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Posted: 3/8/2025 11:04:05 PM EDT
 Your shoulder placement shouldn't change. A higher mount doesn't mean a lower shoulder placement. What a higher mount does mean is a higher head position and what does a higher position do? Cost less fatigue. Anyone who does MMA or any striking sport seriously will know this. The power generated from a upright striker will always be harder and less demanding of one's conditioning. Of course if you're one of those old heads who think placing the whole stock onto your shoulder/pecs is the way to go sure you can but that just means you either need an even higher mount or a more forward and lower head position. I'm not here to force this superior shooting style way down your throat, I'm here to open your eyes to what is the most efficient shooting style. I want to place my marker in history on 3/8/2025 that I was already preaching the gospel of heads up shooting. |
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Anybody that's done any martial arts fight training or shooting training knows that your head and shoulders should be slightly forward of your knees, which should be bent very slightly. That is a fighting stance for any martial arts and combat shooting. Having a your shoulders and head slightly forward the bent knees makes you much more stable and harder to be pushed off balance. With this, your feet should be spread shoulder width or slightly further apart, your secondary foot forward slightly and your primary foot almost directly under and behind you to your outside. That is the most stable position, and your head will not be perfectly straight up and down, it will be forward a bit and tilted a little bit downward. |
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Originally Posted By feudist: Way late... https://www.letsgoshooting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/RifleStandingPosition.png |
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Originally Posted By feudist: Way late... https://www.letsgoshooting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/RifleStandingPosition.png For static shooting, this is the correct position. This is for when you re firing at targets that aren't firing back. This is used to create bone to bone to bone contact. High Power shooting is another discipline that uses that stance. Combat shooting does not. |
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Originally Posted By Redman556: For static shooting, this is the correct position. This is for when you re firing at targets that aren't firing back. This is used to create bone to bone to bone contact. High Power shooting is another discipline that uses that stance. Combat shooting does not. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.ZbymYjYK5FHWpC0gKY4vRQHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=cf87581cc78c19ca80d777e03b58b5cdcd7c8ef0b391763bb3a33fb3820b78f4&ipo=images https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.-avMjmn08IxRoi5Yg3dF8wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=36407deaa64926eb05fc1c1da198d3890af5ddfdb7a19e108afc718d7085fea2&ipo=images The reddit kid think he knows more about shooting than all of us. Dont they to correct him as he will never learn. He is just a reddit troll with no real world experience. |
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Originally Posted By Amish_Bill: That jacket looks more restrictive than some bondage gear. Originally Posted By Amish_Bill: Originally Posted By feudist: Way late... https://www.letsgoshooting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/RifleStandingPosition.png 
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Head up is fine if you are shooting a weapon that allows a tall stock comb height that can provide a cheek rest. Because the AR uses a charging handle and can’t accommodate a tall cheek rest your head has to move to meet it. You can’t shoot accurately with your mellon floating around in space like a bobble-head. And all that high-speed goes out the window when you dial in some magnification and have to search around trying to find the eye box. I’m sure upright tall mounted optics at 1x are super fast when you are shooting man-size targets at 5 yards though ETA: A chart is evidence, not proof |
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Originally Posted By Amish_Bill: That jacket looks more restrictive than some bondage gear. Originally Posted By Amish_Bill: Originally Posted By feudist: Way late... https://www.letsgoshooting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/RifleStandingPosition.png It is, and it's supposed to be. Those shooting jackets are made to be tight in order to artificially support the shooting position. Some classes of competition don't allow it, but some do. |
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Originally Posted By MemeWarfare: Head up is fine if you are shooting a weapon that allows a tall stock comb height that can provide a cheek rest. Because the AR uses a charging handle and can’t accommodate a tall cheek rest your head has to move to meet it. You can’t shoot accurately with your mellon floating around in space like a bobble-head. And all that high-speed goes out the window when you dial in some magnification and have to search around trying to find the eye box. I’m sure upright tall mounted optics at 1x are super fast when you are shooting man-size targets at 5 yards though ETA: A chart is evidence, not proof I can actually shoot my VCOG at 8x without losing optic sight picture, ON THE MOVE. Yes, on a COG mount on top of a .75 riser. A lot of people don't know how to set up their eye relief properly on their magnified optics nor shoot it effectively and consistently. Originally Posted By tarheel7734: The reddit kid think he knows more about shooting than all of us. Dont they to correct him as he will never learn. He is just a reddit troll with no real world experience. You think you know everything and you may just know everything about slamming your cheeks onto the stock looking like magpul dynamics but you made yourself the fool when you came at me out of your depth in another thread retaining to high optic mounts. There is always something to be learnt if you're willing. |
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Originally Posted By POFChub: I can actually shoot my VCOG at 8x without losing optic sight picture, ON THE MOVE. Yes, on a COG mount on top of a .75 riser. A lot of people don't know how to set up their eye relief properly on their magnified optics nor shoot it effectively and consistently. You think you know everything and you may just know everything about slamming your cheeks onto the stock looking like magpul dynamics but you made yourself the fool when you came at me out of your depth in another thread retaining to high optic mounts. There is always something to be learnt if you're willing. Lmao sure sure.. go back to redit.. You are the only one that thinks that. Again you are an inexperienced child. You truly know jack shit about real world combat or shooting. You learned something and can't get past what you learned and think you are superior when in reality all your posts just show how immature and clueless you truly are. But keep living in your deluded world as Posted in the other thread, nothing you ever do will ever really matter to anyone and no one will ever really be put in danger from your delusion. |
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Originally Posted By POFChub: I'm not here to force this superior shooting style way down your throat, I'm here to open your eyes to what is the most efficient shooting style. I want to place my marker in history on 3/8/2025 that I was already preaching the gospel of heads up shooting. Have you been watching GBRS videos? |
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