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I've been looking at those. Going through the U of Arkansas Blackberry School right now. I don't want to grow commercially but it's a great education on blackberry plant growth and development. I'm a few zones north of you I'm guessing. So question group 2: Is that a full-length cattle panel? And your berries are planted in those raised beds? It looks like you've got some kind of fencing at the bottom of the panel. Is that for a particular reason re: the blackberries? (I'm picking your brain so if I do this I can avoid mistakes more the first time. ![]() Do the berries go all the way up and over? (I'm assuming you're training them). Yours is the cleanest looking for berry production that I've seen. Interested in any info on how this is working for you. I'm probably going to try one of the U of Arkansas thornless varieties as well. Thanks in advance. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: I've been looking at those. Going through the U of Arkansas Blackberry School right now. I don't want to grow commercially but it's a great education on blackberry plant growth and development. I'm a few zones north of you I'm guessing. So question group 2: Is that a full-length cattle panel? And your berries are planted in those raised beds? It looks like you've got some kind of fencing at the bottom of the panel. Is that for a particular reason re: the blackberries? (I'm picking your brain so if I do this I can avoid mistakes more the first time. ![]() Do the berries go all the way up and over? (I'm assuming you're training them). Yours is the cleanest looking for berry production that I've seen. Interested in any info on how this is working for you. I'm probably going to try one of the U of Arkansas thornless varieties as well. Thanks in advance. Yes, the plants in a raised bed. There are two plants in the single bed. The fencing on the side away from the planter is about 15 foot long and was part of a chicken enclosure that we took down. I left that section up to give the blackberries more room. It's light weight welded wire fencing. The berries go up and all the way over the arch, and down the fence. We trim the thick canes as the come up every year. They dont produce fruit. I'd upload better picks but I can get the file size below the three MB limit. |
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I'm losing my strawberries that are in-ground. Im afraid they have wet feet. They took off like crazy then they've started just keeling over and dying. I may have to buy more soil and raise the bed more. Dangit. |
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We've already harvested our onion bed. Total of 54 plants, that should get us through most if not all of the year. We also pulled 2 or our 3 garlic beds. Didn't count, but again, will get us through the year , and we still have our last bed. The blackberries are in full production and we got our first full bowl today. My yard is more garden than yard now. ![]() Pics... Attached File |
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM: We've already harvested our onion bed. Total of 54 plants, that should get us through most if not all of the year. We also pulled 2 or our 3 garlic beds. Didn't count, but again, will get us through the year , and we still have our last bed. The blackberries are in full production and we got our first full bowl today. My yard is more garden than yard now. ![]() Pics... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/251964/1000010455_jpg-3761535.JPG |
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM: They are 1015y |
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Corn about ready. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM: I also planted sun choke just to try out, since we wasted a lot of money last year on potato towers that didnt produce. @BIgDAM I'm growing potatoes in 13 Dole Banana Boxes I got for free from Costco this year. I had a huge writeup about it on Reddit, but deleted it all because those fucktards started downvoting me for referencing GROK in my planning. Judging from your setup, you might really find use too. Especially if you wanted to do towers with them growing Indeterminant varieties as the boxes have locking tabs to stack and holes in the bottom to allow the vines to pass thru easily. I went with single box per six Red Norland chits as I already had a determinant variety. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Buckshot4U: I finally got something in the ground. 3 rows of corn planted a few nights ago. I hope to get the maters and peppers in the ground tomorrow. I planted a ton of summer squash, more tomatoes and peppers last weekend and now Colorado is about to get snow on Monday night. Can't win. I'm going to cut some suckers off and start them in water as back up. Will tarp everything and use Christmas lights to try to keep it alive, but I don't expect any of the summer squash to survive. I've held off on planting any melons and winter squash which I started myself in peat pots, even thought I was tempted by the 85F weather. Glad I held off! The tomatoes in the other photo have survived two hard freezes covered as they're on the south facing wall of my house and have the dryer vent behind them. I'll have the wife run a bunch of laundry non-stop during the freeze again. ![]() Attached File Attached File |
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2-3 years ago we started with a raised bed and a handful of pepper plants. They did really well and we expanded the bed last year. I continue to want to grow more so this year I added 2 more 4x8 raised beds, 1 of which I have my peppers in ( 2 each of jalapeño, hot banana, sweet banana,.and bell). Other new bed has a couple of summer squash plants. I just added a small cantaloupe seedling. I think ill probably end up doing more squash for the rest of the space. My existing bed i did corn and green beans. I sowed the seeds a little too deep but getting some good corn stalks ,going to sow some more green beans and possibly some peanuts this week in the same bed. I've got 3 tomatoes going in buckets as well. Plan for next month or so is trying to propagate some more pepper plants, get some sweet potato slips going, and then the green beans and maybe peanuts. Im in zone 9 in northern Florida so also considering bananas this year. I want to find some kumquats to plant alongside my 4 orange trees that haven't done jack, maybe those will give me better luck. Also looking at doing some pineapples either in ground or buckets/grow bags. Anyone have any luck with either? |
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Garlic question: I've been waiting for my garlic to make scapes. Had a bunch of really nice elephant garlic from a member here. All of a sudden it's all begun to head. No scapes. What did I do wrong? |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs: Garlic question: I've been waiting for my garlic to make scapes. Had a bunch of really nice elephant garlic from a member here. All of a sudden it's all begun to head. No scapes. What did I do wrong? |
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Originally Posted By JCoop: Go ask Grok (as I just did) "why would elephant garlic would fail to produce scapes". There are a number of reasons why this might happen. What is Grok? ![]() ETA: NONE of the garlic has produced scapes. But the EG has formed the top bulbs. I believe surely the other garlic would have made scapes by now? |
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None of our garlic produced shapes this year either. We still pulled 2 beds and it all looks good. Attached File |
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Grok is the artificial intelligence agent on X.com (formerly twitter). You can ask it questions and it ingests a ton of internet information and spits out answers. I asked it, "Why would elephant garlic not produce scapes?". Here's what it said. Elephant garlic (Allium ampeloprasum) is actually more closely related to leeks than to true garlic, and it behaves like a biennial plant. This is the most common reason it doesn't produce scapes in a given season. Main Reasons for No Scapes First-year growth cycle: In its first growing season (especially from cloves planted the previous fall or spring), elephant garlic typically focuses energy on forming one large, single bulb (often called a "round") without bolting or producing a flower stalk (scape). It only sends up scapes and divides into multiple cloves in its second year. Many gardeners see this pattern. Plant size and maturity: Smaller or younger plants (from small cloves or bulbils) may skip scaping until they're vigorous enough. Larger, well-established bulbs are more likely to bolt in spring. Environmental factors:Insufficient cold period (vernalization): Like many alliums, it needs a period of cold to trigger flowering. Mild winters or very warm climates can reduce or delay scaping. Stress or poor conditions: Extreme heat, drought, waterlogging, nutrient deficiencies, or poor soil can prevent bolting. Healthy, unstressed plants in rich, well-drained soil with consistent moisture are more likely to produce scapes. Timing: Scapes usually emerge in spring. If you're checking too early, they may not have appeared yet. Elephant garlic scapes tend to be straight/tall (up to 5 6 feet) and don't curl like hardneck garlic scapes. What You Can Do: Be patient If it's the first year or the bulbs are still single and large, leave them in the ground (or replant) for next season. They'll often produce scapes then. Improve growing conditions:Full sun, rich well-drained soil (pH 6 7), consistent moisture but not soggy. Good fertility (compost or balanced fertilizer). Mulch for winter protection in colder areas. If it should be scaping but isn't: It could be variety, planting stock quality, or unusual weather. Some people report no scapes even in year two under suboptimal conditions. Once scapes do appear, remove them early (when a few inches tall) so the plant puts energy into the bulb instead of the flower they're edible and tasty when young. Elephant garlic is forgiving and productive once established. If you share more details (e.g., when you planted, your location/climate, plant size, or if the bulbs are single or cloved), I can give more tailored advice! |
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM: None of our garlic produced shapes this year either. We still pulled 2 beds and it all looks good. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/251964/3263_jpg-3769066.JPG I probably need to go out there and harvest mine! Gotta find a place to put it to dry. |
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Originally Posted By JCoop: Grok is the artificial intelligence agent on X.com (formerly twitter). You can ask it questions and it ingests a ton of internet information and spits out answers. I asked it, "Why would elephant garlic not produce scapes?". Here's what it said. Elephant garlic (Allium ampeloprasum) is actually more closely related to leeks than to true garlic, and it behaves like a biennial plant. This is the most common reason it doesn't produce scapes in a given season. Main Reasons for No Scapes First-year growth cycle: In its first growing season (especially from cloves planted the previous fall or spring), elephant garlic typically focuses energy on forming one large, single bulb (often called a "round") without bolting or producing a flower stalk (scape). It only sends up scapes and divides into multiple cloves in its second year. Many gardeners see this pattern. Plant size and maturity: Smaller or younger plants (from small cloves or bulbils) may skip scaping until they're vigorous enough. Larger, well-established bulbs are more likely to bolt in spring. Environmental factors:Insufficient cold period (vernalization): Like many alliums, it needs a period of cold to trigger flowering. Mild winters or very warm climates can reduce or delay scaping. Stress or poor conditions: Extreme heat, drought, waterlogging, nutrient deficiencies, or poor soil can prevent bolting. Healthy, unstressed plants in rich, well-drained soil with consistent moisture are more likely to produce scapes. Timing: Scapes usually emerge in spring. If you're checking too early, they may not have appeared yet. Elephant garlic scapes tend to be straight/tall (up to 5 6 feet) and don't curl like hardneck garlic scapes. What You Can Do: Be patient If it's the first year or the bulbs are still single and large, leave them in the ground (or replant) for next season. They'll often produce scapes then. Improve growing conditions:Full sun, rich well-drained soil (pH 6 7), consistent moisture but not soggy. Good fertility (compost or balanced fertilizer). Mulch for winter protection in colder areas. If it should be scaping but isn't: It could be variety, planting stock quality, or unusual weather. Some people report no scapes even in year two under suboptimal conditions. Once scapes do appear, remove them early (when a few inches tall) so the plant puts energy into the bulb instead of the flower they're edible and tasty when young. Elephant garlic is forgiving and productive once established. If you share more details (e.g., when you planted, your location/climate, plant size, or if the bulbs are single or cloved), I can give more tailored advice! THANKS!!!!! ![]() |
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I'm trying Rhubarb in a container since I can't grow it outside in the Texas heat. I've had it since early spring first outside and now it's come inside with a grow light. It's not producing stalks very well but it keeps making new ones every month or so. Maybe next year I'll get an edible harvest in the spring. Attached File |
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Can you keep it outside in the winter? That might be your best production. I don't know. Never grown rhubarb (I want to) but guessing what I grow in spring/summer you would grow in winter? |
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