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4/4/2026 12:16:02 PM EDT
only thing I forgot to pull out was my boo boo kit that was in a pocket.
The yellow thing is an old north face ultralight wind / rain shell

I can carry in fanny pack or chest pack

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have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

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now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
4/4/2026 2:01:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sandboxmedic][Edited] [#1]
I'd toss in a lighter and/or storm matches (maybe I'm not seeing them), some 550 cord, a bandana and unwrap the TQ and stage it but other than that it looks pretty similar to what lives in my Camelbak (LCP instead of a BG).
4/5/2026 3:57:56 PM EDT
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No knife?

Also missing :
cordage
signal mirror
whistle

Id have a better water container personally

too much focus on trauma FA stuff IMO as well.

mosquitoes will eat you way before you need a TQ

4/7/2026 11:06:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
I'd toss in a lighter and/or storm matches (maybe I'm not seeing them), some 550 cord, a bandana and unwrap the TQ and stage it but other than that it looks pretty similar to what lives in my Camelbak (LCP instead of a BG).
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
I'd toss in a lighter and/or storm matches (maybe I'm not seeing them), some 550 cord, a bandana and unwrap the TQ and stage it but other than that it looks pretty similar to what lives in my Camelbak (LCP instead of a BG).



Good call, I always have a ferro and fire starter. I have 550 cord in my leg pouch. I thought I had a bandana (map of the local area on it) but I forgot it in another pack. Yea I sometimes stage some of my TQ's but most of my gear that I use near the river I keep wrapped up or shrink wrapped so I don't have to dry it constantly. I'm torn on that one. They do dry pretty quick

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
No knife?

Also missing :
cordage
signal mirror
whistle

Id have a better water container personally

too much focus on trauma FA stuff IMO as well.

mosquitoes will eat you way before you need a TQ



knife, signal mirror, Fresnel, and whistle are in the leg pouch (well whistle is on one of my zippers pulls. Most of my hiking is only a few miles and water all over the place. Some days I do carry a better bottle. This one can attach to the straw if needed. I'm in the ozarks so used to the bugs and use permethrin. This was early yet so no bugs. I keep the FA stuff due to us being so remote. It's a Long way to help and lots of idiot tourist in our areas that do stupid things.

this is aways in my leg pocket (little pouch) I have added more to it
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This is the "walk" to the main road to check the mail

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have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
4/14/2026 12:44:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dayphotog:
only thing I forgot to pull out was my boo boo kit that was in a pocket.
The yellow thing is an old north face ultralight wind / rain shell

I can carry in fanny pack or chest pack

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This is always a good exercise in basic preparation. Everyone will have slightly different needs or preferences and experience (and exercising you kit) will help refine it.

I’ve developed a preference for a layered system. Too many systems that are all encompassing may help add redundancy, but when uncontrolled and undisciplined, they can add a crap ton of bulk and unnecessary weight.

Using the “layered” system, your waist pack fits something like mine, in the 1.5-layered (by lines) realm.

Line 1.0: EDC. For me this is CCW, knife (often an EDC fixed blade, always outdoors), flashlight, Bic, pen, sometimes a multitool, etc.

Line 1.5: This is a waist pack, chest pack, small sling bag. This size augments my EDC and bridge the gap to a pack (or fighting load/assault pack). This isn’t going to cover all the essentials, but it’s often where I address medical, water (minimal storage, more about purification/filtration), signal, cordage, a little repair, headlamp, etc.

Line 2.0: This is often referred to as your fighting load. For the civilian context, I put a smaller day/EDC pack here. This is where I can address more shelter than my clothing, water storage/purification, any of the larger essentials that don’t fit on body or in the smaller 1.5-layered options.

Line 2.5: This is almost exclusively in the context of my fighting load. It’s often a smaller assault pack, mission and/or E&E specific that I can detach from my main (Line 3) pack/ruck.

Line 3.0: This is my backpack, ruck, larger get-home-bag, etc. Dedicated shelter and other sustainment gear.

All that nonsense to just say good on you to develop you own system that works for you, just continue to refine it and make it something that you do keep on your body or close. I’ve stopped thinking of these as survival or EDC kits and more of “situational problem-solving kits” I just need to work on a better acronym

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4/18/2026 2:06:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hasher1][Edited] [#5]
One of the best wait packs I have ever found for this is the long out of production Lowe Lumbar Packs from the 90’-2000’s. 1200 cui with a solid wide waist belt that could have attachments looped over it and a drop down side stuff sack that was perfect for a light back and other shelter materials.

Their only downside was the bright colors.  

You could get a lot of gear in one and they won equally well as a sling bag.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/205967057764?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20250506201713%26meid%3Da9b41d9d1e4248caa86e4bd1fddc5a40%26pid%3D102752%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D205967057764%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2SignedOutMobile%26brand%3DLowe%2BAlpine%26tu%3D01KPGWBZ3MQFBYX1DQQ1J5Q0EY
4/18/2026 3:15:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hasher1:
One of the best wait packs I have ever found for this is the long out of production Lowe Lumbar Packs from the 90’-2000’s. 1200 cui with a solid wide waist belt that could have attachments looped over it and a drop down side stuff sack that was perfect for a light back and other shelter materials.

Their only downside was the bright colors.  

You could get a lot of gear in one and they won equally well as a sling bag.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/205967057764?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20250506201713%26meid%3Da9b41d9d1e4248caa86e4bd1fddc5a40%26pid%3D102752%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D205967057764%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2SignedOutMobile%26brand%3DLowe%2BAlpine%26tu%3D01KPGWBZ3MQFBYX1DQQ1J5Q0EY
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You can also find Mountainsmith lumbar packs, including the larger versions with shoulder straps, for good prices on Ebay.  If you go to Mountainsmith's website they have out a newish line geared more towards hunters and such that has subdued colors.
4/20/2026 10:38:09 PM EDT
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Would recommend unwrapping that tourniquet and get it ready for self application.
4/22/2026 9:12:00 AM EDT
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Would recommend unwrapping that tourniquet and get it ready for self application.
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Would recommend unwrapping that tourniquet and get it ready for self application.



I posted earlier


Yea I sometimes stage some of my TQ's but most of my gear that I use near the river I keep wrapped up or shrink wrapped so I don't have to dry it constantly. I'm torn on that one. They do dry pretty quick
That said my chainsaw kit is staged

I also have a few of the NAR stop the bleed kits and they are factory vacuum packed too. The main reason I got those was because:
to protect components from environmental damage, ensure long-term sterility, and create a rugged, compact package that makes storage and transport easy
have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!
4/22/2026 9:12:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:


You can also find Mountainsmith lumbar packs, including the larger versions with shoulder straps, for good prices on Ebay.  If you go to Mountainsmith's website they have out a newish line geared more towards hunters and such that has subdued colors.
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
Originally Posted By Hasher1:
One of the best wait packs I have ever found for this is the long out of production Lowe Lumbar Packs from the 90’-2000’s. 1200 cui with a solid wide waist belt that could have attachments looped over it and a drop down side stuff sack that was perfect for a light back and other shelter materials.

Their only downside was the bright colors.  

You could get a lot of gear in one and they won equally well as a sling bag.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/205967057764?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20250506201713%26meid%3Da9b41d9d1e4248caa86e4bd1fddc5a40%26pid%3D102752%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D205967057764%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2SignedOutMobile%26brand%3DLowe%2BAlpine%26tu%3D01KPGWBZ3MQFBYX1DQQ1J5Q0EY


You can also find Mountainsmith lumbar packs, including the larger versions with shoulder straps, for good prices on Ebay.  If you go to Mountainsmith's website they have out a newish line geared more towards hunters and such that has subdued colors.



Those lumbar packs are pretty cool. I hike a lot with small fanny packs but I wish I could carry more water at times on the fanny pack. Maybe a larger lumbar pack is the answer?
have gun will travel

Well you seen much combat? ......... I've seen a little on TV.

We are jolly green giants, walking the Earth with guns.

Lifetime NRA member SADLY
now GOA and ASA member!!!!!

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