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1/20/2006 4:32:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Now how do we con Midwest industries into shipping their BEAUTIFUL rail up here
1/20/2006 6:10:26 PM EDT
[#2]

Originally Posted By Onslaught:

But let me ask you this.  I have a Ruger Mini-14 stainless with a Choate folder (yes, I know).  It's sole purpose is to be cabled up tight under the back seat of my pickup truck.  I've had to do all sorts of adjusting, re-learning and purchasing new mags, etc.  If I had an AR180B in place of the Mini, I could just use my AR mags.  But with the "lack of dust cover and no chrome lining", do you think the AR180B would be a good truck gun to replace the mini, or is the stainless rifle better?




I have a Mini (non-stainless) and a 180B.  I use them both (not at the same time) for trunk/truck gun.  I would not replace the Mini with the 180B, just add the 180B to your collection.

Don't pay any attention to those who claim the Mini is junk.  It is not as accurate as an AR, including the 180/180B, but it serves the trunk/truck gun role well and it will also work if you are horseback and have a rifle scabbard.
If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

Run for it??? Runnin's not a plan. No, runnin's what you do when a plan fails.

I am not LARRYG36.

AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!!!
1/20/2006 7:23:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Don't pay any attention to those who claim the Mini is junk. It is not as accurate as an AR, including the 180/180B, but it serves the trunk/truck gun role well and it will also work if you are horseback and have a rifle scabbard





You must have gotten lucky. From what most people tell me they shoot "minute of barn door" We're talking 4" @100
1/21/2006 10:57:28 PM EDT
[#4]

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By Onslaught:

But let me ask you this.  I have a Ruger Mini-14 stainless with a Choate folder (yes, I know).  It's sole purpose is to be cabled up tight under the back seat of my pickup truck.  I've had to do all sorts of adjusting, re-learning and purchasing new mags, etc.  If I had an AR180B in place of the Mini, I could just use my AR mags.  But with the "lack of dust cover and no chrome lining", do you think the AR180B would be a good truck gun to replace the mini, or is the stainless rifle better?




I have a Mini (non-stainless) and a 180B.  I use them both (not at the same time) for trunk/truck gun.  I would not replace the Mini with the 180B, just add the 180B to your collection.

Don't pay any attention to those who claim the Mini is junk.  It is not as accurate as an AR, including the 180/180B, but it serves the trunk/truck gun role well and it will also work if you are horseback and have a rifle scabbard.



Chrome isn't a deal breaker. Fact is chrome is essential if you're firing full auto. Otherwise, steel is just fine. I had Walt Kruleck from Fulton say to me one that "Chrome is for a bullet hose, steel is for accuracy" and I agree with that. The lack of a dustcover is really the only danger to an otherwise solid rifle. You might not be able to castrate a gnat with a 180Bravo, but you'll sure as hell drop the guy the gnat is buzzing around.
"You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here." ~Jayne
1/21/2006 11:56:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LARRYG][Edited] [#5]

Originally Posted By Rimfireguru:


Don't pay any attention to those who claim the Mini is junk. It is not as accurate as an AR, including the 180/180B, but it serves the trunk/truck gun role well and it will also work if you are horseback and have a rifle scabbard






You must have gotten lucky. From what most people tell me they shoot "minute of barn door"
We're talking 4" @100



That is the source of the vast majority of Mini bashing................."someone told me"............"I read on the internet"..............."I heard so and so"..............

All kinds of people bashing based on no real experience at all, just hearsay.  Not to say all who criticize have no experience, but the vast majority fit that description.
If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

Run for it??? Runnin's not a plan. No, runnin's what you do when a plan fails.

I am not LARRYG36.

AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT!!!!!
1/24/2006 6:27:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rimfireguru][Edited] [#6]

That is the source of the vast majority of Mini bashing................."someone told me"............"I read on the internet"..............."I heard so and so"..............

All kinds of people bashing based on no real experience at all, just hearsay. Not to say all who criticize have no experience, but the vast majority fit that description.



I'm not making any judgement. I wouldn't mind one but I won't say opinions that those who have owned them gave me haven't discouraged me from buying one.

From those who I have talked to that do/did indeed own one (not I heard from a friend of a friend) have not had many nice things to say about accuracy.
1/24/2006 8:27:05 PM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By Rimfireguru:

That is the source of the vast majority of Mini bashing................."someone told me"............"I read on the internet"..............."I heard so and so"..............

All kinds of people bashing based on no real experience at all, just hearsay. Not to say all who criticize have no experience, but the vast majority fit that description.



I'm not making any judgement. I wouldn't mind one but I won't say opinions that those who have owned them gave me haven't discouraged me from buying one.

From those who I have talked to that do/did indeed own one (not I heard from a friend of a friend) have not had many nice things to say about accuracy.



So What ? this thread is for Ar-180B owners to show off their rigs.

1/25/2006 8:45:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Phessor][Edited] [#8]

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:

So What ? this thread is for Ar-180B owners to show off their rigs.




+1


"In a man to man fight the winner is the one who puts an extra round in his magazine"
-Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
1/25/2006 8:33:49 PM EDT
[#9]

Originally Posted By Phessor:

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:

So What ? this thread is for Ar-180B owners to show off their rigs.




+1




What HE said!

I'm sure as hell not renaming this thread....and no matter what, I'm not adding the word "MINI" to anything either!
"You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here." ~Jayne
1/26/2006 2:40:04 AM EDT
[#10]
Found the following tonight in the Armalite Website.  This info was not available back in Aug 05 when I purchased my 180B.  I wanted to add this to the thread about "AR-180B slop fix" but it appears to have been devoured by the Black Hole archive.  Apparently there is no need to fix the slop in the receivers.  

RECEIVER FIT: The AR-180B™ is not a custom firearm. ArmaLite® gets a close fit between the receivers, but normal manufacturing variations may result in play or slight side to side receiver mismatch. This is not a manufacturing defect and has no effect on accuracy.

No effect on accuracy.  Well it must be true because I read it on the internet.  I'm still gonna try and eliminate the slop.  

BTW- pics to follow of my new ACE folding stock on my 180B.
1/26/2006 1:24:18 PM EDT
[#11]
tag cause I happened to pick one up at the fun store the other day and I was instantly hooked.   I actually laughed at myself as soon as I shouldered because I realized I'd have to buy one.



My lack of will power amuses me.





anywho....MORE PICS!!!
RIP, friend.
1/26/2006 3:39:54 PM EDT
[#12]

Originally Posted By Phessor:
Well I got my new ACE LTD side folding stock today and I just had to install it. While I was at it I set an A1 flash hider on my barrel and put a CQB sling on it to see what it would look like all put together. I like it!
Phessor

www.hunt101.com/img/362504-big.jpg

www.hunt101.com/img/362544-big.jpg

www.hunt101.com/img/362545-big.jpg



I really like the looks of the tube folder, looks pretty solid/rugged as well. Does it handle/work as good as it looks?
Tomac
1/26/2006 5:03:15 PM EDT
[#13]

Originally Posted By Tomac:

Originally Posted By Phessor:
Well I got my new ACE LTD side folding stock today and I just had to install it. While I was at it I set an A1 flash hider on my barrel and put a CQB sling on it to see what it would look like all put together. I like it!
Phessor

www.hunt101.com/img/362504-big.jpg</a>

www.hunt101.com/img/362544-big.jpg</a>

www.hunt101.com/img/362545-big.jpg</a>



I really like the looks of the tube folder, looks pretty solid/rugged as well. Does it handle/work as good as it looks?
Tomac



I like it, it is light and easy to handle. And it looks good! I took it out last weekend with my three year old son and he loved it. We shot about 100 rounds through it just to have fun. I wasn't able to sight it in because I left with out an allen wrench to adjust the frond sight/gas post. Oh well, I guess I will just have to drag myself out for another range trip.
Phessor


"In a man to man fight the winner is the one who puts an extra round in his magazine"
-Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
1/26/2006 5:08:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Thx! I used to own an original AR-180 many moons ago and I'm very tempted by the AR-180B but think I'll wait and see what the "new & improved" version from Armalite has to offer before I take the plunge.
Tomac
1/26/2006 8:21:41 PM EDT
[#15]

Originally Posted By davidp14:
tag cause I happened to pick one up at the fun store the other day and I was instantly hooked.   I actually laughed at myself as soon as I shouldered because I realized I'd have to buy one.



My lack of will power amuses me.





anywho....MORE PICS!!!




Just put a couple hundred bucks down on it.  
RIP, friend.
1/28/2006 4:03:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rimfireguru][Edited] [#16]

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:

So What ? this thread is for Ar-180B owners to show off their rigs.




I was backing up my statement, Chill out
We were talking about the accuracy of similar guns.

And as per request



All stock.
2/15/2006 5:24:38 PM EDT
[#17]
I am posting this for a customer in Italy.
Ar-180B with StormWerkz EXTENDED mount and Eotech


Josh Miller
StormWerkz
2/15/2006 6:55:02 PM EDT
[#18]

Originally Posted By Rimfireguru:

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:

So What ? this thread is for Ar-180B owners to show off their rigs.




I was backing up my statement, Chill out
We were talking about the accuracy of similar guns.

And as per request

img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/Erow/ar180.jpg

All stock.



Absolutely nothing wrong with all stock.  Until this week, mine has been.  Right now the shop has it putting on a flash suppressor.

I will probably add a folder soon.
If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

Run for it??? Runnin's not a plan. No, runnin's what you do when a plan fails.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
2/15/2006 7:10:09 PM EDT
[#19]

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
How do you like the new extended length rail?
img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180%20Mounts/extended1.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180%20Mounts/extended2.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180%20Mounts/extended3.jpg



Okay, where did you get the charging handle?  It looks like an original, but I have one and I can't make it work on the B.
If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

Run for it??? Runnin's not a plan. No, runnin's what you do when a plan fails.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
2/15/2006 7:19:56 PM EDT
[#20]

Originally Posted By LARRYG:

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
How do you like the new extended length rail?
img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180%20Mounts/extended1.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180%20Mounts/extended2.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/josh54880/Ar-180%20Mounts/extended3.jpg



Okay, where did you get the charging handle?  It looks like an original, but I have one and I can't make it work on the B.



If it doesn't fit, force it, lol
My handle is a spare from my original Ar-180's you need to mill the very little slot in the carrier for the key on the handle, I cannot remember the size offhand but could measure for you if you need it.
Sorry about the crappy pics, they are from my old camera.



Josh
StormWerkz
2/16/2006 8:14:57 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm shootin 1" groups at 100 yards with blackhills BTHP 60-grain
2/16/2006 8:16:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Would anybody know any ideas about mounting a light
2/16/2006 8:22:57 PM EDT
[#23]

Originally Posted By abe:
Would anybody know any ideas about mounting a light



Welcome to the group Abe !
Some people have bolted short pieces of rail to the handguards in various positions with pretty good success.

Josh
StormWerkz
2/16/2006 8:30:35 PM EDT
[#24]
Thanks
2/16/2006 10:12:51 PM EDT
[#25]
Every day I pray that someone will make a reproduction of the original-type charging handle.  
To ask permission is to seek denial
2/16/2006 10:16:25 PM EDT
[#26]

Originally Posted By MrHeeHee:
Every day I pray that someone will make a reproduction of the original-type charging handle.  



You would still need to mill the little slot for the charging handle key, but it is very easy. I will look into the cost of making them.

Josh
StormWerkz
2/17/2006 3:15:06 PM EDT
[#27]


I will buy two of them - gotta have a spare.
I'm Partial To My Life
5/30/2006 10:38:37 PM EDT
[#28]
http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/5039/myar180bwbipodandscope016of.jpg

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/363/dscn14536vx.th.jpghttp://img334.imageshack.us/img334/3588/dscn14582ko.th.jpg

There.... more pics of my AR-180b.
dosent anyone else around here have one they love as muh as i love mine??
6/3/2006 1:38:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BlazinChronic][Edited] [#29]
I guess not....

thats sad, i love my bravo.... if only i could find time to get her to the range id post a range report after mounting my new scope.

hey josh...... i had an idea.......

if i order another extended rail for the 180b and mounted my BSA red dot on it could i use it like a quick change so i can have the one mount for my Leupold scope and the secound for the red dot without having to re-boresight everytime i change mounts?????

just wondered.... then id have both ranged and CQB options for my bravo.
U can never know when u might need the versility. :D
6/3/2006 8:41:40 PM EDT
[#30]

Originally Posted By BlazinChronic:
I guess not....

thats sad, i love my bravo.... if only i could find time to get her to the range id post a range report after mounting my new scope.

hey josh...... i had an idea.......

if i order another extended rail for the 180b and mounted my BSA red dot on it could i use it like a quick change so i can have the one mount for my Leupold scope and the secound for the red dot without having to re-boresight everytime i change mounts?????

just wondered.... then id have both ranged and CQB options for my bravo.
U can never know when u might need the versility. :D



There are plenty of guys, myself included, who have a couple of different scopes setup on seperate mounts for different purposes.
Some guys (and girls) are running low power scopes and red dots on one mount for quick shooting like bowling pins and IDPA matches and when they are out target shooting or whatever they toss the high power scope on . Back and forth and keep the zero.
StormWerkz
6/3/2006 8:50:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Urban_Ops][Edited] [#31]

Originally Posted By REAinPA:
Hi guys. Thanks for the welcome Josh. The weight is just a little over 4.5 lbs. I shot Highpower Service rifle competition for about 15 years. Min trigger weight is 4.5 lbs, so I put the same trigger in all my AR type rifles. I even have it in my AR-10. They can be purchased from either White Oak Precision or ADCO. I've gotten them from both places. I have them in 4 different rifles. If you get one from ADCO, get the "tuned" trigger. It is about $20.00 more than the standard NM, but well worth the money. Josh, how was the trip?
Bob



Bob,
Did the trigger group drop right in? My trigger is in so tight I think the receiver is maybe oversize to the inside?
Josh

p.s. the trip was fine
StormWerkz
6/4/2006 10:14:19 AM EDT
[#32]
Josh,
 The trigger was drop in. No internal mods were necessary. Took me about 10 minutes. The only tricky part is on reassembly, getting the bolt catch hole lined up under spring pressure from the safety/bolt hold open spring. Just use a punch to keep everything lined up. The Rock River NM trigger comes with a set of slightly oversized trigger and hammer pins. Probably by .001 or .002. They are the same length. This is done to minimize pin rotation. I used the original pins. About 2000 rounds with this trigger, no problems at all. Like I told you, this rifle has been 100% reliable since day one. Glad your trip went well.

Bob
6/4/2006 4:36:55 PM EDT
[#33]
My plain vanilla AR180B.  I have the factory mount, with a Bushnell red dot sight.  Shoots great, no problems, I love it.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/img1298.jpg
6/15/2006 11:33:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hepcat85][Edited] [#34]
Anyone looking to buy a LNIB Stormwerkz CAR stock adapter?

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=47&t=343994&page=1

Let me know.
A majority (teachers parents and students) at Jefferson Elementary in Berkeley favored renaming the school Sequoia Elementary because Jefferson owned 100 slaves. Under Chief Sequoia the Cherokee owned more than 1500 black slaves -George Will
6/15/2006 11:51:55 PM EDT
[#35]
Here is a nice example of what can be done with an Ar-180B.
This is from a customer from Canada who sure did some nice work putting his together.
Nice job Bryan !
StormWerkz
6/16/2006 6:33:39 PM EDT
[#36]

Originally Posted By Urban_Ops:
Here is a nice example of what can be done with an Ar-180B.
This is from a customer from Canada who sure did some nice work putting his together.
Nice job Bryan !
stormwerkz.com/images/Users_Pics/Bryan_Boshold.JPG



dAMN... that is pimp!!
But what the hell do a candian need with desert camo??? ROFL!

thats makes mine look horribly vanilla.... speaking of mine....
I took a few new pics



"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
6/18/2006 2:14:02 AM EDT
[#37]
What's the closest the AR-180B can get to the AK-47U and Ruger Mini-14 Govt. FOLDERS...?

I love the Polish Underfolder AK's.  They just look cool as hell.
The Mini Govt. Model is pretty slick, too.

I'd like to use my AR MAGAZINES, though.
The AR-180B will do that, but HOW SMALL can it get?




BusMaster007

"The EAGLE has landed..."
6/18/2006 10:22:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlazinChronic][Edited] [#38]

Originally Posted By BusMaster007:
What's the closest the AR-180B can get to the AK-47U and Ruger Mini-14 Govt. FOLDERS...?

I love the Polish Underfolder AK's.  They just look cool as hell.
The Mini Govt. Model is pretty slick, too.

I'd like to use my AR MAGAZINES, though.
The AR-180B will do that, but HOW SMALL can it get?




What a mini 14's barrel length?? 16in....  the ar-180b out of the box from armalite has a 20" barrel. Right?? Lol…

u can only cut it down maybe 4inches and still be able to have a threaded barrel and a flash hider. So like 17.5 or so w/ the suppressor. Im not so sure.... any shorter than that would probably require major gunsmithing, a shorter gas system and forearm.... front sight removal.... blah blah blah  

Personally I think the bravo looks stupid as a folder. In my opinion it’s not like a concealed carry rifle. Wasn’t designed to be that way even if the original did have mostly folding stocks.

I use mine as like a full size medium range snipers type rifle. I got the factory stock witch I hope to change to an ace fixed skeleton stock soon. The forearm and barrel are just too long to be useful as a folder. But that’s just my opinion after owning mine for about two years now and having shot close to a thousand rounds thought it the way it is. Fixed stock.

It might be easier to carry and transport with a folding stock but it loses something in the overall feel if u ask me.




^^ above is hopefully the future look of my bravo. ^^
just add my stormwerks mount and my leupold 3-9x40 sporter and thats what it will look like if funds and methods allow.

Im happy with the factory muzzle break, i think it works fine even if it does make the rifle sound like a sonic boom. lol

OH... BTW.... I been thinkin bout mounting some rail on the under side of the forearm of mine to attach a better bipod. I kno i posted asking about this before but nobody answered... so im asking again.

josh?? anybody else with one of theses sweet moded bravos got any advice as to the best course of action to do something like this??? help from the community would be nice....
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
6/19/2006 2:57:30 AM EDT
[#39]
Nice work on your 'BRAVO' ( I like that term ).

The "CCR" isn't exactly what I was going for --- too much like the 'Trenchcoat Mafia'...
That would be a little over the top, but I'd like something ultra compact, or as compact as possible, civilian legal, that uses the AR15 mags/ammo.

This is just too clean ( I LOVE IT! ), but unfortunately doesn't take AR mags:


How the heck could you get even close to that with the BRAVO ?
That's what I'm seeking.
BusMaster007

"The EAGLE has landed..."
6/19/2006 7:46:25 PM EDT
[#40]
here....



thats an AR-180 sterling. the same can be done to the bravo with a ace folding stock kit.

= ACE =
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
6/20/2006 12:55:27 AM EDT
[#41]
Well, alrighty then!
Thanks for the visual.

A picture is worth a thousand words.
BusMaster007

"The EAGLE has landed..."
6/22/2006 11:52:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Urban_Ops][Edited] [#42]
I thought you guys might like to see the differences between the various 180 charging handles.

This style is the original crank used on the Cost Mesa, Howa and Sterling but on an AR-180B


This is the AR-180B knob


This is the Vulcan crank fitted to the AR-180B


180, 180, 180B, 180B/v
StormWerkz.com
6/23/2006 1:05:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BlazinChronic][Edited] [#43]
?_?

whats the point of the curvy charging handle??
it dont rotate when the bolt open and closes does it???
that would be cool though....

it seems like the vertical height of it would just get in the way if ya got a rail and an optic mounted up there.

Im guessin thats why armilite changed it for the bravo.... even if vulcan was stupid enough to put it on theirs.....
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
6/23/2006 11:23:36 AM EDT
[#44]
Wow Vulcan handle sticks out way further than would I have thought.  Thanks for the post UrbanOps.
6/23/2006 7:37:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Urban_Ops][Edited] [#45]
<center><table width=85% border=0><tr><td width=100% class=textQuote><hr height=1px color=black noshade>Originally Posted By BlazinChronic:
?_?

whats the point of the curvy charging handle??
it dont rotate when the bolt open and closes does it???
that would be cool though....

it seems like the vertical height of it would just get in the way if ya got a rail and an optic mounted up there.

Im guessin thats why armilite changed it for the bravo.... even if vulcan was stupid enough to put it on theirs.....
<hr height=1px color=black noshade>


-It allows easy charging with the left hand with just a little rotation of the rifle.
-It does not rotate, that would be plain dumbass, it is locked at that angle.
-It does not get in the way of any optics, in fact it is easier to rack the carrier with the crank than with the cheap knob on the 180B.
-As bad as Vulcan is, at least they followed the original handle design(sort of)
-Armalite tossed the knob on the 180B as it is far cheaper to do.
StormWerkz.com
6/23/2006 8:24:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlazinChronic][Edited] [#46]
Ok.... those were just my personal opinions.

i have never had a problem with my "knob" lol
it does what its suposed to do and nothing more, nothing less. seems fine to me.

A dust cover to protect that gapping hole in the side would be nice though....
plus a nice flat topped reciever and a railed forearm would also be worthwild additions to the bravo.
[note to armilite]
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
6/24/2006 11:28:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Shit, they've got one at the local Dunham's for $649...

Might have to buy it, in the interests of further research only of course....
كافر

"Its like I told my last wife, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides, its all in the reflexes."

+1
TAG
IBTL
IBN_T

ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
6/26/2006 10:12:53 PM EDT
[#48]
mine was $699.00 from my local dunhams...... best 700 bucks ive ever spent.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
6/30/2006 1:19:55 AM EDT
[#49]
does no one else have a photogenic AR-180Bravo???

come on ppl lets see some rifles here!!
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -Sigmund Freud

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
7/1/2006 4:27:44 PM EDT
[#50]
Hello all. Just a short range report on the Vulcan V18 charging handle on my 180B. Fired 150 rounds out of 3 different magazines. USGI straight 20, Master Molder (US Thermold) straight 20 and Orlite 30. Function was flawless as always. The crank charging handle acts as a empty case deflector. All my spent brass was in a pile @ 1 to 2 o'clock about 3-4 feet out. The extra length of the V18 handle did not cause any issues. Very easy to charge rifle with left hand (right handed shooter). Actually easier than using the original knob with my right hand. All in all, very pleased with the handle. As a side note, I'm up to 2550 rounds through the rifle with 0 malfunctions. Have a good weekend. If you can, celebrate our Independence Day by going to the range. I plan to.
Bob

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