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2/17/2026 7:27:09 PM EDT
I'm between the Browning X Bolt 2 270 and Winchester M70.  Winchester uses non standard threading, weights more, and has fewer caliber options while costing over $500 more.
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2/17/2026 10:17:16 PM EDT
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@BillyDBerger

I only have 1 rifle with controlled feed- a CZ550 in 9.3x62. I used it for brown bear and moose.

The rest of my hunting rifles are all push-feed (Rem, Win, Howa).

If you're gonna use it to hunt something that can eat you, controlled feed may be a comfort, otherwise it ain't worth extra weight and $500.
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2/18/2026 8:14:17 AM EDT
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Push feed is fine unless youre hunting dangerous game like lions etc. Even then you can get by with a push feed but most people recommend a CRF rifle.

I only have 2 which never get used. A Win model 70 7-08 and a mauser .243.

I have a couple dozen push feeds. The one I took the last deer was a Bergara 6cm.
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2/18/2026 6:34:20 PM EDT
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Only controlled round feed rifle I have is an old Spanish Mauser that I haven't pulled out of the safe in years.

All my bolt action deer rifles are push feed.   They work just fine.
2/18/2026 7:25:34 PM EDT
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Everyone goes on and on about you must have a CRF for dangerous game but millions have gone into battle with M-16’s M-14’s, FAL, AK’s and HK which are all lush feed and they a animal they are hunting shoots back.

If a CRF rustles your Jimmie’s go for it.

I have 2 9.3’a o e is CRF and Tue other isn’t. The PF is the o e that has actually seen game.

My 416 is a PF. My 338/06 AI is CRF.

To me it makes no difference.
2/19/2026 12:01:18 AM EDT
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Controlled round feed is strongly desired. I like Mausers, and Winchester model 70s.
2/19/2026 12:12:09 AM EDT
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It's strongly desired for what reason?  Deer ain't dangerous game unless you're hunting them w/ a motorcycle.
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2/19/2026 12:14:53 AM EDT
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It's strongly desired for what reason?  Deer ain't dangerous game unless you're hunting them w/ a motorcycle.
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:  Controlled round feed is strongly desired. I like Mausers, and Winchester model 70s.


It's strongly desired for what reason?  Deer ain't dangerous game unless you're hunting them w/ a motorcycle.

If I have the option, (and I do), then I want controlled round feed. It's more reliable, and you get a massive extractor. There's no downside, because single loading isn't part of my world.
2/19/2026 1:09:10 AM EDT
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If I have the option, (and I do), then I want controlled round feed. It's more reliable, and you get a massive extractor. There's no downside, because single loading isn't part of my world.
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:  Controlled round feed is strongly desired. I like Mausers, and Winchester model 70s.


It's strongly desired for what reason?  Deer ain't dangerous game unless you're hunting them w/ a motorcycle.


If I have the option, (and I do), then I want controlled round feed. It's more reliable, and you get a massive extractor. There's no downside, because single loading isn't part of my world.


There's a specific downside for OP.  A $500 downside.  You really feel controlled round feed is necessary when hunting deer?
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2/19/2026 8:14:24 AM EDT
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There's a specific downside for OP.  A $500 downside.  You really feel controlled round feed is necessary when hunting deer?
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
Originally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By ELittlefield:  Controlled round feed is strongly desired. I like Mausers, and Winchester model 70s.


It's strongly desired for what reason?  Deer ain't dangerous game unless you're hunting them w/ a motorcycle.


If I have the option, (and I do), then I want controlled round feed. It's more reliable, and you get a massive extractor. There's no downside, because single loading isn't part of my world.


There's a specific downside for OP.  A $500 downside.  You really feel controlled round feed is necessary when hunting deer?

Well I didn't create OP's dichotomy, but I'll stick with yes. I would take the Winchester over the Browning due to CRF.

Bolt actions are not as perfectly reliable as the internet would have us believe. They can and do jam, often spectacularly. I would submit that someone who has not had a bolt action jam on them doesn't use them very much. If I'm going to have one bolt action hunting rifle, it will have CRF.
2/19/2026 9:18:28 AM EDT
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I like CRF, but I'd choose a Ruger M77/Hawkeye over a new Winchester, personally.
2/19/2026 9:31:05 AM EDT
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As long as your push-feed rifle feeds well it's no problem. In Africa control-feed was desired for it's control of the cartridge when you have the rifle in orientations besides being level when reloading - like when you are trying to hide behind a tree and reload holding the rifle vertically (up or down) when a Cape Buffalo or Elephant or leopard has turned the tables and is now hunting you.

Edit: Corrected where I put push-feed when I meant control-feed. Thanks Auxcoastie

2/19/2026 11:35:30 AM EDT
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As long as your push-feed rifle feeds well it's no problem. In Africa push-feed was desired for it's control of the cartridge when you have the rifle in orientations besides being level when reloading - like when you are trying to hide behind a tree and reload holding the rifle vertically (up or down) when a Cape Buffalo or Elephant or leopard has turned the tables and is now hunting you.
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@engineer61 just pointing out you mean Controlled Round Feed here.

OP I have both types and my push feed rifle did great in Africa for my animals but I did use a CRF WInchester 70 for my cape buffalo and bought one when I got home.

When I go back to Africa I will take my CRF model 70 Alaskan because its CRF and I plan to hunt free range where while stalking the impala big mean critters might show up.

Rem 700s used to have the tiniest crappy extractors which launched alot of the worry that exists out there. Browning uses a Sako/M-16 style extractor and will work fine for both.

For deer anything will work, for hogs Browning will work great though as I like overkill I would get the CRF for chasing hogs on the ground but that is just a love of overkill.

Buy the browning and spend the extra on ammo and trophy mounts.

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