What are your "safari" rifles? (Page 2 of 3)
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Originally Posted By ost:
Whitworth 458WM <a href="http://s191.photobucket.com/user/ost08/media/PICT0033.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z97/ost08/PICT0033.jpg</a> <a href="http://s191.photobucket.com/user/ost08/media/PICT0030.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z97/ost08/PICT0030.jpg</a> <a href="http://s191.photobucket.com/user/ost08/media/PICT0036.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z97/ost08/PICT0036.jpg</a> <a href="http://s191.photobucket.com/user/ost08/media/PICT0032-1.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z97/ost08/PICT0032-1.jpg</a> Them Serb's sure do build a nice Safari rifle don't they. |
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Kreighoff 470 Nitro Express Double Rifle Custom 416 Taylor Winchester Classic Model 70 375 H&H CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Sauer 200 in 9.3x62 Savage 99 in 358 Win Custom Mauser in 338/06 Improved Sauer 90 in 8x68S Sauer 200 in 30/06 Sauer 200 in .308 Savage 99 in .308 Savage 99 Scout Rifle in .308 Steyr Scout in .308 98 Mauser custom in 7mm Mauser Custom Mauser in 275 Rigby Improved Savage 111 in 264 Win Sauer in 6.5x55 Rem 700 in 257 Roberts Improved Savage 99 in 250-3000 Sauer 200 in 243 Of these 3 have now been to africa and 2 more will go in 2 years on my 4th safari. |
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Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner:
Yes, a red dot looks horrible on a double. I shot one at the Bayou Rifles safari rifle shoot last month and it was very nice but it just did not look right on the rifle. Another guy had a double rifle with a ghost ring peep sight and I took a few shots with that also. It worked much better than the iron sights but not as well as the red dot. The peep did look very nice on the rifle and I may go that route. Or just use the open sights. The rifle is designed for very close range shooting and it does just fine for that. An elephant's brain is about the size of a football and that should be no problem to hit at 25 yards. I can hit a clay target every time at 25 but then again you can't see the football and it is usually moving. If you guys don't hear from me after the first quarter of next year then you will know it did not go so well. 
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Headless, congrats on the Searcy. 
But the angry mob wants pics! (ummm please) And while they look horrible, I have read about a number of folks being very happy with a ..... red dot on their double. Yes, a red dot looks horrible on a double. I shot one at the Bayou Rifles safari rifle shoot last month and it was very nice but it just did not look right on the rifle. Another guy had a double rifle with a ghost ring peep sight and I took a few shots with that also. It worked much better than the iron sights but not as well as the red dot. The peep did look very nice on the rifle and I may go that route. Or just use the open sights. The rifle is designed for very close range shooting and it does just fine for that. An elephant's brain is about the size of a football and that should be no problem to hit at 25 yards. I can hit a clay target every time at 25 but then again you can't see the football and it is usually moving. If you guys don't hear from me after the first quarter of next year then you will know it did not go so well.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0640.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0614.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0629.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0612.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0611.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0627.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/dpcavana/DSCN0615.jpg What did it cost to get your shoulder relocated?! I couldn't imagine shooting that thing 6 times in a row
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Originally Posted By r_p_narramore: http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m190/r_p_narramore/DSCN0488.jpg details, man, details |
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
nice buff details, man, details
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Originally Posted By r_p_narramore:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m190/r_p_narramore/DSCN0488.jpg details, man, details
Rifle is a Ruger RSM 416 Rigby. I killed the buffalo in the Zambezi valley of Zimbabwe September of this year. |
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Newest edition to the collection. .223 for practice and hopefully some of the smaller antelope. I have wanted one for a while, but then, of course, Ruger discontinued them in .223 when I was ready to buy. Fortunately, found one at a good price. http://gundata.org/data/guns/Ruger-M77-Hawkeye-African-7ef27fc2cdf4278ebbea9251f67eb1e9a-thumb-0-0.png Mine is a blast. No love for the Russian steel cased stuff though. |
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Originally Posted By Hizzie: Mine is a blast. No love for the Russian steel cased stuff though. Originally Posted By Hizzie: Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck: Newest edition to the collection. .223 for practice and hopefully some of the smaller antelope. I have wanted one for a while, but then, of course, Ruger discontinued them in .223 when I was ready to buy. Fortunately, found one at a good price. http://gundata.org/data/guns/Ruger-M77-Hawkeye-African-7ef27fc2cdf4278ebbea9251f67eb1e9a-thumb-0-0.png Mine is a blast. No love for the Russian steel cased stuff though. About 1-1.25" at 50 yd with XM193 Fun rifle |
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Took it out today About 1-1.25" at 50 yd with XM193 Fun rifle Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Originally Posted By Hizzie:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Newest edition to the collection. .223 for practice and hopefully some of the smaller antelope. I have wanted one for a while, but then, of course, Ruger discontinued them in .223 when I was ready to buy. Fortunately, found one at a good price. http://gundata.org/data/guns/Ruger-M77-Hawkeye-African-7ef27fc2cdf4278ebbea9251f67eb1e9a-thumb-0-0.png Mine is a blast. No love for the Russian steel cased stuff though. About 1-1.25" at 50 yd with XM193 Fun rifle Keep in mind the Ruger has a .223 Remington chamber. 5.56 is not safe for .223 chambers. The reverse is ok. |
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Originally Posted By Hizzie: Keep in mind the Ruger has a .223 Remington chamber. 5.56 is not safe for .223 chambers. The reverse is ok. Originally Posted By Hizzie: Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck: Originally Posted By Hizzie: Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck: Newest edition to the collection. .223 for practice and hopefully some of the smaller antelope. I have wanted one for a while, but then, of course, Ruger discontinued them in .223 when I was ready to buy. Fortunately, found one at a good price. http://gundata.org/data/guns/Ruger-M77-Hawkeye-African-7ef27fc2cdf4278ebbea9251f67eb1e9a-thumb-0-0.png Mine is a blast. No love for the Russian steel cased stuff though. About 1-1.25" at 50 yd with XM193 Fun rifle Keep in mind the Ruger has a .223 Remington chamber. 5.56 is not safe for .223 chambers. The reverse is ok. Since all my experience in .223 is with ARs chambered for 5.56, it didn't even cross my mind. And I checked with Ruger; you are correct.  |
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Originally Posted By safetyoff: Marcel Thys 500 NE sidelick double and Ruger .375 H&H Safari rifle that I did a little work on. I kinda want a RSM in 375. A bit heavy for caliber, but the classic lines are drop dead gorgeous IMO. Do you have an extra barrel set for you Thys? I read that was a common option. |
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The RSM is a fantastic rilfe. IMO, obviously that's why I bought it, as you said it lines are arguably the truest traditional safari rifle. It is a bit on the heavy side but personally I like the feel of a weighty rifle, the 375 shoots very nice with this weight. I do not have an extra barrel set for the Thys rifle. I wish I had a set of 375 barrels for it though that would be very useful. |
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Originally Posted By Ballard: A Westley Richards .500 (with another set of .475 No. 2 Eley Barrels); An English 450-400 3 1/4 sidelock A custom Rigby 450 on an Enfield action A custom .375 H&H on an Enfield action Dutch  |
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I am glad I found this forum and this thread.
SafteyOff, I am also a Marcel Thys owner. Mine is in 458wm, and has accounted for 18 elephants and a lot of other game. Since I am going to be hunting DG if I am on a safari, and traveling with more than two rifles is a royal pita, and since I'm a lefty, I take my Thys double rifle and a left handed Dakota in 375H&H, ensuring that even if a rifle goes tits up or ammo goes missing I have an adequate and legal alternative. 458wm and 375H&H ammo are as ubiquitous as it gets for ammo in dangerous game camps and areas as well. I have a Abiatico & Salvinelli (FARMARS) double in 375H&H as well, and was going to finish setting it up for a lefty (by having the triggers bent and removing some wood on the right side to "create" cast on, but decided to sell it. It is for sale at Champlin's now. When I was doing a lot of elephant hunting, some of it on the Zambezi Escarpment, I was thinking of a light weight elephant capable double, and bought the rifle. But decided to stick with the Thys, and if I end up in the mountains again I'll either carry the bolt 375H&H or have a tracker carry my Thys on the tougher terrain. I am 53 and I'm not getting any younger! FWIW, I read the posts on either a small red dot or a peep sight on a double. I think I will have to go with one or the other soon, or really soon. I bought my son a second hand Dakota in 9.3x62 with beautiful wood that had no express sights and looked like it had never been fired. (Which might have nearly been the case - I had to switch out firing pin springs to achieve 100% reliability.) I had JJ Perodeau add banded front and rear express sights and a banded sling swivel stud. My son is no 15, and I hope to go elephant hunting with him within the next few years, He is already quite a deer, duck and goose hunter. A better deer hunter than I am or ever was. Photos: My Thys and my Dakota: 
My son's Dakota and mine: 
Here is a photo of my Abiatico & Salvinelli, crappy cell phone pic taken for insurance purposes: 
A couple of trophy pics with my rifles: Smallest game taken in Africa, a Sharp's Grysbok, taken with the 375H&H shooting a Woodleigh RN solid: 
One of my two favorite elephants, taken with a frontal brainshot at 13yds: 
Other favorite elephant, the terrain was thick, thick, thick, but the trackers hacked down the brush for the photo: 
Best shot I ever made with my double, a klipspringer at 75 or 80yds, a target of opportunity when walking the mountains of the Zambezi Escarpment in search of a good bull elephant. The photo was taken after we returned from the mountains, and this safari was before I refinished the wood on the rifle: 
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Originally Posted By JPK:
I am glad I found this forum and this thread. SafteyOff, I am also a Marcel Thys owner. Mine is in 458wm, and has accounted for 18 elephants and a lot of other game. Since I am going to be hunting DG if I am on a safari, and traveling with more than two rifles is a royal pita, and since I'm a lefty, I take my Thys double rifle and a left handed Dakota in 375H&H, ensuring that even if a rifle goes tits up or ammo goes missing I have an adequate and legal alternative. 458wm and 375H&H ammo are as ubiquitous as it gets for ammo in dangerous game camps and areas as well. I have a Abiattico & Salvinelli (FARMARS) double in 375H&H as well, and was going to finish setting it up for a lefty (by having the triggers bent and removing some wood on the right side to "create" cast on, but decided to sell it. It is for sale at Champlin's now. When I was doing a lot of elephant hunting, some of it on the Zambezi Escarpment, I was thinking of a light weight elephant capable double, and bought the rifle. But decided to stick with the Thys, and if I end up in the mountains again I'll either carry the bolt 375H&H or have a tracker carry my Thys on the tougher terrain. I am 53 and I'm not getting any younger! FWIW, I read the posts on either a small red dot or a peep sight on a double. I think I will have to go with one or the other soon, or really soon. I bought my son a second hand Dakota in 9.3x62 with beautiful wood that had no express sights and looked like it had never been fired. (Which might have nearly been the case - I had to switch out firing pin springs to achieve 100% reliability.) I had JJ Perodeau add banded front and rear express sights and a banded sling swivel stud. My son is no 15, and I hope to go elephant hunting with him within the next few years, He is already quite a deer, duck and goose hunter. A better deer hunter than I am or ever was. Photos: Other favorite elephant, the terrain was thick, thick, thick, but the trackers hacked down the brush for the photo: <a href="http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Nilrik/media/BuzzandmeNo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/Nilrik/BuzzandmeNo.jpg</a> JPK Awesome pics. Were you hunting in Dande with Buzz, or a different area? |
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Thanks, r_p_narramore.
No, Buzz and I first hunted Chete and managed to kill three tuskless in two days and then Buzz came up with a PLAN B and we moved to Omay South and took the bull in the previous photo and a crop raider we were able to take on a non trophy permit. [Actually, both bulls were raiding crops, but the second one was chasing people too, and was getting stoked up and aggressive on tobacco in the tribeswomen's fields] Here are photos of the three tuskless and the other bull taken with Buzz: 
Crop raider: 
Here is another photo of the first bull taken with Buzz. Buzz is a hell of a lot more photogenic than I am! Note his sandals!: 
Here's another one of Buzz and I. He called this one "too colonial": 
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Awesome ele pics. Only thing missing in your pic is a confederate flag; if present, the liberal angst would reach worldwide critical mass. |
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Haven't been yet, but I'm planning for a safari for the summer after I finish dental school. A big part of the long term plan is that I will have built all the rifles I use while in SA. My current safari project guns are a 1903a3 Springfield action I've rebarreled in 9.3x62, and a lightweight 7x57 on a small ring Mauser action. So far not much in the .40+ bore range has sparked my interest for a larger bore rifle, though I've contemplated a .458 Win Mag as I received several hundred cases in trade. |
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7x57 is a great caliber. I think it performs better than its ballistics would suggest. My son shot a wildebeest, kudu, and numerous smaller antelopes with his.
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Bacon is, par excellence,the soldiers meat in America. It is always acceptable, easily cooked, and with its rich juice, will make the driest diet savory
-John Julian Chism, M.D. Confederate surgeon
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Winchester Model 70 - 458 Win Mag
Winchester Model 70 - 375 H&H Ruger #1 - 416 Rigby Ruger RSM - 416 Rigby (Currently looking for a Ruger RSM 375 H&H donor rifle to be converted into a 404 Jeffery) No current pics because the rifles are in dad's safe in another state at this time. 
* Dad and I are currently planning our safari for fall 2016. 
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Originally Posted By KZ45: I have a few Blasers, and a couple Sauer 202s, but this 404 is my newest addition. http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l565/urbankz/IMG_2186%202_zps7afkmlfu.jpg http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l565/urbankz/IMG_2191_zpspmjzfqin.jpg http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l565/urbankz/IMG_2214_zpsakgbpixc.jpg What do you think of your labradar chrono? |
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Just picked my first true big bore- ruger m77 in .458 win mag. I knew the owner of this rifle and it has been shot under 6 times in 26 years. I know because he brought in a box of 14 rounds he bought with the gun. It's wearing a Leupolds vx3 2.5-8x36 I had laying around and I'm kinda on the fence on it, but it's growing on me.    |
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Georgeous rifle. What do you think of your labradar chrono? Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Originally Posted By KZ45:
I have a few Blasers, and a couple Sauer 202s, but this 404 is my newest addition. http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l565/urbankz/IMG_2186%202_zps7afkmlfu.jpg http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l565/urbankz/IMG_2191_zpspmjzfqin.jpg http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l565/urbankz/IMG_2214_zpsakgbpixc.jpg What do you think of your labradar chrono? I've only had it out a few times, but so far, so good. I would defiantly recommend it. |
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Awesome ele pics. Only thing missing in your pic is a confederate flag; if present, the liberal angst would reach worldwide critical mass.
 So true. The one where they're kicking back in the folding chairs, while the locals wallow in dirt waiting for there share of the kill, would make their heads explode like in the movie Scanners.
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Originally Posted By KZ45:
So true. The one where they're kicking back in the folding chairs, while the locals wallow in dirt waiting for there share of the kill, would make their heads explode like in the movie Scanners.Originally Posted By KZ45:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Awesome ele pics. Only thing missing in your pic is a confederate flag; if present, the liberal angst would reach worldwide critical mass.
So true. The one where they're kicking back in the folding chairs, while the locals wallow in dirt waiting for there share of the kill, would make their heads explode like in the movie Scanners.For some reason my own photos are not showing up for me, but I know which photo you are referring to. The liberals would go bat s--t crazy, bitch, complain and try to shame me and others from hunting in Africa and then do not a damn thing for the people there, for whom the only protein for the YEAR might be the elephant, cape buffalo or other game meat provided by the "sport" hunter. Not only that, but in that particular area the safari operator is paying the tribe for the hunting rights and employing a number of the locals. BTW, when was the last time a liberal created a job, outside of the media? Also, fwiw, when I have killed an elephant far from a village and there is less help available for the skinners and trackers, I have often pitched in skinning and removing meat from elephants, which must be done where they fall because of their size. JPK |
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Interesting thread, guys!
My Granddad was a PH in Tanzania in the glory days and I've always grown up around his safari stories. His Dad was one of the more famous American African Safari enthusiasts as well. Unfortunately most of the family safari firearms were stolen from a gunsmith sometime in the early 80's, or I would make my own contribution. |
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For all of you guys with the 458wm's, if you ever hear or read some fool saying the 458wm doesn't have the performance required for elephants or any other dangerous game, just ignore them or refer them to the Hornaday Reloading Manual and AA2230 powder. My 500gr Woodleigh soft and solid loads performed great at 2130fps and my 450gr truncated cone flat nose Northfork solids at 2220 using the same powder provided though and through performance on broadside shots on bulls. On frontal brain shots, the Northforks penetrated from 48" to more than 72" depending on what they needed to go through.
My loads were not max loads and were pressure tested to ensure they were sahe in my double rifle. JPK |
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Originally Posted By Hizzie: My not so dangerous game rifle: Ruger African 223 Remington http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae322/strangler366/Double%20Rifle/1480059057_zps2ea1dlvi.jpg New addition to fuel my dreams of the Dark Continent: Ruger Alaskan 416 Ruger http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae322/strangler366/Double%20Rifle/1480059059_zps5pjvh5xp.jpg Sub MOA shooter Plan on using it on whitetail this year. Very fun rifle |
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I have a Montana Rifle Company Extreme Vantage Rifle in .375 H&H. Mine was one of the first built with one of MRC's own hand laid composite stocks (they used to use Bell & Carlson). It has a Leupold VX-3 1.75-6x mounted on it in Leupold quick detach rings.
Attached File Love it. I bought it for an Alaskan Brown Bear hunt I was supposed to go on... trip got canceled, but soon I'll try again. Until then, it is devastating on hogs loaded with a 270gr Barnes TSX!
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Originally Posted By Aggie_Gunner:
I have a Montana Rifle Company Extreme Vantage Rifle in .375 H&H. Mine was one of the first built with one of MRC's own hand laid composite stocks (they used to use Bell & Carlson). It has a Leupold VX-3 1.75-6x mounted on it in Leupold quick detach rings. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55187/v2-rifle-180048.JPG Love it. I bought it for an Alaskan Brown Bear hunt I was supposed to go on... trip got canceled, but soon I'll try again. Until then, it is devastating on hogs loaded with a 270gr Barnes TSX! |
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Originally Posted By Aggie_Gunner:
I have a Montana Rifle Company Extreme Vantage Rifle in .375 H&H. Mine was one of the first built with one of MRC's own hand laid composite stocks (they used to use Bell & Carlson). It has a Leupold VX-3 1.75-6x mounted on it in Leupold quick detach rings. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/55187/v2-rifle-180048.JPG Love it. I bought it for an Alaskan Brown Bear hunt I was supposed to go on... trip got canceled, but soon I'll try again. Until then, it is devastating on hogs loaded with a 270gr Barnes TSX! |
| Agreed! I was looking at .416's and even .458's but my friend, who was bringing me along as his backup shooter (he was going after a monster Cape Buffalo), suggested I look at the .404. After reading some articles and the data, it seemed to me to be the right cartridge for the job. I am a huge fan of it now. |
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Originally Posted By stony275:
Agreed! I was looking at .416's and even .458's but my friend, who was bringing me along as his backup shooter (he was going after a monster Cape Buffalo), suggested I look at the .404. After reading some articles and the data, it seemed to me to be the right cartridge for the job. I am a huge fan of it now. http://www.safariammo.net/index.php/404-rimless.html @stony275 |
Sako "Safari .375 H&H"
Marty Rabeno engraver, a Leopard and 2 Buffalo among other animals fallen to this superbly accurate rifle. Plains game were handled with a basic O/U from Browning, Cal. .30-06, regulated with 200 grain bullets after the Claw mounts & Leupold fixed 3X were added. Function more important than appearance to me in the field. 
Of course the extra 20 Ga. 3" barrels are helpful at times :-) 
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