaner at all on your ar's. I just bought a 3oz can of Gunslick Bore Foam ! My First in 45yrs 
I remember Quib use to like Bore Foam I thought I would try it on my M4 I havent used a Bore brush Just chamber brush & Patch along with CLP I have just under 3000rds fired. Still newish Ill find out if theres any copper left. Last Time I clean it was 500rds ago So its kinda dirty |
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I have a Sabre CL i didn't break in, two Noveskes I didn't break in, and a Sabre SS barrel I did break in. I'm just going off what the manufacturer recommends. Here is what Knights sent me
"I like to clean and de-foul between 5-round groups when the barrel is new. How long you do this is a combination of patience and $ for ammo. Use the copper removing compound discussed below before you start the break in procedure. That will ensure your first rounds are running over clean steel and accomplishing the most they can. I use Shooter’s Choice for the bore because it seems to keep the copper from building up, and the copper building up is really the issue with break–in. Every 20 rounds, I use their copper remover compound per their instructions. The whole idea of this is to keep the copper in the bore at a minimum between shots so the successive bullets are smoothing the steel of the bore and not just burnishing-over the copper deposits from the previous rounds. Obviously if one looses patience during this and fires 10 or 20 round groups between cleaning the successive rounds are not accomplishing the desired task very efficiently. After about 50 rounds, your groups should be looking better and the bore noticeably easier to clean as it is getting smoother inside. Ever notice when you first wet-patch a bore how much resistance there is? And then after you bore brush it, the following wet patch slips right through? That analogy is an exaggeration of what happens during a careful break-in, but illustrates the point in a way you can actually feel. Be sure to use the bore rod guide and coated Dewey rod that comes with the kit. For Military User’s, your only issues will be ammo availability and range time. However, your big challenge might be access to Shooter’s Choice, or any of the other commercially available Copper Removing/De-Coppering products common to the match shooting trade. The Army forced us to remove the Shooter’s Choice that we normally pack in the Cleaning Kit and substitute CLP which has no known ability to address the copper build up issue. Thank you for considering Knight's Armament Company. "...finish well." David A. Lutz VP Military Operations Knight's Armament Company 701 Columbia Blvd. Titusville, FL 32780" |
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I have a Sabre CL i didn't break in, two Noveskes I didn't break in, and a Sabre SS barrel I did break in. I'm just going off what the manufacturer recommends. Here is what Knights sent me "I like to clean and de-foul between 5-round groups when the barrel is new. How long you do this is a combination of patience and $ for ammo. Use the copper removing compound discussed below before you start the break in procedure. That will ensure your first rounds are running over clean steel and accomplishing the most they can. I use Shooter’s Choice for the bore because it seems to keep the copper from building up, and the copper building up is really the issue with break–in. Every 20 rounds, I use their copper remover compound per their instructions. The whole idea of this is to keep the copper in the bore at a minimum between shots so the successive bullets are smoothing the steel of the bore and not just burnishing-over the copper deposits from the previous rounds. Obviously if one looses patience during this and fires 10 or 20 round groups between cleaning the successive rounds are not accomplishing the desired task very efficiently. After about 50 rounds, your groups should be looking better and the bore noticeably easier to clean as it is getting smoother inside. Ever notice when you first wet-patch a bore how much resistance there is? And then after you bore brush it, the following wet patch slips right through? That analogy is an exaggeration of what happens during a careful break-in, but illustrates the point in a way you can actually feel. Be sure to use the bore rod guide and coated Dewey rod that comes with the kit. For Military User’s, your only issues will be ammo availability and range time. However, your big challenge might be access to Shooter’s Choice, or any of the other commercially available Copper Removing/De-Coppering products common to the match shooting trade. The Army forced us to remove the Shooter’s Choice that we normally pack in the Cleaning Kit and substitute CLP which has no known ability to address the copper build up issue. Thank you for considering Knight's Armament Company. "...finish well." David A. Lutz VP Military Operations Knight's Armament Company 701 Columbia Blvd. Titusville, FL 32780" Was david talking about a CL barrel? There is always different ways to skin a cat 
Since you own a KAC You might try his advice! It cant hurt Good luck |
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