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Posted: 9/26/2011 8:58:53 AM EDT
Hi 
Just wondering if anyone can help me out with a serial number? I have a Norinco 56 and was wondering wether the serial number contains any information on its year of manafacture, or any other info? The serial number is (66 IN A TRIANGLE) 56-1 (SOME KIND OF CHINESE SYMBOL) 17041294 the number 41294 is also on the top cover just under the release button. Any help would be appreciated , thanks in advance 
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its definately a 1
http://i49.servimg.com/u/f49/13/79/91/92/210.jpg the only other markings i can see on it are: 4192 on the top cover under the release button, the 4192 is also on the actual release button assembly inside as well as on the gas tube , 2 chinese symbols on the fire selector 1 for each mode , a chinese symbol on the barrel , the same symbol is also on the reciever just below the cocking handle, there is also something stamped on the front sight post but its pretty worn away & i cant make it out 
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yes im in the UK, unfortunately we are only allowed to own certain weapons, a full auto isnt one of them  this one has been deactivated and will not fire. Its such a shame as its in great condition, just wanted to find out a bit about it really, you guys are lucky over there!
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yes im in the UK, unfortunately we are only allowed to own certain weapons, a full auto isnt one of them this one has been deactivated and will not fire. Its such a shame as its in great condition, just wanted to find out a bit about it really, you guys are lucky over there!What was done to it to make it "deactivated"? In the US that receiver would have to be torch cut in to three or four pieces for us commoners to legally own it. |
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The recievers arent an issue over here, years ago you were allowed automatic weapons over here (as long as you were a member of a gun club), but then in 1987 a guy called michael ryan went on a rampage in a small town called Hungerford one of the weapons was a type 56 Hungerford Massacre
That changed everything. There have been a couple of other incidents like this since then all having a massive impact on the gun law over here. pre 96 "Old spec" deactivation leaves the cocking action intact, a rod is welded into the barrel and the bolt is machined so it wont strip a round ,the weapon can be stripped cocked & dry fired these are the most desirable. But with a little work from somebody who knows what they are doing could probably fire again "new spec" is the worst, they really go to town on it, especially weapons like the AK, the bolt is cut in half and welded in place so it cant be cocked, even the fire selector is welded so it doesnt move, the bottom hand guard is removed and a slot is cut into the barrel, a rod is then inserted and welded in place. The trigger mechanism is welded and all the firing pin mechanism is removed etc. So there you go, thats what we have to deal with over here, you can have an AK if you are in a gun club but it has to be adapted to be single shot only, having to be cocked after every shot. pretty crap really
Just out of curiostity whats the probem with having original recievers over there? |
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Just out of curiostity whats the probem with having original recievers over there? The receiver is the gun. So long as it is intact it's a machine gun. Look at the tacked "Chinese MAK-90 Contraband "Third Pin" Rifle from Early 90s" thread to see just how serious the ATF is about this. The rest of the parts can be owned without restriction. Many places sell "demilled" parts kits that can be rebuilt on semi-auto receivers with a semi-auto fire control group. http://www.overlandindustries.com/kits.php |
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pity you guys cant import "de ac" weapons from here as the recievers are not tampered with, but that would be violation of the law on both sides i believe. Crazy thing is for what we pay for a "deac" over here is probably twice the price of what you guys pay for a working weapon!
eg: AK47 OLD SPEC DEAC= £550 ($857.73) AK47 NEW SPEC DEAC= £295 ($460.05) I do a lot of refinishing of guns over here, stocks ,blueing etc and was lucky enough to be given this free of charge on top of payment, nice little bonus i guess |
Here is a pic of a Bulgarian AK-74 parts kit that was rebuild on a US made semi-auto receiver with additional US parts to make it civilian legal. As you can see the finish on the receiver does not match the finish on the other metal parts. It cost me about $600 including sales tax.
Your Chinese AK is a very nice gun. |
| looks nice that, couldnt tell the difference if you hadnt pointed it out to me, and for $600 thats less than what we would pay for a " dud" ! so do all your AK's have to be US builds? Please forgive my ignorance , its a bit confusing for us over here, i would like to learn more, ive seen guys on youtube firing full autos, is it a state to state thing some can own full autos some states say no? |
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looks nice that, couldnt tell the difference if you hadnt pointed it out to me, and for $600 thats less than what we would pay for a " dud" ! so do all your AK's have to be US builds? Please forgive my ignorance , its a bit confusing for us over here, i would like to learn more, ive seen guys on youtube firing full autos, is it a state to state thing some can own full autos some states say no? Not all AKs in the US are built here. Some are imported and modified with US parts. Some were imported before1989 and do not have US parts. All those are semiauto, except for war trophies brought in illegally before 1968 and registered during a brief amnesty during that year. Federal law regulates and taxes posession of automatic weapons. Some states allow such posession if it's in compliance with federal law, others prohibit it. |
| Full auto guns were legal here until 1986, there was more involvement with the .gov agency known as ATF when purchasing F/A though. Up until 1986 youcould purchase the gun, fill out and submit the proper forms and pay a $200 tax and if you passed the background check you got your F/A gun. Buying a semi-auto you just pay your money and they call in a quick background check from the gunstore and if you pass that you leave with your gun. Face to face sales are legal wth no background check in most states. |
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