Posted: 8/12/2007 2:30:18 PM EDT
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Anyone got a course of fire they use. I have been using the MEUSOC m4 qual course for rifle drills and am looking for something similar with the shotgun. I have a pump and semi. |
AR15 isn't a "scene" its an arms race.
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We don't use a qualification course per say, we use standards which I find more difficult. We use steel targets that are 10 inches square set 10 yards away. On a timer the shooter must: 1 shot ready gun .8 sec 2 shots ready gun 1.10 target to target 1.15 180 drill 1.80 combat reload/fire shot reload fire shot 2.75 4 shot rythem drill 3.0 transition drill 2.5 no points for times over the standard and not points if shots miss steel. |
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Here is some modifications off of the Published Army standards. It is some what limited in that the ARMY has not type classified a slug round. Shotgun Qual Task: Engage Targets with a 12 Gauge Shotgun (Qualification). Modified from STP 19-95c1 SM. Conditions: You are given a requirement to engage targets using a 12-gauge shotgun. You are given a shotgun, 10 rounds of #00 buckshot, Type E silhouette targets, a 25 meter range and a firing barricade. The barricade should measure about 72 inches x 26 inches with an opening (window) cut 36 inches to 42 inches from the bottom of the barricade. The opening should be 18 inches wide and approximately 36 inches high. Standards: Engaged targets with the 12-gauge shotgun, scoring a minimum of two pellets per round in the targets. Shotgun Qualification Position Rounds DISTANCE METHOD Time Standard Notes Fired Standing 2 25 Off Hand 4 Seconds Load 4 Rounds Knelling 2 25 Off Hand 4 Seconds Crouched 2 25 Underarm Assault 4 Seconds Load 4 Rounds Standing 2 25 Strong Side 4 Seconds Barricade Supported Standing 2 25 Barricade Supported 4 Seconds Load 2 Rounds SHOTGUN FIRING, SHORT-RANGE MARKSMANSHIP QUALIFICATION (Modified from FM 3-22.9 Rifle Marksmanship Chapter 7, 7.27 Phase III) Soldiers should conduct SRM qualification semiannually, using the shotgun in the full stock configuration. In addition to qualification, commanders should conduct familiarization using the same qualification standards while altering the conditions. Firing the qualification tables with out stock, in protective masks and during periods of limited visibility with NVD’s should be included. Task: Conduct Short Range Marksmanship with a 12 Gauge Shotgun . Modified from FM 3-22.3 Conditions: You are given a requirement to engage targets using a 12-gauge shotgun. You are given a shotgun, 16 rounds of #00 buckshot, Type E silhouette targets, and a 25 meter range. Standards: Engaged targets with the 12-gauge shotgun, scores 16 hits day and night. A hit is a minimum of two pellets per round in the targets. Short Range Marksmanship (SRM) Record and Practice Fire. Position Rounds Fired DISTANCE METHOD Time Standard Notes Straight ahead 2 25 m Controlled pair 4 seconds Load 4 Rounds Left Turn 2 25 m Controlled pair 4 seconds Right Turn 2 25 m Controlled pair 4 seconds Load 4 Rounds Straight ahead 2 5m Begin Controlled pair 4 seconds walking at 15m Straight ahead 4 10m begin Controlled pair 8 seconds Load 4 Rounds walking at 20m Straight ahead 2 25m Controlled pair 4 seconds Load 4 Rounds Walk laterially 2 10m Controlled pair 4 seconds to left LESS-LETHAL QUALIFICATION MODIFIED FROM FM 3-19 CHAPTER 5 8-9 Soldiers should conduct Less-Lethal qualification annually, using the shotgun in the full stock configuration. In most cases, kinetic energy will only carry these NL munitions projectiles 75 meters or less. This gives trainers flexibility as to the locations where a live-fire exercise can be conducted, especially in a field-expedient situation. Task: Conduct Less-Lethal Marksmanship with a 12 Gauge Shotgun . Modified from FM 3-19. Conditions: You are given a requirement to engage targets using a 12-gauge shotgun. You are given a shotgun, a grenade launching cup, 2 rubber ball grenade(Sting Ball), 2 Launching Rounds, 7 M-1012 rounds, 6 M-1013 rounds, Type E silhouette targets, and a 25 meter range. Standards: Engaged targets with the 12-gauge shotgun, scores 15 hits USMC, 13 hits Army. Note: The Stingball Grenade and grenade launching cup is a USMC only program. Stingball grenades should not be fired directly at individuals. The XM-104 Non-Lethal Bursting Hand Grenade SEP program should be expected to provide this capability to the Army in the future. Less-Lethal Record and Practice Fire. Position Rounds Fired DISTANCE Target Type Round type Notes Standing 1 75m Area Sting Ball / Launching Round Load 1 round, USMC Only Standing 1 50m Area Sting Ball / Launching Round Load 1 round, USMC Only Standing 4 25m 3 Area, 2 Point 3 M-1013 /2 M-1012 Load 4 rounds Standing 3 20m 3 Area 3 M-1013 Load 3 rounds Standing 2 20m 2 Point 2 M-1012 Load 2 rounds Standing 2 15m 2 Point 2 M-1012 Load 2 rounds Standing 2 10m 2 Point 2 M-1012 Load 2 rounds |
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| I run a 590, and enhanced 1100. Downloading will not be a problem I really try to keep my shell count low in each stage so that I can practice reloads from a sidesaddle, shell carrier and loose shells in the dump pouch. I "try" to build muscle memory. |
AR15 isn't a "scene" its an arms race.
| As a range coach in the Marine Corps I never did a shotgun course of fire. It was always a "fam fire" and then you were good to get issued the weapon. And by fam fire I mean you were lucky to have targets. It was mostly to acquaint people with the recoil of a shotgun than to see if they could actually hit what they were shooting at. I tried to get the command to let us do some kind of course of fire on targets but they deemed it a waste of time for an airwing unit. |
