Posted: 8/26/2021 9:59:18 PM EDT
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I don't know where to put this so I'm putting it here. November hunt, night temps in the single digits (rare but possible) and teens. Mornings in the 20s and 30s. Rain possible. Wind for certain. Probably going to put down a foam mat and set up a tent in the bed of my truck to stay off the ground. Interested in options for a tent and sleeping bag(s). I don't have a grand to spend on gear. Thanks. |
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Hog fencing and, tarps. Make it look like a covered wagon. Mr. Heater Heater Buddy connected to a 20lbs propane tank. Use the tank filter or you will trash the Heater Buddy. Use a cot with your sleeping bag. |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does.
Yes. Yes it does.
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Originally Posted By tucansam: I don't know where to put this so I'm putting it here. November hunt, night temps in the single digits (rare but possible) and teens. Mornings in the 20s and 30s. Rain possible. Wind for certain. Probably going to put down a foam mat and set up a tent in the bed of my truck to stay off the ground. Interested in options for a tent and sleeping bag(s). I don't have a grand to spend on gear. Thanks. With a foam pad under you and a good mummy bag, you should be able to stay warm fine. Get a bag rated to -20F or thereabouts, because the way they're rated does not match reality. As for tent... just one that will fit in your bed. If you expect heavy snow, get a 4-season, otherwise a 3-season is fine. You can also get a cot with the foam pad, and then not have to worry about fitting the tent in the back of your truck. |
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Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Hog fencing and, tarps. Make it look like a covered wagon. Mr. Heater Heater Buddy connected to a 20lbs propane tank. Use the tank filter or you will trash the Heater Buddy. Use a cot with your sleeping bag. Dumb question: does the portable heater give off gas? That is to say, its to be run with a window or two open, in a tent? |
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Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: With a foam pad under you and a good mummy bag, you should be able to stay warm fine. Get a bag rated to -20F or thereabouts, because the way they're rated does not match reality. As for tent... just one that will fit in your bed. If you expect heavy snow, get a 4-season, otherwise a 3-season is fine. Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: With a foam pad under you and a good mummy bag, you should be able to stay warm fine. Get a bag rated to -20F or thereabouts, because the way they're rated does not match reality. As for tent... just one that will fit in your bed. If you expect heavy snow, get a 4-season, otherwise a 3-season is fine. Awesome info, thank you. Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: You can also get a cot with the foam pad, and then not have to worry about fitting the tent in the back of your truck. You mean sleep on cot + pad and forgo the tent altogether? |
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I mean, I’m definitely no expert but I did spend a night out in ~20F temps in an improvised c-fly tarp shelter, wearing only ACUs, thermals, and wool socks, with a Snugpak jungle blanket and thermarest pad. It was not fun. The next night I slept in the truck, still got chilly  I’d recommend a bag rated down to 0 (or below), a good pad, thermals, wool socks, and watch cap. As far as a tent goes, the USGI ICS (Improved Combat Shelter) is rather inexpensive and should stand up to wind, rain, and some snow very well. The interior footprint is plenty big enough for 1 person + gear, and it should fit in your truck bed with the tailgate down (Assuming a 6’ or longer bed) |
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Originally Posted By tucansam: Awesome info, thank you. You mean sleep on cot + pad and forgo the tent altogether? Originally Posted By tucansam: Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: With a foam pad under you and a good mummy bag, you should be able to stay warm fine. Get a bag rated to -20F or thereabouts, because the way they're rated does not match reality. As for tent... just one that will fit in your bed. If you expect heavy snow, get a 4-season, otherwise a 3-season is fine. Awesome info, thank you. Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: You can also get a cot with the foam pad, and then not have to worry about fitting the tent in the back of your truck. You mean sleep on cot + pad and forgo the tent altogether? No, sorry - I still meant in a tent. You want the tent to keep rain, snow, and bugs off of you. But then the tent can be on the ground and you can still be super comfy. TBH, the foam pad will keep you warm even if you're on the ground - but depending on the lay of the ground, it might not be comfortable. |
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Originally Posted By tucansam: Dumb question: does the portable heater give off gas? That is to say, its to be run with a window or two open, in a tent? Originally Posted By tucansam: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Hog fencing and, tarps. Make it look like a covered wagon. Mr. Heater Heater Buddy connected to a 20lbs propane tank. Use the tank filter or you will trash the Heater Buddy. Use a cot with your sleeping bag. Dumb question: does the portable heater give off gas? That is to say, its to be run with a window or two open, in a tent? It’s designed for this purpose. Heater buddy I’ve used one of these since 2003 in a variety of places. Tents are naturally vented, but trailers and camper shells need to have their vent or window cracked. Oh yeah. Get a piss bottle. Or two. |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does.
Yes. Yes it does.
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If you are going to be camping out of your car and never plan on having to carry it I would get a rectangular sleeping bag. After half a dozen elk hunts squashed inside a mummy bag I got one of the Cabellas outfitters bags. It is much more comfortable, especially if you toss and turn. Since the horses were carrying it the fact it weighs a metric ton wasn't a real issue. It doens't have a hood though which means you will need to wear a cap to keep your head warm. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cabelas-outfitter-xl-20-sleeping-bag |
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Originally Posted By BFskinner: If you are going to be camping out of your car and never plan on having to carry it I would get a rectangular sleeping bag. This. Getting a Wiggy’s rectangular (hooded) bag to keep in the truck was one of the best choices I’ve ever made. It’s useless for backpacking but amazingly comfy. If you’re still in Maine, I’d get a zero degree bag. |
| If you’re essentially just truck camping and have space around your truck, you could also just set up a large tarp over the whole truck or bed with some rope. Since you’re not hiking with the gear, just bring the best blanket/sleeping bag you have in addition to the foam pad. |
| I camped in New Mexico at elevation for a month in 2019. Several nights below zero, couple days it didn’t get out of the teens, and snow at the end. I was as comfortable as I could be with a -20 degree bag I got at sportsman warehouse in Albuquerque and a 2inch inflatable mat. |
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Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Oh yeah. Get a piss bottle. Or two. Hah. If you're getting up to piss more than maybe once during the night when camping (but you don't at home), it's generally because you're sleeping really shallow, too shallow for your body to do the regular thing of suppressing urine production. Getting more physically comfortable and/or just getting your brain used to sleeping in a tent usually lets you sleep deeper, and not have to keep getting up. It happens to me the first couple times camping in the season, then I get used to it and it stops. Now if you're getting up to piss a bunch at home, too... ask your doctor if flomax might be right for you.
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Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: Hah. If you're getting up to piss more than maybe once during the night when camping (but you don't at home), it's generally because you're sleeping really shallow, too shallow for your body to do the regular thing of suppressing urine production. Getting more physically comfortable and/or just getting your brain used to sleeping in a tent usually lets you sleep deeper, and not have to keep getting up. It happens to me the first couple times camping in the season, then I get used to it and it stops. Now if you're getting up to piss a bunch at home, too... ask your doctor if flomax might be right for you. Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Oh yeah. Get a piss bottle. Or two. Hah. If you're getting up to piss more than maybe once during the night when camping (but you don't at home), it's generally because you're sleeping really shallow, too shallow for your body to do the regular thing of suppressing urine production. Getting more physically comfortable and/or just getting your brain used to sleeping in a tent usually lets you sleep deeper, and not have to keep getting up. It happens to me the first couple times camping in the season, then I get used to it and it stops. Now if you're getting up to piss a bunch at home, too... ask your doctor if flomax might be right for you. Well, then there’s the part about hanging around the campfire drinking beer aspect. But I get what you’re saying. I typically wake once to piss, then again around dawn- so it’s nice to be able to use a piss bottle ( with lid ) And climb back into the fart bag for a while. |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does.
Yes. Yes it does.
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Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Well, then there’s the part about hanging around the campfire drinking beer aspect. But I get what you’re saying. Hah, I get what you're saying. I forget that I'm a bit different than a lot of other campers. No campfire for me... when I camp, I've been quite active all day, and by the time the sun is getting low, I'm usually BEAT. I set up my tent, cook some easy-to-fix food, and go the frick to sleep.
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Currently "camping" in ME. Got down to 50 last night, which is great sleeping weather. Wife and I have been living in this for over a year, and will continue until we find a place we like and prices relax. We will keep this AWD high for domestic travel, domestic clashes and hunting/camping. Makes no sense to sell it as we love it. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: Hah, I get what you're saying. I forget that I'm a bit different than a lot of other campers. No campfire for me... when I camp, I've been quite active all day, and by the time the sun is getting low, I'm usually BEAT. I set up my tent, cook some easy-to-fix food, and go the frick to sleep. Originally Posted By GlutealCleft: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Well, then there’s the part about hanging around the campfire drinking beer aspect. But I get what you’re saying. Hah, I get what you're saying. I forget that I'm a bit different than a lot of other campers. No campfire for me... when I camp, I've been quite active all day, and by the time the sun is getting low, I'm usually BEAT. I set up my tent, cook some easy-to-fix food, and go the frick to sleep.  This is my set up for dirt bike/hunting camp when I'm by myself. Attached File |
"Some of the greatest dads I've ever seen weren't so much perfect as they were willing to work hard to overcome their failings. Does that make sense?"
Yes. Yes it does.
Yes. Yes it does.
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Originally Posted By purevl2: Currently "camping" in ME. Got down to 50 last night, which is great sleeping weather. Wife and I have been living in this for over a year, and will continue until we find a place we like and prices relax. We will keep this AWD high for domestic travel, domestic clashes and hunting/camping. Makes no sense to sell it as we love it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215800/20210815_104527_exported_1629229441704_j-2069188.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215800/20210816_173948_jpg-2069189.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/215800/20210718_091135_jpg-2069192.JPG What do you hunt? Do you butcher your kills? I may have missed the pictures in the other thread. |
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| If any of you old timers remember the Northeast Campouts in PA, we camped year round in a reclaimed strip mine. We used a 3.5 season tent with a little Heater Buddy, doubled up sleeping bags and cots with a pad for insulation. We camped thru rain, snow, wind, etc and we're reasonably comfortable. I woke up one morning with my boots frozen to the floor... it was 14 below zero. |
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Truck bad tents would work but you have to; A. have an empty bed to set it up. B. Some form of cushioning on the floor to imsulate and give you something to walk on. (try walking or moving around on a bare corrugated truck bed floor) c. Break camp any time you want to drive somewhere. You could consider a regular tent set up however you like with a diesel heater. Rune to heater away from the tent and feed the heat duct through the door or whatever. Holee shiite! I should really check the original posting date before replying. Oops... |
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Tent cot with rain fly. I highly doubt you are going to have room for a truck tent. Another poster already covered the sleeping bag. You could just rent a small UHaul and put a air mattress in it, seen that done before. I'm too paranoid to go to sleep with a Buddy Heater running, but it would be nice after you wake up. |
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I’ve spent many a cold night in below freezing conditions in Tue back of my Expedition in Kansas, Co and Wy. Double thermarest closed cell foam pad with a GI poncho liner on top to trap mor air. Depending on temps it could be the 40 deg down bag and a Kifaru woobie. Same woobie and a 20 deg bag. 40 deg inside the 20 deg bag and if necessary a second woobie over the top. The one thing I do differently is I unzip Tue bags and use them like a big blanket with a foot pocket. Pretty much allows me to gather the excess any way I choose around me. I’ve used this setup outdoors down to 0 deg and been just fine. Once nice thing is being able to turn on the engine if I need to and in about 15-20 min I’m toasty warm. I usually do this before I rack out and then shut it off and repeat the process if I open the side door to step out and pee. To save on budget you could substitute GI woobies for the expensive Kifaru ones. |