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1/28/2009 11:03:14 AM EDT
A GREAT COMPLIMENT TO THE NIGHTFORCE COMPACT SCOPES:





... PLUS A GREAT PRODUCT FOR THE "GO-FAST" CROWD.

ONLY $79 AND IN STOCK.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES GRANT
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1/28/2009 11:47:23 AM EDT
[#1]

Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.
1/28/2009 11:59:10 AM EDT
[#2]
We looked at the R&R targets at SHOT. They would be a great addition to our range. I never saw that they made other items.
1/28/2009 12:01:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Do they make them for any other scopes?
1/28/2009 6:13:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Do they make them for any other scopes?


http://www.randrracingonline.com/public_html/Meopta%20Scope.htm

1/28/2009 6:14:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
We looked at the R&R targets at SHOT. They would be a great addition to our range. I never saw that they made other items.


THEIR TARGETS ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE.

1/28/2009 10:24:53 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.



I think they look great.
Super simple design, and effective.

Good work Wes.
1/29/2009 6:25:09 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.


If I know Wes, he will not offer gear if it does not work, I feel looks are secondary over form fit and function. Hope this helps.

Vic
1/29/2009 3:38:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.


HMMM - I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OBJECTION IS TO THE APPEARANCE.

1. THE MACHINING LEAVES NOTHING TO BE DESIRED.
2. THE ANODIZING IS GOOD AND BLACK.
3. THE LASER ETCHING IS CRISP.

NOW, BLOWN UP OVER 10X LIKE THE PICTURE IS MAKES INVISIBLE THINGS JUMP OUT - LIKE THAT GLOB OF LOC-TITE ON THE LARUE SCOPE RING SCREW?

I WONDER WHO DID THAT SLOPPY SCOPE MOUNT ...

REGARDLESS OF HOW ONE MIGHT FEEL ABOUT THE DEVICE'S APPEARANCE, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE DESIGN WORKS AS PLANNED.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES
1/29/2009 6:09:28 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.


HMMM - I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OBJECTION IS TO THE APPEARANCE.

1. THE MACHINING LEAVES NOTHING TO BE DESIRED.
2. THE ANODIZING IS GOOD AND BLACK.
3. THE LASER ETCHING IS CRISP.

NOW, BLOWN UP OVER 10X LIKE THE PICTURE IS MAKES INVISIBLE THINGS JUMP OUT - LIKE THAT GLOB OF LOC-TITE ON THE LARUE SCOPE RING SCREW?

I WONDER WHO DID THAT SLOPPY SCOPE MOUNT ...

REGARDLESS OF HOW ONE MIGHT FEEL ABOUT THE DEVICE'S APPEARANCE, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE DESIGN WORKS AS PLANNED.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES


I have no doubt that it works well.
I just commented that I don't like the looks, it just looks too big and boxy for my tastes.
I wonder why they made the material so thick, why they didn't streamline the ring, and why they left such a large gap in between the two sides when it is installed.

I have no doubt that it is a good product simply because you are selling them but I have no true need for one and if I bought one I would like to have it look good.
1/29/2009 8:53:06 PM EDT
[#10]
Neat concept!  I always thought changing magnification was pretty awkward.
1/30/2009 12:06:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Does it work with the 2.5-10? Since there is more travel of the knob? I was just thinking how hard it is to adjust my new nf.
1/30/2009 8:29:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Does it work with the 2.5-10? Since there is more travel of the knob? I was just thinking how hard it is to adjust my new nf.


YES, IT DOES. IT WILL WORK WITH ANY OF THE COMPACT SERIES OF NIGHTFORCE SCOPES.



2/1/2009 4:45:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Hey Wes. Your pictures of detail are great. Could I see a pic from a litte further away? I cant tell how big that lever is in relation to the scope. Thanks!!
2/1/2009 5:17:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.


HMMM - I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OBJECTION IS TO THE APPEARANCE.

1. THE MACHINING LEAVES NOTHING TO BE DESIRED.
2. THE ANODIZING IS GOOD AND BLACK.
3. THE LASER ETCHING IS CRISP.

NOW, BLOWN UP OVER 10X LIKE THE PICTURE IS MAKES INVISIBLE THINGS JUMP OUT - LIKE THAT GLOB OF LOC-TITE ON THE LARUE SCOPE RING SCREW?

I WONDER WHO DID THAT SLOPPY SCOPE MOUNT ...

REGARDLESS OF HOW ONE MIGHT FEEL ABOUT THE DEVICE'S APPEARANCE, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE DESIGN WORKS AS PLANNED.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES


I thought it looked big and cumbersome too, I didn't even think about the fact that it's larger then life size, thanks for pointing it out.
I'd like to see a picture of a full rifle to get an idea of its size
thanks

2/1/2009 5:22:07 PM EDT
[#15]
Hi Wes,

Your pic looks different than the ones they show on their website. Does the one you sell fit the same scopes they list ?

Leupold - CQT
Leupold - Mark 4
Burris 1-4
Swarovski 1-6
Meopta 1-4
Millet 1-4
Night Force 1-4
Trijicon - Accupoint

Thanks,
Mike
2/1/2009 6:19:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Great idea, but I'm not too impressed by the looks...
I'll hold out for the LT ones that will never come out.


HMMM - I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OBJECTION IS TO THE APPEARANCE.

1. THE MACHINING LEAVES NOTHING TO BE DESIRED.
2. THE ANODIZING IS GOOD AND BLACK.
3. THE LASER ETCHING IS CRISP.

NOW, BLOWN UP OVER 10X LIKE THE PICTURE IS MAKES INVISIBLE THINGS JUMP OUT - LIKE THAT GLOB OF LOC-TITE ON THE LARUE SCOPE RING SCREW?

I WONDER WHO DID THAT SLOPPY SCOPE MOUNT ...

REGARDLESS OF HOW ONE MIGHT FEEL ABOUT THE DEVICE'S APPEARANCE, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE DESIGN WORKS AS PLANNED.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES


I thought it looked big and cumbersome too, I didn't even think about the fact that it's larger then life size, thanks for pointing it out.
I'd like to see a picture of a full rifle to get an idea of its size
thanks



Wes, I didn't think of that much either, some pics of an entire setup with it would be nice.
2/1/2009 7:26:00 PM EDT
[#17]
GOOD IDEA.
2/5/2009 6:17:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Wes,

Do you sell a #5?  If so will a #5 fit a Leupold Mk 4 1.5-5 Illuminated 30mm scope?

Thx
2/5/2009 6:21:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Wes,

Do you sell a #5?  If so will a #5 fit a Leupold Mk 4 1.5-5 Illuminated 30mm scope?

Thx


NOPE - JUST THE #2 FOR THE COMPACT NIGHTFORCE LINE.
3/14/2009 4:10:02 PM EDT
[#20]










YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THIS DEVICE ON THE COMPACT NIGHTFORCE SCOPES. IT'S WORTH EVERY PENNY.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ
3/18/2009 5:27:03 AM EDT
[#21]
$ 80 for a ring ????  
I mean I can see that being helpful and all but c'on, I think is way overpriced for what it is really......
on the other hand, it look good !
3/18/2009 3:51:45 PM EDT
[#22]
SHOW ME ONE FOR LESS.


3/19/2009 7:02:49 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
$ 80 for a ring ????  
I mean I can see that being helpful and all but c'on, I think is way overpriced for what it is really......
on the other hand, it look good !



In this day of $5.00 and up coffees and $9.00 piss warm stadium beers, $80.00 for a well machined functioning tool that will last a life time is hardly surprising. BTW calling it "a ring" is not really fair or accurate. Over priced? I don't know, but the market will let us all know soon enough. As long as they are selling them they must be priced right.  
3/19/2009 8:15:02 AM EDT
[#24]
Putting the screw through the lever, that is a completely new an original idea. Oh wait...

Link

3/19/2009 3:10:20 PM EDT
[#25]
MORE PIX:









GOOD SHOOTING,

WES GRANT
MSTN.BIZ
3/20/2009 9:03:42 PM EDT
[#26]
Bear with me on this, cause I am thinking from an operator's view. I want to see a tactical version of this great product. The "laser etching may be good and crisp" but what function does it serve? I don't need to be reminded of who made it and sells it. A much smaller logo on the top would have been better.  

When I am looking over the scope, I don't want my eyes to naturally be drawn to the letters, which might happen. I would rather have seen corresponding magnification numbers instead of a long web address, or at least not having them highlighted in white.  Maybe have the ring in a contrasting color other than black. It looks like the ring could be flipped around and still work? That way, we could mark it ourselves.
3/21/2009 3:06:53 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Bear with me on this, cause I am thinking from an operator's view. I want to see a tactical version of this great product. The "laser etching may be good and crisp" but what function does it serve? I don't need to be reminded of who made it and sells it. A much smaller logo on the top would have been better.  

When I am looking over the scope, I don't want my eyes to naturally be drawn to the letters, which might happen. I would rather have seen corresponding magnification numbers instead of a long web address, or at least not having them highlighted in white.  Maybe have the ring in a contrasting color other than black. It looks like the ring could be flipped around and still work? That way, we could mark it ourselves.


ALL INTERESTING POINTS.

IN TODAY'S MARKET, I CAN'T SAY I BLAME A MANUFACTURER FOR WANTING TO BRAND HIS PRODUCT. YOU'LL NOTE MORE THAN ONE LOGO IN THE BELOW CLOSE-UP:



THE POWER ADJUSTMENT RING IS NOT SYMMETRIC. ITS DESIGN PRECLUDES FLIPPING AROUND THE LEVER.

YOUR IDEA OF MARKING THE CORRESPONDING MAGNIFICATION DEFINITELY HAS MERIT. FAMILIARITY WITH THE NIGHTFORCE 1-4 NXS SHOWN WOULD QUICKLY REVEAL THAT THE THREE O'CLOCK POSITION IS 1X, THE NINE O'CLOCK POSITION IS 4X. THESE ARE THE POWER SETTINGS I IMAGINE ONE WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO USE. 30 DEGREES OFF EITHER ALTERS THE MAGNIFICATION BY ONE POWER.

STILL, THE CORRESPONDING POWERS MIGHT BE OF SOME INTEREST IN GETTING ACCUSTOMED TO THE NEW POWER THROW LEVER AND WHAT IT IS DOING FOR YOU. BUT, THIS WOULD ENTAIL MAKING TWO VERSIONS FOR THE NIGHTFORCE COMPACT LINE, SINCE THE NIGHTFORCE 2.5-10X24 AND 2.5-10X32 NXS SCOPES UTILIZE THE SAME MAGNIFICATION POWER RING, BUT OF COURSE MARKED 2.5 - 10 INSTEAD OF 1 - 4. OF COURSE, THE LOWEST SETTING, 2.5X, WOULD STILL BE AT THE 3 O'CLOCK POSITION, AND THE HIGHEST, 10X, WOULD BE 90 DEGREES OUT AT THE 9 O'CLOCK POSITION. BUT THE SETTINGS IN BETWEEN MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE WITH THE HIGHER MAGNIFICATION SCOPES .... IF THE EYE COULD READ THEM AT THAT DISTANCE.

THE NIGHTFORCE COMPACT SCOPES HAVE AN EYE RELIEF OF 3.75". THE POWER THROW LEVER IS 3" FORWARD OF THE AFT EDGE OF THE OCULAR LENS. SO, WHEN YOU'RE IN A SHOOTING POSITION, THIS PUTS THE LASER ETCHING ON THE THROW LEVER NO CLOSER TO YOUR MK 1 MOD 0 EYEBALL THAN APPROX 7 INCHES.

LONG AGO, IN A DISTANT CENTURY, I HAD TO ENDURE NUMEROUS MILITARY FLIGHT PHYSICALS, WHICH INVOLVES AMONG OTHER THINGS A MINIMUM FOCAL LENGTH EYE TEST. WHILE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT DRAWING THE EYE AWAY FROM THE MORE IMPORTANT TASK AT HAND IS CERTAINLY VALID, WHAT I RECALL IS THAT THE ADULT HUMAN EYE CANNOT TYPICALLY FOCUS ON ANYTHING INSIDE OF 9 INCHES FROM THE EYE, AND, BELIEVE ME, IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER AS A FUNCTION OF AGE AND AWARENESS. PUTTING THE LASER ETCHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RING WOULD OF COURSE SOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR EVEN A THREE-MONTH OLD.

I'M SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE WHY INFANTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON SOMETHING VERY CLOSE ... AND US GUYS NEVER GET OVER IT.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES

3/21/2009 6:33:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Bear with me on this, cause I am thinking from an operator's view. I want to see a tactical version of this great product. The "laser etching may be good and crisp" but what function does it serve? I don't need to be reminded of who made it and sells it. A much smaller logo on the top would have been better.  

When I am looking over the scope, I don't want my eyes to naturally be drawn to the letters, which might happen. I would rather have seen corresponding magnification numbers instead of a long web address, or at least not having them highlighted in white.  Maybe have the ring in a contrasting color other than black. It looks like the ring could be flipped around and still work? That way, we could mark it ourselves.


Iraqninja: While I see your point of the web address being unnesessary and perhaps distracting, I have to tell you that I can't see squat inside 10" and full detail begins at about 18" for my uncorrected vision.  But I got to admire Wes's reference to what infants want most and "us guys never get over".  Sounds like Wes is back healthy!

7/8/2009 9:15:28 AM EDT
[#29]
Hi Wes,

I picked up a 2.5-10X32 NXS SCOPE from you a little while ago.

How do I go about ordering one of this throw levers?

Do you have a hot link to the item on your website? I could not find it.

Thanks.
7/9/2009 5:58:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Hi Wes,

I picked up a 2.5-10X32 NXS SCOPE from you a little while ago.

How do I go about ordering one of this throw levers?

Do you have a hot link to the item on your website? I could not find it.

Thanks.


WE REALLY NEED TO FIX THAT.

PLEASE DO A $1 "SPECIAL ORDER". STATE IN "COMMENTS" WHAT YOU WANT. WE'LL FILL IN THE BLANKS MANUALLY.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES


9/19/2009 4:42:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Hi Wes.

I finally got around to ordering it, but I can not add "$1 special order" to the shopping cart. Please advise.

Thanks.
9/19/2009 5:13:43 PM EDT
[#32]
HERE

Quoted:
SHOW ME ONE FOR LESS.




9/19/2009 9:41:56 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Bear with me on this, cause I am thinking from an operator's view. I want to see a tactical version of this great product. The "laser etching may be good and crisp" but what function does it serve? I don't need to be reminded of who made it and sells it. A much smaller logo on the top would have been better.  

When I am looking over the scope, I don't want my eyes to naturally be drawn to the letters, which might happen. I would rather have seen corresponding magnification numbers instead of a long web address, or at least not having them highlighted in white.  Maybe have the ring in a contrasting color other than black. It looks like the ring could be flipped around and still work? That way, we could mark it ourselves.


Flip it around maybe?
9/21/2009 4:12:05 PM EDT
[#34]
WON'T FIT.

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