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I wasn't sure where to post and Sorry if I posted in the wrong section.. I finally moved to an area where I can properly train with pistol and carbines. The plan is check out a couple class but they require some gear for each class. What kind of IWB Holster should I be looking at for a Shadow Systems CR920XP with no light or red dot that will work for both classes?? Also I'm little confuse on what kind of belt I should be looking at.. The plan was to find a EDC belt for a IWB holster but I can add pistol and rifle mags pouches when I want train, any thoughts or options ?? For mag holders I was checking Taco version but open for suggestion?? Oh is there any way to keep the belt mag holders under say $150 ?? Does it matter if you use a padded or non padded sling ?? Has anyone ever tried December Customs sling or has a better suggestions ?? Thank you |
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Originally Posted By AdaRaven: I wasn't sure where to post and Sorry if I posted in the wrong section.. I finally moved to an area where I can properly train with pistol and carbines. The plan is check out a couple class but they require some gear for each class. What kind of IWB Holster should I be looking at for a Shadow Systems CR920XP with no light or red dot that will work for both classes?? Also I'm little confuse on what kind of belt I should be looking at.. The plan was to find a EDC belt for a IWB holster but I can add pistol and rifle mags pouches when I want train, any thoughts or options ?? For mag holders I was checking Taco version but open for suggestion?? Oh is there any way to keep the belt mag holders under say $150 ?? Does it matter if you use a padded or non padded sling ?? Has anyone ever tried December Customs sling or has a better suggestions ?? Thank you First question, is what kind of classes are you planning on taking? If they're CCW classes I would check out a Kore essentials belt or Nexbelt and a kydex type IWB holster, ANR designs, Tenicore, etc... There's a ton out there and the websites are usually searchable by gun which I think is modeled after a Glock of some sort. I'd compare measurements of your Shadow systems to some glock models to make sure it'll fit in the holster you get. If you're planning on taking tactical type classes I'd recommend an OWB holster with some form of retention, (usually required), and NO Blackhawk! style holsters. For pistol and rifle mag pouches I'd recommend Esstac. I've been using these for years now and never had any issues during classes or matches. Here's some links: Single pistol pouch Single shorty rifle pouch 1.75 Belt clip I've found that the pistol pouches for me are better to mount multiple singles if I need more than one to the gap in between mags can be wide enough to get a good grip. I tried Taco mag pouches in the past and they're fine if you are just drawing from them but reindexing the mag is a pain. Make note of how wide your belt will be so you order the correct size belt clips. To me padded slings end up being cumbersome and get caught up on things easier than non-padded. Just yesterday I order a new Edgar Sherman sling, they are quite nice. Also Flatline Fiber Co is good quality. If you want a bit fatter material on the sling the Vickers Blue Force gear ones are good too. Never heard of December Customs slings. Hopefully this will get you on your way. |
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I would strongly suggest an OWB for your first handgun class. Nothing inherently wrong with an IWB but in a class you will be repeatedly drawing and holstering many, many times and your shirt constantly getting partially untucked will become annoying at the very least and worst case on occasion I've seen partially untucked shirts get holstered along with the handgun. In fact, once you enroll in a class, most schools and instructors will have a generalized list of recommended gear and what they allow and don't allow in their classes. If you have any questions at all, email or call the school or instructor. IWB's are generally accepted but as stated the shirt / IWB can be annoying. Bear in mind this isn't an issue when concealed carrying because unless you get into a gunfight your handgun will never leave the holster. A basic, conventional OWB holster (no retention) from sources like blade-tech or safariland will suffice. As to slings and pouches, etc., again check the school or instructor's website for recomendations and contact them if you're unsure about anything at all. |
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Originally Posted By Nobody69s: There's a lot to unpack in your post so I'll try my best here. First question, is what kind of classes are you planning on taking? If they're CCW classes I would check out a Kore essentials belt or Nexbelt and a kydex type IWB holster, ANR designs, Tenicore, etc... There's a ton out there and the websites are usually searchable by gun which I think is modeled after a Glock of some sort. I'd compare measurements of your Shadow systems to some glock models to make sure it'll fit in the holster you get. If you're planning on taking tactical type classes I'd recommend an OWB holster with some form of retention, (usually required), and NO Blackhawk! style holsters. For pistol and rifle mag pouches I'd recommend Esstac. I've been using these for years now and never had any issues during classes or matches. Here's some links: Single pistol pouch Single shorty rifle pouch 1.75 Belt clip I've found that the pistol pouches for me are better to mount multiple singles if I need more than one to the gap in between mags can be wide enough to get a good grip. I tried Taco mag pouches in the past and they're fine if you are just drawing from them but reindexing the mag is a pain. Make note of how wide your belt will be so you order the correct size belt clips. To me padded slings end up being cumbersome and get caught up on things easier than non-padded. Just yesterday I order a new Edgar Sherman sling, they are quite nice. Also Flatline Fiber Co is good quality. If you want a bit fatter material on the sling the Vickers Blue Force gear ones are good too. Never heard of December Customs slings. Hopefully this will get you on your way. The classes I want to do require OWB holster which I just figured out.. But I can practice CCW on my own after I get threw a couple classes.. As for the belt I was looking at the Kore TACTICAL NYLON GARRISON GUN BELT 1.75 but open for suggestion or thoughts ??? Thanks for the heads up on BlackHawk and retention system..Also will have to check out the holster companies you posted ..The Esstac pouches look really nice and taco I heard alot of about but wasn't sure how they would work out .. The sling selections sounds promising and will look into them further.. The classes I was looking at so far ( Not sure how good they are ) KeyStone T.A.C-Just Carbine for right now https://www.keystonetac.com/services/p/rifle-standards-4s8k4 Baseline Carbine with Achilles Heel Tactical (1 Day Course)-Annville, PA. Instructor: Paul Costa https://www.achillesheeltactical.com/service-page/baseline-carbine-7?referral=service_list_widget This is the class I really want to do basic Carbine and Pistol but it's out of my price range right now |
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Originally Posted By TonyF: I would strongly suggest an OWB for your first handgun class. Nothing inherently wrong with an IWB but in a class you will be repeatedly drawing and holstering many, many times and your shirt constantly getting partially untucked will become annoying at the very least and worst case on occasion I've seen partially untucked shirts get holstered along with the handgun. In fact, once you enroll in a class, most schools and instructors will have a generalized list of recommended gear and what they allow and don't allow in their classes. If you have any questions at all, email or call the school or instructor. IWB's are generally accepted but as stated the shirt / IWB can be annoying. Bear in mind this isn't an issue when concealed carrying because unless you get into a gunfight your handgun will never leave the holster. A basic, conventional OWB holster (no retention) from sources like blade-tech or safariland will suffice. As to slings and pouches, etc., again check the school or instructor's website for recomendations and contact them if you're unsure about anything at all. Thank you for the Great advice and will have to invest in both holsters most definitely.. Also I saw your located in PA and do you know any basic Carbine and or Pistol classes in the Hershey Pa area ??? |
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Originally Posted By AdaRaven: Thank you for the Great advice and will have to invest in both holsters most definitely.. Also I saw your located in PA and do you know any basic Carbine and or Pistol classes in the Hershey Pa area ??? Sorry I'm from the Pittsburgh area and I'm not familiar enough with trainers out your way to make an informed recommendation. Ditto Blade-Tech for open top style kydex mag pouches for both handgun and carbine. The reason I prefer kydex for training and range use is because it is impervious to rain. I've seen many fashionable and expensive leather holsters get ruined over a 3-day course in inclement weather. I've personally tried just about every style sling imaginable and have gone back to the traditional two-point Vietnam era sling for specific reasons. However, updated versions of the two-point like the blue force two-point slings seem to be all the rage these days. I have one similar to the blue force but I haven't tried it yet. You will not need a padded sling. |
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