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10/21/2022 4:14:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lavaspit11][Edited]
I have heard of rifle shooters who are not suppressed doubling-up their hearing protection for a safer, more peasant experience.  Ive got fairly dainty ears, so I think i fall into this category.  Does anyone agree with this?  What combination do you find best for protection and being able to hear instructions?

I used to use passive (Peltor) protection and find it almost unsafe at this point; pop them off or adjust them at the wrong time and there can be serious damage.  So I'm moving to electronic (Razors) for pistol.  I have to think that a second layer of protection for indoor rifle is smart.

Would SureFire Sonic Defender Ultras under something like Walker Razors work well, or is it overkill?  Is there such a thing as Electronic muffs that really truly reduce indoor shooting to a complete non-issue?
10/21/2022 4:19:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Indoor unsuppressed, especially rifle (even more so SBR) I think doubling up is necessary to prevent damage if firing more than a few rounds. Foamies under electronics turned all the way up work well, I’m sure the SureFires would do even better.
10/21/2022 4:33:58 PM EDT
[#2]
I've been wearing earplugs, (foamies) under muffs for decades.
I have Electronic earmuffs now, (Howard Leight Sport Lights) without issue. I turn the volume on high when I want to hear/speak, usually turn em down while shooting.
10/21/2022 4:48:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nuke1][Edited] [#3]
"Would SureFire Sonic Defender Ultras under something like Walker Razors work well, or is it overkill?  Is there such a thing as Electronic muffs that really truly reduce indoor shooting to a complete non-issue?"

Yes, for me anyway.

I wear Surefire EP 4 ear plugs with the plug removed and Impact electronic muffs.
Removing the plug gives you just a little more volume with the muffs for range commands be it 3-gun or a class.
https://www.surefire.com/products/earpro/ep4-sonic-defenders-plus/
10/21/2022 7:12:36 PM EDT
[#4]
I see so you can still hear commands if you leave the caps off the EP4 Sonic Defenders, and adjust the volume on your earmuffs.

Ok thanks guys.
10/22/2022 12:24:02 PM EDT
[#5]
Extremely loud, percussive sound (indoor rifle and outdoor rifle under a covered bench) can also be conducted by the mastoid bone, hence the benefit of double ear pro in such circumstances.
Best Regards,

TonyF
Training Forum Moderator

"... there's trained and untrained" (Denzel Washington -- Man on Fire)
10/22/2022 12:29:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Indoors, I always use disposable foam earplugs with electronic muffs on full volume on top.
10/24/2022 1:24:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I always wear NRR 30 earplugs with electronic ear muffs.  

Upgraded my electronic ears with the gel pads available on Amazon.  Well worth the money.

Double ear pro is highly desirable for rifle as long as you have ear muffs that are compatible with a rifle.  Indoor SBR's are impressively LOUD!

11/26/2022 11:20:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes, double ear pro with foamies.
11/27/2022 12:16:37 AM EDT
[#9]
Here is another vote for "foamies" under your muffs.  You only get one set of ears.

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