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OK I got nailed 4 times yesterday.
Little bastages crawled under my pants legs from my shoes ans stung me on my ankles! 
But we did find this in one hive. The heat had warped one deep frame foundation and the bees stored on it anyway. Here is what feral comb would look like. 
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Ahhh just read through the first 7 pages again and feel so full of useful info! I want to use it so bad now lol. I have run into a big snag though and that is equipment cost. Miller's seems to be the cheapest out right for stuff but the honey extractors, even the small ones are so expensive. Any way to get a set of equipment, hive, and extractor any where used and cheaper?
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Originally Posted By memyselfandi: Ahhh just read through the first 7 pages again and feel so full of useful info! I want to use it so bad now lol. I have run into a big snag though and that is equipment cost. Miller's seems to be the cheapest out right for stuff but the honey extractors, even the small ones are so expensive. Any way to get a set of equipment, hive, and extractor any where used and cheaper? You can do top bar hives on the cheap. Build 'em yourself. Crush and strain comb to harvest the honey. |
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Originally Posted By memyselfandi: Yes, there is always used extraction equipment out there for sale.Ahhh just read through the first 7 pages again and feel so full of useful info! I want to use it so bad now lol. I have run into a big snag though and that is equipment cost. Miller's seems to be the cheapest out right for stuff but the honey extractors, even the small ones are so expensive. Any way to get a set of equipment, hive, and extractor any where used and cheaper? But before you do that, get thee to your county agent and find out if there's a local beekeeping association near you. Find yourself some beekeepers and make friends. Go to the meetings. Most beekeepers do not start out buying extracting equipment. They borrow other people's extractors. If you go straight into it, unless you plan to have a hundred hives and make it full time, it's hard to break even buying new equipment. I don't own an extractor or any of the cappings pans or any of that. My beekeeping mentor loans me his. I'll take my combs to him and we'll do it there, or I'll bring his equipment here and extract my honey here. Beyond that, the county next to mine has an old beekeeping association––one of the first established in the state, and they own a ginormous extraction setup, purchased with a state grant for ag diversification a few years back. It's a kickass piece of equipment. All automatic. Very cool. A few saturdays every year they go to some local place––like a volunteer fire department, and set up inside a bay and anybody who needs to extract can bring their supers to that location, with their jars, and they extract for you. I don't know if there's anything like this near you or not. But there are resources out there. But you have to get into the network of beekeepers to find them. Don't buy an extractor unless you HAVE to. And most new beekeepers don't have to. Get involved with your local beekeepers. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose by doing this. |
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Originally Posted By Torqued: Originally Posted By memyselfandi: Ahhh just read through the first 7 pages again and feel so full of useful info! I want to use it so bad now lol. I have run into a big snag though and that is equipment cost. Miller's seems to be the cheapest out right for stuff but the honey extractors, even the small ones are so expensive. Any way to get a set of equipment, hive, and extractor any where used and cheaper? You can do top bar hives on the cheap. Build 'em yourself. Crush and strain comb to harvest the honey. Any good links for this stuff? |
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Originally Posted By memyselfandi: Originally Posted By Torqued: Originally Posted By memyselfandi: Ahhh just read through the first 7 pages again and feel so full of useful info! I want to use it so bad now lol. I have run into a big snag though and that is equipment cost. Miller's seems to be the cheapest out right for stuff but the honey extractors, even the small ones are so expensive. Any way to get a set of equipment, hive, and extractor any where used and cheaper? You can do top bar hives on the cheap. Build 'em yourself. Crush and strain comb to harvest the honey. Any good links for this stuff? http://www.biobees.com/ - they even have some plans for hives there. http://www2.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm http://www.beesource.com/resources/elements-of-beekeeping/alternative-hive-designs/traditional-top-bar-hives-david-tromp/ http://www.beesource.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=254 http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php?board=96.0 I installed a top bar hive in my back yard last year. It's been a lot of fun. |
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| Just got my 5th swarm for the year. Feels good to be back into it. Got another beekeeper started started with a swarm last week. She is a retired widower and always wanted to keep bees. I gave her the swarm in a new set of boxes all set up for her. Next I will make her a list of extra's she will need such as a veil/smoker/tool. I would like 1 more hive for myself but it is getting late. A fellow deputy also expressed interest in starting a hive. |
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Kitties, did you have to remove your hives or did you get it worked out with the neighbor?
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I still have one hive. It's waiting to be moved. I just don't have the equipment to move it. It's a big hive. A farmer down the road has offered for me to set hives in his field. (his dad used to keep bees and he's not a wuss, unlike the neighbor...the one with the AGRICULTURE degree  ) Meanwhile I'm trying to come up with a place on the other side of the yard that I might could put them. Trouble is, everywhere over there, it's shady. Or they're right beside my dogs or the chickens. None are good options.Thanks for asking. kitties |
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In the past week I've read this thread, bought 3 books and spent countless hours day dreaming about my own honey and my own mead. Beekeeping for Dummies is an EXCELLENT resource. It took me from complete ignorance all the way to feeling like I could post in this thread and ask intelligent questions, just in 1 read.  I just wish I started this all in January so I didn't have to wait till next year to start my bee adventures. 
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It's okay. I took a year of going to meetings and studying before I started, and that wasn't too much. Look around and find a local beekeeping association. Get a veil and go to their events and you'll learn a bunch, make friends, gain mentors––all stuff you'll need when you start. Don't feel bad that you have to wait. You'll gain a lot by being really prepared ahead of time. kitties |
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| Ok, got my 6th and last swarm for the year. Weighed 8 lbs. I think it's getting late for swarms. I have been feeding this one and the one I got last friday. I think I have a lot of robber bees due to the feeding. The front of these 2 boxes hase enough activity it looks like a swarm in action. The established one just has the usual activity. I will stop feeding them and see what happens. Worst case I will put the feeder in the top box and block part of the opening. Should cut down on the invaders. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
It's okay. I took a year of going to meetings and studying before I started, and that wasn't too much. Look around and find a local beekeeping association. Get a veil and go to their events and you'll learn a bunch, make friends, gain mentors––all stuff you'll need when you start. Don't feel bad that you have to wait. You'll gain a lot by being really prepared ahead of time. kitties For the record–– you don't HAVE to go that route... Never been to a meeting Never had an 'agent' come and 'help' Learned it all from books (it also helped that AIRoot CO was a 10min drive from my parent's house! when I'd visit) That said- I've nurtured 6 WELL established hives for 11 years (3 base supers, queen separated from 3 honey supers- all std size). I have close to 2000lbs of honey in 'storage' (5 gal buckets) I give a huge amount to the church- (baklava and the like) as we're orthodox–– I've dealt with sudden death, bears (actually the bears lost and tasted good), and all forms of disease and mites–– I use NO antibiotics or other chemicals. Me and my bees keep on truckin' but you DO NOT HAVE TO JOIN IN ANY 'SYSTEM' in order to enjoy this very fulfilling hobby.... my thoughts- Honey- the ultimate survival food!! |
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Originally Posted By FordGuy: same here for never been to a meeting, never had agent help, just figured most out on my own and looking at internet... +1 Well.. I did go to one presentation by our local beekeeping group, but they gave me the evil eye once they found out I had a top bar hive. |
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Sorry you guys have had bad experiences with other beekeepers. Being part of a community of beekeepers made getting started a lot easier for me. The ones around here are open to all kinds of things––different styles of beekeeping––all that. We all learn from one another. Plus, half the stuff I have was given to me by older beekeepers who wanted to help new people get started. It made startup costs a lot easier to take. And I don't consider my self as having "joined in a system." I'm just taking advantage of the knowledge around me, and making new friends. My feeling is, why make the same expensive and painful mistakes others have made if you can avoid them by knowing about them in advance? And why buy equipment when you can borrow it? And why buy bees when you have friends who are offering swarms for free? kitties |
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Originally Posted By DUX4LIFE: That's what you should do anyway if you can. Put a box on top and feed from inside. Especially with a new, unestablished hive. They are more susceptible to robbers from organized colonies. Front feeding makes it difficult to manage this. Inside feeding is the way to go. It makes it a lot easier on the new hive. Worst case I will put the feeder in the top box and block part of the opening. Should cut down on the invaders. And I was taught to always reduce the entrance on a new swarm, so they can get their feet under them before they have to guard a wide-open entrance. Following this advice I've been able to minimize robbing. YMMV All that said, the "swarm activity on the front of the hive" may just be because they're hot. Are you using screened bottom boards? Also, if you have not done so, increase ventilation by putting some matchsticks or something very thin under the top cover (not anything big enough to create an actual "entrance"––just something to create a draft through the hive from bottom to top, so they get more ventilation and cool off a little). You may know all this already, but I figure it's worth putting in for any new people reading. |
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Every weekend I drive between Houston and Beaumont and I've been watching this set of hives (probably 20) in a field on the way. The guy had them all lined out about 4 boxes high, then one weekend he stacked them 8 or so high, then another weekend they're all gone. What the heck? These were all about a month apart.
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He's probablly using them for pollination––or renting them out for pollination, and moved them to whatever farm/crop he wants them to work. Just a guess, but that's about the only reason to move hives like that––all at once. kitties |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Just a bump to see if anyone has gotten any honey.  I harvested a little bit back at the end of January. Only enough for the gentlemen that lets me keep my hives on his property and a little bit for myself and family. Sorry, no pics
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Originally Posted By M60forever: Does the honey from local bees really help a persons allergies? In my experience, yes. It makes sense if you understand where honey comes from. But I don't know that there is scientific evidence of this. I just don't know about that last part. My experience is enough for me.
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There's a series of six "webinars" through Penn State scheduled to start in January that are designed for the beginning beekeeper in mind. They're free and more info can be found here: http://clinton.extension.psu.edu/Hort/webinar/10Beekeeping.htm Have you ever thought of beekeeping but didn’t know how to start? Maybe this webinar series is for you. This course is geared for potential and novice beekeepers. Topics such as bee biology, hive location, hive equipment, package installation and other subject matter will be covered. The series will lay a good knowledge foundation before you start into this fun and exciting enterprise. |
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That looks like an excellent series.
Not a substitute for getting to know other beekeepers and in-person workshops, I think, but still very valuable. kitties |
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Here's a link to a cool thread by FordGuy on his monthly beekeeping activities.
here kitties |
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Originally Posted By Cockatoo:
Hey KWS, I've closed off the entrance to my hive all but about an inch now for the winter. Is your hive weak and somehow susceptible to robbing? If not, you may wish to leave more room for airflow. I leave the screened bottom boards on my hives open all winter now. Ventilation is a good thing and keeps the inside of the hive from raining on the bees due to condensation. Some people who know a lot more than I know have told me that more bees die from being wet and thus freezing than die from cold air. Once they get wet and it gets cold at night, they're goners. YMMV and all that. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By KG5S:
50 LBS ....WOW thats a bunch of honey ! I had no idea they could produce that much . I just thought it would be a cool hobby with a little something sweet at the end. This is a GOOD reason to get into beekeeping. It is a very cool hobby. You will never be bored. You will never learn all there is to know. You will never stop worrying about your bees. Tomorrow I will get uxb to upload some pics of our equipment and classes and such to fototime, and I'll post them here if you want to see. Kitties When I first started I had 2 hives, each had 3 full shallow supers from the spring honey flow. It was 180pounds. I also had a good fall/summer crop that year. |
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KWS, I've removed the slat from the entrance now.
The hive felt really light , so I've given them a syrup jar. I checked din on them Friday and they were only occupying the brooder box and there were on a few in the first super. I needed no smoke. Sunday they were very active as if was 60+ out. I have 2 empty shallows on the top, should I remove them? |
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Well, the thing about empty shallows is that come spring, before you know it, they will build wax every which way in those shallows. It's a mess when they do that.
I don't know why you'd keep emptys on there in the winter really. So I would probably take those off and leave them with just enough space. One deep for the brood chamber (which includes some honey) and a deep FULL of honey will get them through winter up here (or two shallows). They may need more in a really long, bad winter, but that's about what it takes usually. I don't know how much honey you need to get them through down there, but I would feed them syrup until it gets too cold to do so. Especially if the hive feels light. In the spring, start feeding again as soon as it warms up to 50. Yes, as I think about it, I think I'd take those empty boxes off of there. And if you get any wind, make sure your hive cover is weighted with a sizeable rock to keep it in place. One reason to remove the empties (I assume you mean TOTALLY empty, as in no comb) is that a tall hive blows over more easily in a storm. The top boxes can blow off or the whole thing can topple. Then you've got a helluva mess. Ask me how I know.[img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_blackeye.gif[/img OH, and don't kill me, but if you're feeding on the front, you might WANT to reduce the entrance a bit. Not totally. Just enough to make sure your hive can defend itself. (Smaller entrance means smaller opening to defend from intruders. Does that make sense?) Front feeding (which I do) can encourage robbing. It doesn't always, but it can. If there's no nectar flow, and you're feeding, and your hive is weak, your hive is fair game for anything that is stronger. So just pay attention to your hive. You kind of have to learn to read it. If you have not joined a beekeeping association for your part of the county/region, you ought to do so. Sounds like you like beekeeping. You'll learn a lot from the groups that are connected to the county agent. And you'll get a range of ideas/experiences from your climate and geography. That will help you make the right decisions for you. |
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Originally Posted By mcooper:
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By KG5S:
50 LBS ....WOW thats a bunch of honey ! I had no idea they could produce that much . I just thought it would be a cool hobby with a little something sweet at the end. This is a GOOD reason to get into beekeeping. It is a very cool hobby. You will never be bored. You will never learn all there is to know. You will never stop worrying about your bees. Tomorrow I will get uxb to upload some pics of our equipment and classes and such to fototime, and I'll post them here if you want to see. Kitties When I first started I had 2 hives, each had 3 full shallow supers from the spring honey flow. It was 180pounds. I also had a good fall/summer crop that year. Wow. That's an incredible first year! 
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By mcooper:
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By KG5S:
50 LBS ....WOW thats a bunch of honey ! I had no idea they could produce that much . I just thought it would be a cool hobby with a little something sweet at the end. This is a GOOD reason to get into beekeeping. It is a very cool hobby. You will never be bored. You will never learn all there is to know. You will never stop worrying about your bees. Tomorrow I will get uxb to upload some pics of our equipment and classes and such to fototime, and I'll post them here if you want to see. Kitties When I first started I had 2 hives, each had 3 full shallow supers from the spring honey flow. It was 180pounds. I also had a good fall/summer crop that year. Wow. That's an incredible first year!
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I just looked at my hives today and found the wind blew one of the inner/outer tops off!!! Since it has been cold (low 20's) I looked between the frames. No movement. I feared the worst. Since I was on duty at the time I didn't have any tools with me. I "popped" the empty (beeless) top box off and found a cluster of moving bees in the bottom box. I quickly reassembled the hive and closed it up. This weekend I am moving all 3 hives onto a stand and placing straw bales around them to block the wind. I also need to check the other 3 hives out in the country.
ETA: 2 of the 3 look great. Couldn't get any frames out of the 3rd one to check their status. All 3 had honey in the top box though. Still got to close off some of the openings to help guard against mice. |
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Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By mcooper:
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By KG5S:
50 LBS ....WOW thats a bunch of honey ! I had no idea they could produce that much . I just thought it would be a cool hobby with a little something sweet at the end. This is a GOOD reason to get into beekeeping. It is a very cool hobby. You will never be bored. You will never learn all there is to know. You will never stop worrying about your bees. Tomorrow I will get uxb to upload some pics of our equipment and classes and such to fototime, and I'll post them here if you want to see. Kitties When I first started I had 2 hives, each had 3 full shallow supers from the spring honey flow. It was 180pounds. I also had a good fall/summer crop that year. Wow. That's an incredible first year!
The average reported yield in MS last year was over 100 pounds per hive. I just hope the three I'm bringing through winter give me that much. I am expanding to at least five hives this spring...so maybe I can get more than 300 pounds. Is anyone using the mite-away pads? |
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Originally Posted By Pigaloo:
Originally Posted By FordGuy:
confused....host as in own? Yes. Basically "bee" a bee landlord.  What you need, if you don't want to do the work involved, is to contract with a local beekeeper to place hives on your property for pollination. You will need to pay a small fee per hive, based on the number of trees/acres that a healthy hive of bees can effectively cover. If you don't actually want to be a beekeeper, this is the best way. Bees take some management if you want them to be successful. I know I will get some argument from other beekeepers, but here's the common sense truth––- You'll hear them say, "Bees in the wild survive on their own." Okay in the larger sense, this is true. But "bees in the wild" is not ONE HIVE. Bees in the wilde are ALL BEES in the wild. And as a WHOLE, yes, they survive on their own in the wild. Some hives survive, some die. Some split off and swarm and the swarm dies. Some split off and die and the hive dies and the swarm survives. Okay none of this makes any sense to you, but the point is that in the wild, a hive may or may not survive. What you want, it sounds like, is for the hives on YOUR PROPERTY, in which YOU INVEST TIME AND MONEY to survive. Not just bees as a whole. So if you want bees CONSISTENTLY ON YOUR PROPERTY, those bees will need management by a beekeeper who knows what he/she is doing. Okay now that we are all on sort of the same page about this..... So, if you get a beekeeper to place hives on your property, you will get no honey. But really, neither will the beekeeper if they're only being used only for pollination. If the beekeeper plans to leave the bees in place for the entire year, rather than just the pollination season, then he/she might agree to reduce the fee a bit for you, since there IS, then, a possibility of some honey for the beekeeper. But then the beekeeper has to travel to tend the bees....so see the balancing act that happens here? What I'm saying is don't expect to be a "bee host" and get honey, AND have your bees survive, without either making the commitment to tend the bees (which you will not enjoy if you are not interested in bees) or paying a beekeeper to do it and forgetting about honey. As an explanation, does this help? kitties |
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Originally Posted By mcooper:
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By mcooper:
Originally Posted By Kitties-with-Sigs:
Originally Posted By KG5S:
50 LBS ....WOW thats a bunch of honey ! I had no idea they could produce that much . I just thought it would be a cool hobby with a little something sweet at the end. This is a GOOD reason to get into beekeeping. It is a very cool hobby. You will never be bored. You will never learn all there is to know. You will never stop worrying about your bees. Tomorrow I will get uxb to upload some pics of our equipment and classes and such to fototime, and I'll post them here if you want to see. Kitties When I first started I had 2 hives, each had 3 full shallow supers from the spring honey flow. It was 180pounds. I also had a good fall/summer crop that year. Wow. That's an incredible first year!
The average reported yield in MS last year was over 100 pounds per hive. I just hope the three I'm bringing through winter give me that much. I am expanding to at least five hives this spring...so maybe I can get more than 300 pounds. Is anyone using the mite-away pads? That's a great average yield! I hope you get it too. Up here the yield is not that good. And I just hope my bees survive. It has been a hard winter thus far, and I have not been feeding. I may have to start over, but Hallelujah, I have a new job! And I am considering moving them to the other side of the yard and giving the bad neighbors the finger.
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