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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2014 11:06:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MadcapMagician]
Post them here.
136gr Scenar-L 41.1gr H4350 CCI BR2 Hornady Brass 2.75" COAL 2610fps out of a 21" Bartlein. They're short and a little slow, but give Benchrest rifle accuracy. They'll shoot sub quarter MOA at 100, hold sub half to 1000 and at least sub MOA at 1300yds. |
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Posted: 10/17/2014 10:15:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shotdown]
[#1]
140 gr Hornady AMAX
41.5 gr Hodgdon H4350 Federal 210M Hornady brass 2.187 OGIVE 2830 from a Rock Creek 26" barrel *best group was about 1/2 MOA* ------------------- 140 gr Barnes Match Burners 41.6 Hodgdon H4350 Federal 210M Hornady brass 2.187 OGIVE 2803 from a Benchmark 24" barrel. *best group has been .249 MOA |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2014 9:00:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kurt04]
[#2]
139gr Lapua Scenar
42gr Hodgdon H4350 CCI BR2 Hornady Brass 2770 FPS out of a 24" 1:8 Brux with a Thunder Beast 30BA measured with a Magnetospeed V3 |
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Posted: 2/16/2015 3:25:50 PM EDT
[#3]
another to sticky
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2015 12:29:39 AM EDT
[#4]
140 Berger VLD
Hornady brass 37.2 Varget FGMM primer 2.80 COAL No chrono, shoots a ragged hole at 100 yards. |
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Posted: 4/7/2015 3:43:51 PM EDT
[#5]
140 grain AMAX
Hornady brass CCI BR2 primer 42.5 grains H4350 2.805 OAL AVG 2811 fps in my 26" DTA |
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Posted: 4/8/2015 11:40:22 PM EDT
[#6]
This load consistently gives me sub-1/2 MOA groups out of my Bartlein 25" 1:8" barrel.
140gr Berger VLD Target 42.5gr RL-17 GM210M .015” off lands 2871fps (avg.) |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2015 11:01:15 PM EDT
[#7]
142 SMK
42.2 H4350 Fed 210M 2870 out of a 28" Criterion 1.1" vertical @ 500 yards |
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Posted: 5/22/2015 7:47:38 PM EDT
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Off the hornady box, sorta, but works very well.
120 Lapua scenar L 39.0 Varget Wolf LR primer 2.755 coal 2860 fps avg. Armalite AR10, 23in bartlien 5R 1-8 twist. Legitimate 1/2 moa for 5 shots. Nearly identical results with 38.0 H4895. 2850 fps avg. I have several more I will put up later. Some real good MR2000 loads as well. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 5/23/2015 8:57:18 PM EDT
[#9]
140 gr Amax
41.5 gr H4350 Cci 200 Hornady brass 2.811 O.A.L. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 2:01:51 PM EDT
[#10]
140 Berger Hybrids
36.0 Varget WinLR Primer Hornady Brass 2.825 COAL Good for 2660 through my 26 inch Mcgowan BBL over a Magnetospeed |
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Posted: 6/18/2015 7:52:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gunut]
[#11]
I found a wonderful load by accident last weekend. Good for 1/3 MOA out of MY rifle
139 Scenars Brass trimmed 1.910 WinLR Primer 43.5gn of H4831 ETA 2.825 COAL which is kissing the lands with this particular bullet In my rifle with its fast bbl it chronos at 2792, but YMMV. Factory 140 A-Max shoot 2850 through it although its advertised at 2700 on the box. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2015 9:12:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brosome]
[#12]
Berger 140gr Hybrid loaded .2 off Jam.
H414 - 42gr Hornady Brass Federal GM210M primer Barrel 26" Hawk Hill marksman contour Average velocity: 2760fps Some notes on the load I've noticed: its somewhat dirty, not awful or unbearable, but a bit more soot on the case necks and in the barrel. Accuracy was good, .5 from a 10 shot group at 100y off a bipod and concrete bench. SD was 20, obviously not the greatest but Im going to chalk some of that up to being newer to reloading and having some looser neck tensions from bullets I had to tap out a bit and seat to the right length, a little better loading on my part im sure would drop that down a lot. |
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Posted: 9/28/2015 2:06:57 PM EDT
[#13]
120/123 Amax?
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Posted: 9/30/2015 1:12:04 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mattf26:
120/123 Amax? 39.0 Varget, 38.0 H4895 44.5 H4350 any of those will do nicely. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2016 9:02:29 PM EDT
[#15]
142 SMK
41.0 H4350 CCI 200 .015 off lands 2725 fps out of a 27" benchmark Shoots in the .3s |
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Posted: 3/17/2016 10:01:41 PM EDT
[#16]
IMR 4451 testing, I should have another node around 42.5. Ill shoot for that and double check the 40.5 with a 10 rd group next time.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2016 8:47:27 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-Bandit:
This load consistently gives me sub-1/2 MOA groups out of my Bartlein 25" 1:8" barrel. 140gr Berger VLD Target 42.5gr RL-17 GM210M .015” off lands 2871fps (avg.) That velocity looks great, better than H4350. I'm going to try RL-17 and 140's in my JP barreled AR10, since I can find it, but can't find H4350. What was your starting load? |
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USA
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Posted: 4/8/2016 7:12:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bearcat24]
[#18]
Just picked up some RL-17 since H4350 is not obtainable. Will be my 1st at reloading the 6.5cm. Been reloading mostly 308 with varget but have done 50BMG and 40 S&W. Don't see anyone posting superformance data. Not that good? Will be reloading the 140 ELD'd once I build up enough brass.I see varget is do able. Are you folks pushing max limits with varget? Varget is my preferred powder for 308.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2016 1:34:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alderleet]
[#19]
I gave up on the Unobtanium H4350 powder, and tried the new IMR 4451 "enduron" powder
Absolutely solid performer. Less vertical dispersion, much cleaner burning, less copper fouling, and has a much more pleasant smell when burned than H4350 Ruger RPR 6.5 Creed 1x Fired Hornady brass, FL sized with Forster FL die, trimmed 1.917" 40.6gr IMR 4451 Hornady 140gr ELD-M Seated 2.819" Velocity: ~ 2660FPS Grouped .3" with repeatability. Almost all horizontal dispersion from yours truely. No pressure signs, no swiping, clean brass, not hard on primer pockets. The sweet spot accuracy node for this load in this rifle was between 40.6gr and 41.5gr of 4451. best groupings were at both ends of this charge 40.6 and 41.5 respectively. Above 41.8gr, I began to see primer cratering and ejector swiping. Maxed at 42.7, and really didnt feel comfortable pulling the trigger on that loading. MAX LISTED LOAD DATA FOR IMR4451, PUSHING A 140GR PILL, IS 41.1 GRAINS. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/12/2016 3:36:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bearcat24]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alderleet:
MAX LISTED LOAD DATA FOR IMR4451, PUSHING A 140GR PILL, IS 41.4 GRAINS. According to Hodgdon reload site, 4451 max charge is 41.1 gr. I just looked at Alliant web site for RL-17 data on 6.5 creadmoor. 6.5 creedmoor is not listed. In the hornady book though. I might have to get 1 lb of 4451. According to Hodgdon web site, 4451 is a touch better than h4350 just looking at the data. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2016 4:41:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alderleet]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24:
According to Hodgdon reload site, 4451 max charge is 41.1 gr. I just looked at Alliant web site for RL-17 data on 6.5 creadmoor. 6.5 creedmoor is not listed. In the hornady book though. I might have to get 1 lb of 4451. According to Hodgdon web site, 4451 is a touch better than h4350 just looking at the data. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24:
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
MAX LISTED LOAD DATA FOR IMR4451, PUSHING A 140GR PILL, IS 41.1 GRAINS. According to Hodgdon reload site, 4451 max charge is 41.1 gr. I just looked at Alliant web site for RL-17 data on 6.5 creadmoor. 6.5 creedmoor is not listed. In the hornady book though. I might have to get 1 lb of 4451. According to Hodgdon web site, 4451 is a touch better than h4350 just looking at the data. Oops, fumbled the numbers. Fixed my original post. |
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Posted: 5/20/2016 11:01:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Poop3rscoop3r]
[#22]
I just about pulled the trigger on a bunch of IMR 4451 until I found Re-17 in stock again. It looks like IMR 4451, Re-17, and H4350 are all very similar, so it makes sense that IMR 4451 would be working well for you guys.
The load I have been using is: Nosler Brass Remington 9 1/2 primer 42.5gr Re-17 123 A-Max OAL 2.750" (.050" off on my gun) 123 Nosler CC OAL 2.695" (just to get enough of the bullet in the neck) Both are shooting .5" - .75" groups for me. I haven't had the time to see if I can work up a better load yet, but it's on the to-do list. Chronographed the 123 A-Max at 2940 out of a 24" 1-9" twist Lilja. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/23/2016 12:33:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Got out to the range monday with my 1st batch of reloads. 140 gr ELD-M with RL-17 and Superformance. Started at top left, top right, middle, bottom left, bottom right.
RL-17 (I like this powder) 41.2 gr, avg 2730.56 fps 41.4 gr, avg 2728.85 fps 41.4 gr, avg 2746.37 fps 41.8 gr, avg 2764.28 fps 42.0 gr, avg 2795.65 fps 
Superformance (not impressed) 44.0 gr, avg 2672.28 fps 44.2 gr, avg 2707.10 fps 44.4 gr, avg 2726.34 fps 44.6 gr, avg 2743.85 fps 44.8 gr, avg 2752.69 fps 
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Posted: 7/27/2016 6:23:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Looks like the 42grns is starting to come into a node. Any pressure there? If not I would go up some to 42.2 and 42.4grns. You loading them .020" off lands?
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USA
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Posted: 7/27/2016 8:34:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bearcat24]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rob01:
Looks like the 42grns is starting to come into a node. Any pressure there? If not I would go up some to 42.2 and 42.4grns. You loading them .020" off lands? No pressure signs. Might try a little more. Have it set at .010 off the lands. Have a new scope coming in to replace the SWFA SS 20X. Vortex HS-T 6-24X50. Will try with 42.0 gr with new scope to see if I can tighten it up. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/8/2016 10:40:42 AM EDT
[#26]
Got lucky and scored a 8 lb jug of H4350. Should have it in a week. Going out today to try a little more of RL-17 to see how far I can push it safely.
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Posted: 9/22/2016 10:05:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AZ_Sky]
[#27]
I can't find any H4350 so I've been using RL17.
Working up loads for my new gen1 Ruger Precision Rifle 6.5 Creedmoor with a Little Bastard gen2 brake, so far the best RL17 load I have is: Hornady brass, uniformed primer pockets, outside neck turned to 0.013", case trimmed to 1.915" Fed 210M primer 41.9 grains of RL17 Hornady 140 grain ELD-M bullet Cartridge OAL 2.82" 200 yard target.  I'll keep working on it, but this is the best I have so far. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/3/2016 8:45:30 PM EDT
[#28]
I tried going up with RL-17 but started seeing case swipes at 42.4. Decided 42.0 is working good for me so will stay there. Got ahold of a few pounds of H4350 since my 8 lb deal fell through. Am already 1 grain above max according to Hornady manual and hodgdon web site. Groupings not great. Going to go higher but am a little hesitant due to pressure. But I see folks posting much higher that what I'm using with success. This last batch should tell the tale but so far RL-17 is working best for me out of my Savage 10T.
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Posted: 11/7/2016 3:25:59 PM EDT
[#29]
OK, I've manage to tweak my Ruger Precision Rifle 6.5 Creedmoor load from a couple of posts up.
I annealed my case necks to get a more consistent neck tension and I went to the Magpul AI magazine so I could seat my bullets out further. The stock magazine would only let me load to a COAL of 2.820" (approximately .046" off the lands) with the AI magazine I loaded 50 rounds at a COAL of 2.846" (approximately .020" off the lands). Between those two changes I don't think I'm going to get a load that shoots any better with the stock barrel. Here's my 200 yard target from this morning (I went to shooting long range steel after I shot this one).  |
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USA
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Posted: 11/7/2016 7:41:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Nice shooting. I always have 1 flyer out of 5 shots when doing load development. I put mine .010 off the lands for best results. Just loaded up another batch to try but don't think I will get through them all. Started at 42.0, then 42.2, 42.4, 42.6, and 42.8 gr of H4350. I didn't have any issues with 42.0 last time out. Just not tight enough for me. Hope to hit the range before the temp drops early next week.
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Posted: 11/28/2016 2:10:58 AM EDT
[#31]
Since H4350 is so hard to find, I decided to try some other powders.
4831sc was on the list. I'm shooting 140gr Nosler cc. Started at 42gr and worked up to 45grs. Found a great node in there, but was way too slow. 45gr was getting close. No pressure signs at all. Will be trying out 45.5, 45.8 and 46.1 next weekend. My shooting partner has been using it in his 260 with great results. |
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Posted: 1/7/2017 9:35:37 PM EDT
[#32]
Has anybody tried RE16 yet?
i got a pound of it and loaded some test loads but scheduling has kept me from the range.. just wondering if anyone has a range report yet being it's so new. |
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Posted: 2/7/2017 7:08:14 AM EDT
[#33]
My loadings that are a small cluster (.389" groupings) at 107 yards.
Hornandy match brass FL sized Trimmed to 1.910 CCI LRP 42.9gr of IMR 4451 Hornandy 143gr ELD-X projectile. 2770 fps out of a 24" 1/8 twist savage barrel. Load is nice and warm. Please load up to this loading. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 8:20:55 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By right_rudder:
Has anybody tried RE16 yet? i got a pound of it and loaded some test loads but scheduling has kept me from the range.. just wondering if anyone has a range report yet being it's so new. Was going to try it but decided to sell the creedmoor for a 338 LM for my load distance needs. RL-17 did a great job for me on my creedmoor though. Allot of questions whether its temp sensitive though. Alliance says not while others say yes. Actually RL-17 did better than H4350 with less powder used for the same POI @100 yards. Didn't get to finish my load development before selling the creedmoor though. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 8:35:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: divermedic68]
[#35]
Here's today's loadings.
Shot out of 24" savage sitting in a JP AMCS chassis and vortex viper 6.5-20 Nobler 140 RDF IMR 4451 powder Seated to 2.20 to ogive CCI LRP Hornandy 1X fired brass Trim to 1.910 Will chronograph tomorrow and report back.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:55:43 AM EDT
[#36]
Tag for data.
Any one have 6.5cm gaser loads? Got a 20" JP super match Hoping to run 130-143 gr bullets Have a ton for 140 VLD's And 143 smk's H4350 16lbs Fed 210m primers Thanks Steve |
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Posted: 3/5/2017 10:40:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Finally finished all my OCW work and found my precious.
Hornady 140 gn A-MAX Hornady (1x Fired) Federal 210M 42.1 gn H4350 COAL: 2.855" CBOG: 2.225" 0.025" off lands Avg fps: 2743 SD: 9.7 Stock Ruger Precision Rifle 24" barrel (0.025" off lands). 0.412 MOA at 100 yards (5 shots). 
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NE, USA
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Posted: 3/6/2017 12:56:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TyMann]
[#38]
I've just begun reloading and was wondering if anyone has reloaded the 6.5 Creedmoor with Hornady 140 GR SST using IMR4350. If you've had any luck with it and how hot of a charge would you suggest?
Shooting a Howa 1500 Thank you in advance. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 3:34:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DenverDave]
[#39]
Berger Hybrid Target 140gr
IMR 4350 - 41.5gr CCI 200 Primer / Hornady Brass OAL: 2.8610 (AICS P-Mag max) OGIVE: 2.1870 .053" off lands. (measured w/ Hornady OAL tool.) Best Group= .3 moa, shot from prone, 26" heavy palma barrel on Sav 10 Action, bipod and rear bag. Have not shot from bench or with full artificial support. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/9/2017 3:40:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DenverDave]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TyMann:
I've just begun reloading and was wondering if anyone has reloaded the 6.5 Creedmoor with Hornady 140 GR SST using IMR4350. If you've had any luck with it and how hot of a charge would you suggest? Shooting a Howa 1500 Thank you in advance. Hornady manual max load for IMR 4350 w/ 140gr bullet is 41.5gr. I have had good results with that charge weight. I loaded up to 41.7gr w/o pressure signs but found the groups opening up. My buddy however, using same powder and bullets has found his RPR likes a lighter charge, around 40gr. Its going to differ from gun to gun. FYI according to Hornady Manual 9th edition for 140gr and IMR 4350: Minimum Charge= 38.2gr Max Charge = 41.5gr |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 1:36:24 PM EDT
[#41]
Sierra 142gr match king
43.2 gr H4350 CCI #200 .015" of the lands 2829 fps Shoots about .6 moa out of my savage model 10T. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 3/12/2017 3:52:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: md7989]
[#42]
143 ELD-X
41.8 gr H4350 CCI 200 Hornady Brass 2.214" to ogive (0.020" off) 2755 fps out of 26" 6.5 Creedmoor Criterion on a 42 degree day 0.3" 5 shot groups, and even shot a 3 shot group with all 3 in one hole |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2017 1:20:23 AM EDT
[#43]
140 Nosler RDF
42.4 H4350 2746 fps avg SD 7.2 24" kreiger 1:8 Rem 700 trued action 2.183" to ogive |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 10:30:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Hornady 143 grain ELD-X
Hornady once fired brass, full length resized, primer pocket trued up. 35.9 grains of Varget CCI BR2 primers 2.800" OACL Groups under 1" at 100 yards, 2 of three shots in one hole out of a Bergara B 14 BMP |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2017 9:36:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: md7989]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyhorse26:
Hornady 143 grain ELD-X Hornady once fired brass, full length resized, primer pocket trued up. 35.9 grains of Varget CCI BR2 primers 2.800" OACL Groups under 1" at 100 yards, 2 of three shots in one hole out of a Bergara B 14 BMP My point being unless you're shooting inside 500 yards, you're not fast enough to be putting that 143 ELD-X's high BC to good use. Let us know what it chronographs at... For reference, most of us are pushing the 143s at 2720-2770 fps in 24"-26" barrels using H4350 |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 2:08:40 PM EDT
[#46]
I'll chronograph the load this week. I just having fun with a new rifle and have a lot of varget... you know the rest!
Was looking for 4350, and it's no bueno around Western Washington. |
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Posted: 5/1/2017 4:47:06 PM EDT
[#47]
Look for some IMR 4451. A good replacement for H4350.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2017 7:53:14 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyhorse26:
I'll chronograph the load this week. I just having fun with a new rifle and have a lot of varget... you know the rest! Was looking for 4350, and it's no bueno around Western Washington. |
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Posted: 5/2/2017 11:54:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Crazyhorse26]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By md7989:
I'd be interested in seeing just how slow you're pushing the 143 ELD-X with that powered charge. Hodgdon only predicts 2598 fps at a 36.3 gr charge of Varget (which they call "max load") using a 142 SMK. My point being unless you're shooting inside 500 yards, you're not fast enough to be putting that 143 ELD-X's high BC to good use. Let us know what it chronographs at... For reference, most of us are pushing the 143s at 2720-2770 fps in 24"-26" barrels using H4350 I shot 18 rounds with Reloader 17 (what I could find locally) starting from 39.6 grains up to 41.1 grains. I found a node at 41.1 and 40.5 grains that I will make more rounds for and confirm accuracy and velocity this weekend. Cronographed Prime 130 grain BTHPs out of my rifle at 2870 FPS, and had good accuracy results... I'm shooting steel on Saturday and plan on having a great time confirming the dope on my bullets and making nice ringing sounds! |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2017 7:59:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: md7989]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyhorse26:
I chronographed the load at 2585 FPS out of my rifle. I also played around with the OACL and have a recipe that is delivering excellent results at 100 yards. I shot 18 rounds with Reloader 17 (what I could find locally) starting from 39.6 grains up to 41.1 grains. I found a node at 41.1 and 40.5 grains that I will make more rounds for and confirm accuracy and velocity this weekend. Cronographed Prime 130 grain BTHPs out of my rifle at 2870 FPS, and had good accuracy results... I'm shooting steel on Saturday and plan on having a great time confirming the dope on my bullets and making nice ringing sounds! If you go with the RL17, try to continue taking velocity data across a wide spectrum of temperatures...it's known to be a good powder for 6.5 CM, but not nearly as temp stable as say H4350 or even Varget |
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