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8/4/2021 7:47:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seek2][Edited] [#1]
We'll start in 16/500, but a move to 8/500 is likely based on how bad conditions are.

I had much better copy on NMBMXER's last transmission but still probably 60-70% at most.

THOR Micro is supported by fairly recent FLdigi versions, might be something to try after the net.
It's supposedly good to -18dB, but that's only 1 dB better than Olivia 8/500.


ETA: I'm S3-S5 noise with a 500 Hz passband on the 7300.

Copy on NMBMXER is still about 60-70%. Copied a signal report to redbird.

ETA #2: Solid copy on greendragon NMBMXER signal report.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 7:58:10 PM EDT
[#2]
I am decoding from NC, but I'm not hearing it come through. I look up at my computer, and it's there.
8/4/2021 8:00:33 PM EDT
[#3]
I posted a picture of my fishfinder on the last page, something is making noise from 7114-7116 here. Not a loud as last week but it's hard to see any signals less than S9+.
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 8:02:21 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm getting very strong S8 pulse noise on 7114.  Not copying NC much at all.
8/4/2021 8:05:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Lost everything S9 jamming, on all antennas.
8/4/2021 8:06:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seek2][Edited] [#6]
Not hearing anyone. I'll give a couple follow up calls and then try 8/500 I guess.

ETA: Got weaponeer on the follow-up call.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:07:38 PM EDT
[#7]
If NC is sending out, I'm not getting anything. If someone could call for relay needed at some point
8/4/2021 8:08:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Redbirdxx][Edited] [#8]
Not hearing net control here. Was talking to my kid, looked at the clock, checked fldigi, nothing since my exchange with Nmbmxer


edit, last copy here was Nmbmxer's response to GreenDragon pre-net
8/4/2021 8:08:34 PM EDT
[#9]
I can't hear anything and have no decodes with the sql off. What about a QSY up to 7118?
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 8:09:53 PM EDT
[#10]
I hear voices on 7114
8/4/2021 8:10:54 PM EDT
[#11]
I barely had copy on weaponeer.

I doubt 8/500 will do any better given I have zip on the screen.

I'll try a couple more times and then I think QSY to 14067.5

Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:12:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Redbirdxx][Edited] [#12]
I have traffic at 7118. Clear between 7080 and 7090 here.


Edit- rgr on the move to 20m
8/4/2021 8:15:08 PM EDT
[#13]
I'm getting Nmbmxer at ~+10 right now.  Copied bits of pre-net from him and Redbird.
8/4/2021 8:15:11 PM EDT
[#14]
I just caught the end of a transmission. Some one saying they were all alone
8/4/2021 8:15:59 PM EDT
[#15]
OK move to 20M... 14067.5.

Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:17:24 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote History
Originally Posted By cmatcher:
I just caught the end of a transmission. Some one saying they were all alone
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Some one must have been transmitting Pink Floyd lyrics...
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 8:17:31 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm on 20 now and hearing Nmbmxer but not NC.
8/4/2021 8:19:33 PM EDT
[#18]
much better on 20M. Copy NMBMXER and redbird so far.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:26:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cmatcher][Edited] [#19]
Well I don't know anyone's call signs but whoever is working on the Honda is coming in great for me in Ohio
8/4/2021 8:30:05 PM EDT
[#20]
It looks like the winlink guys are up and operating!  
8/4/2021 8:32:16 PM EDT
[#21]
GreenDragon at -8.  Replying station -8 to -12
8/4/2021 8:40:39 PM EDT
[#22]
Man, that was rough.  I guess my portable setup needs some improvement.
8/4/2021 8:40:50 PM EDT
[#23]
I've had 100% copy on every one except Bill which I didn't see at all.
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 8:48:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Thor Micro is one of those paint drying kinda modes.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:49:58 PM EDT
[#25]
I see you at 1480 here, I'm going to tx at the same spot and we'll see how it goes.
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 8:52:42 PM EDT
[#26]
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Originally Posted By Nmbmxer:
I see you at 1480 here, I'm going to tx at the same spot and we'll see how it goes.
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One of us needs to calibrate, I'll put that on my to-do list to see if I'm off.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:54:48 PM EDT
[#27]
I didn't know if I should use RIT or not, I see GreenDragon on 1500.
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 8:57:25 PM EDT
[#28]
Pretty sure the mode handles the RX adjustment. I think they said it'll copy up to 150Hz off.

It's slow but I'm seeing everyone in the waterfall solidly.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 8:58:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Want to try it on 7114?
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/4/2021 9:01:07 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By Nmbmxer:
Want to try it on 7114?
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Sure, I'm doing my SK message now and then I'll move to 7114.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 9:04:58 PM EDT
[#31]
For the net summary:

six stations, 1 on 40M and then 5 with a dupe on 20M.

40M conditions were beyond rough -- unusable. 20M was much better but variable.

Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 9:18:19 PM EDT
[#32]
THOR Micro would work if we're really desperate. Definitely need to keep it short on that mode.

I never heard redbirdxx on 40M.

100% copy on NMBMXER and GreenDragon on 40M.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 9:23:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Redbirdxx][Edited] [#33]
I was away for a bit but came back in time for the move to 40 on Thor micro.


Read Nmbmxer and GreenDragon strong, NC was weak and barely readable.
8/4/2021 9:25:16 PM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By seek2:
For the net summary:

six stations, 1 on 40M and then 5 with a dupe on 20M.

40M conditions were beyond rough -- unusable. 20M was much better but variable.

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Was that me you heard on the 40m net session?  I checked in in/out but then totally lost you. 20m was only a little better.

My Ham Radio Deluxe DM780 program doesn’t seem to have Thor Micro.
8/4/2021 9:30:43 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By weaponeer1911:

Was that me you heard on the 40m net session?  I checked in in/out but then totally lost you. 20m was only a little better.

My Ham Radio Deluxe DM780 program doesn’t seem to have Thor Micro.
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Yep, you were the only station I copied on 40M.

Thor micro is a fairly new mode from what I can see, it's supported in FLdigi. It's also open source so presumably HRD will get it eventually.

It's painfully slow but the timing isn't rigid like FT8 is. Prop on 40M is so bad I think there's stations I wouldn't even be able to copy using WSPR.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/4/2021 9:38:02 PM EDT
[#36]
I have to study up on Olivia and fldigi, only digital mode I've used so far is FT8. Seems to be the only digital mode on 10m right now with propagation being what it is.

I did pick up a few sentences/words, so that is encouraging. Most everyone was below the noise, so setting the squelch slider low enough to decode just introduced gibberish. That and I only setup my antenna at 18', I'll try the 33' one next time, it just takes a bit more to setup.
8/4/2021 9:42:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Thanks for running net tonight.

For me, the prenet 40m was pretty good, then it took a major dump.

20m was better, and I was able to read most stations, except the last one. It was still sporadic and none were at 100%

THOR micro seemed to do well on both 20 and 40, just super slow. Definitely Q codes and other short hand would be useful.
8/8/2021 11:17:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mach][Edited] [#38]
This week I will try checking into the net while very remote kayak camping. I will have a 20 watt radio, small battery and a 40m dipole as high up in a tree as I can get. I will be using an air gapped android tablet for olivia and keying the mic to transmit

assuming it isnt raining

I may need a relay

I will not have an internet connection and will only have 40m available

If a different mode will be used someone please transmit what the mode is on olivia 16-500

thanks
Mach
Nobody is coming to save us.

.
8/9/2021 12:03:02 AM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By Mach:
This week I will try checking into the net while very remote kayak camping. I will have a 20 watt radio, small battery and a 40m dipole as high up in a tree as I can get. I will be using an air gapped android tablet for olivia and keying the mic to transmit

assuming it isnt raining

I may need a relay

I will not have an internet connection and will only have 40m available

If a different mode will be used someone please transmit what the mode is on olivia 16-500

thanks
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Will do.

Considering your situation I don't think other modes will be necessary. 16/500 is already one of the best low SNR modes
and Thor micro is just way too slow to be practical and was more just to see if it'd work.

It's a bit early but the current forecast here is warning about another wave a thunderstorms hitting my area, but hopefully none
happens during net time.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 4:37:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Assuming no active lightning in the area I will NC tonight. I do have active storms around me at
the moment but so far no lightning.

Usual time, frequency and mode: 0000Z, 7114KHz, 16/500 Olivia.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 7:11:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seek2][Edited] [#41]
First reminder out a tiny bit late (2308Z).

Had some far off thunder but sunshine is hitting the antenna right now.

Band appears pretty quiet and/or dead.

ETA: 2315Z sent now too.

ETA2: Copying weaponeer1911 testing. In the past 15 minutes a thunderstorm has rolled in,
strikefinder showed 7 miles out and just dropped to 6 miles, seems to be heading right for me.

ETA3: 2330Z reminder sent.

ETA4: Also calling Mach between announcements in hopes he's listening ahead of net.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 7:34:02 PM EDT
[#42]
I've got S4 noise on the band, and S9 noise right on our freq.  I think I saw where NC tried to respond to my test mesg, but only got parts of callsigns.

Just got partial copy on the 30 min reminder.   Not looking too good here tonight.

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8/11/2021 7:39:11 PM EDT
[#43]
Band is definitely in rough shape here.

Strikes seem to be holding at 6 miles for the moment.

Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 8:03:21 PM EDT
[#44]
Arrived home and fired up the radio just before 1900 local, not hearing anything on 7114
8/11/2021 8:03:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Nmbmxer][Edited] [#45]
I have the same S9+ noise from 7114-7116 as last week, I doubt I am going to hear anything.

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Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/11/2021 8:04:50 PM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By Nmbmxer:
I have the same S9+ noise from 7114-7116 as last week, I doubt I am going to hear anything.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/68732/5BA6787F-796F-4716-BF54-2637913A35BE_jpe-2049133.JPG
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40M is looking pretty dead, I'll try on 40 for a few and then switch to 20.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 8:09:44 PM EDT
[#47]
Got weaponeer1911 in/out at +10dB SNR here.

Couple more calls and I'll switch to 14067.5.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 8:10:34 PM EDT
[#48]
I just had 80% on weaponeer1911 checking in/out but that is the only TX I've decoded.
Silent Brigade, 1/20/20: Dangerous wankers to a one. 3rd rate BB
8/11/2021 8:13:01 PM EDT
[#49]
QSY 14067.5 now.
Like most living things, you run them through a combine, it'll pretty much take care of it.
8/11/2021 8:22:02 PM EDT
[#50]
I don't have the S9 noise on 20m.  Nice and quiet, but I can barely copy NC.  Got about 25% copy.

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