Posted: 6/14/2025 9:45:07 PM EDT
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Question The brush around my property is bad I dint wanna use chemicals because there's my well ) still out of service ) and a nice flowing creek below the house I'm at the mountains base so I get alot of water thru it Been toying with the idea of getting kune kunes or goats Attached File Attached File Attached File It's like 10 acres but I just wanna clear 2-3 for now #1 fencing Don't have any Tried t post but the shale is horrible Those plastic fence post seen to work when I put a fee in when I 1st bought tye place in 2019 Will these on a solar charger hold them back Attached File What's easier Goats or kune kunes |
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I'm a SME of sorts on this sort of thing but from the photos you may live in the South Eastern US? I don't know your plants well.at all. The first thing I would do is download a plant identification App on your phone. I use picture this however it is not free. There may be a free id app but I'm unaware of it. Many plants are poisonous to goats especially nightshades. Many people think "goats will eat anything " and they will eat many plants that will kill them while refusing others unless they are starving. ID all your plants then do a Google search of goat toxicity and go from there. There is a huge upfront cost in fencing. If you want goats then go for it . If you just want the land cleared find another way it will cost less and be less labor. That fence you listed is shit tier garbage. Look at Premier1 electronet. Any goat that jumps a 35 inch net should be sold or slaughtered immediately. Disregard energizer under 1 Joule for portable net. They are frequently grounded and you need at least 7000v on the fence to reliably hold goats. I'll start there. |
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We have about a dozen Nigerian Dwarfs, Premier electric netting, and solar chargers. It works pretty well. The solar chargers can get run down when the days get shorter and it's cloudy. Here's a couple before and after pictures, cleaning up some old fence lines. Before: Attached File After: Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: a couple goats or sheep will eat that in days. get a couple at auction, use leads or portable netting, sell or eat in a few weeks A couple of goats will eat off 2-3 acres of overgrown vegetation in a few days? |
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Originally Posted By Buckshot4U: A couple of goats will eat off 2-3 acres of overgrown vegetation in a few days? Originally Posted By Buckshot4U: Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: a couple goats or sheep will eat that in days. get a couple at auction, use leads or portable netting, sell or eat in a few weeks A couple of goats will eat off 2-3 acres of overgrown vegetation in a few days? No. 40 head of goats will clear one acre of heavy brush per week if fenced tight to encourage competitive grazing and not just cherry picking the best forage. |
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I'd just hire a mulcher for three acres. Beats hanging/moving fence and getting goat shit everywhere. Back when I was young and poor I cleared land of weeds and such just by laying a 40'x25' agricultural black plastic tarp on the ground and moving it every couple of weeks. 
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Originally Posted By OregonShooter: No. 40 head of goats will clear one acre of heavy brush per week if fenced tight to encourage competitive grazing and not just cherry picking the best forage. That's kinda why I asked. I feel like the whole "A couple of goats will clean all your brush up in a few days!" line is an overused trope in the wanna be homesteader community. And like others said, installing fence through the brushy areas that will keep goats in is not a small task either - though I guess that's a sunk cost if you were going to install goat fencing anyhow. OP, if you are wanting to run livestock in this area anyhow, then fencing it for goats and turning them in probably isn't a bad idea. Unless the terrain is terrible, a forestry mulcher on a skidsteer with a competent operator is probably going to be faster and cheaper (again - unless you were getting goats regardless). |
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| Goats! We have a few little pygmy goats, and they do a great job of keeping brush and weeds cleaned up. They really will eat just about anything. Any they are really easy to care for.....just make sure they have some shelter, and fresh water...and you are good to go. |
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Originally Posted By Buckshot4U: That's kinda why I asked. I feel like the whole "A couple of goats will clean all your brush up in a few days!" line is an overused trope in the wanna be homesteader community. And like others said, installing fence through the brushy areas that will keep goats in is not a small task either - though I guess that's a sunk cost if you were going to install goat fencing anyhow. OP, if you are wanting to run livestock in this area anyhow, then fencing it for goats and turning them in probably isn't a bad idea. Unless the terrain is terrible, a forestry mulcher on a skidsteer with a competent operator is probably going to be faster and cheaper (again - unless you were getting goats regardless). I operated a "goat grazing " side business for two years 2021-22 until a stroke forced me to shut it down at the end of the 2022 season. I also have a full-time job so I was only using 25-30 head of goats clearing brush in difficult terrain April-October. I still have 15 head and use them to manage brush in a couple farm pastures in exchange for the use of a barn and property year round. I enjoy it but its still a lot of effort even with goats I've raised to be essentially pets and act like dogs. They come running when called and will follow me if they escape the fence. There are applications where clearingbrush with goats is the best tool for the job but they are honestly rare situations and my primary customers were high wealth individuals that wanted brush cleared without chemicals or machinery tearing up ground. I also did some projects for government agencies doing some test blocks "against" forestry mulchers. The goats were higher cost but resulted in less ground compaction. There is definitely an entertainment value for most customers that's hard to quantify as well. Most held parties to watch the process and it wasn't uncommon to need to answer questions from a dozen people when doing daily fence checks. I've seen multiple people doing Yoga next to the fence on public land projects near parks. Keeping people away from the goats was one of the biggest challenges and I had plenty of signs on the electric fence warning of the shock hazard. All gates were zip tied closed to prevent entry. Sometimes that wasn't enough and I would arrive to find 6 people inside the enclosure petting my animals. |
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I'd only mess with goats if they are something you want to keep on the land long term. Depending on your predator (and dumped dog) pressure, factor in a few LGDs as well. Otherwise, as said a competent forestry mulcher will do a great clean-slate, park like setting for you to then manage. A smaller goat herd would be helpful for ongoing brush work, but again only if you really want to have them. Or hunt around for an existing goat operation and see about offering them your land for a season. |
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So I have to ask, what about the collars Clarkson has on his goats in Season 4 of Clarkson's Farm? I know it is a show, but it seems like something of that nature would actually work without having to physically place fence. I can't find any specifics, but something like this:  ETA: NoFence has an article about it specifically! |
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Originally Posted By OregonShooter: No. 40 head of goats will clear one acre of heavy brush per week if fenced tight to encourage competitive grazing and not just cherry picking the best forage. whats in his photos though is light forest understory. there is very little actual browse volume. |
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Originally Posted By TexCorriente: I'd only mess with goats if they are something you want to keep on the land long term. Depending on your predator (and dumped dog) pressure, factor in a few LGDs as well. Otherwise, as said a competent forestry mulcher will do a great clean-slate, park like setting for you to then manage. A smaller goat herd would be helpful for ongoing brush work, but again only if you really want to have them. Or hunt around for an existing goat operation and see about offering them your land for a season. @TexCorriente Sorry been working 6 day weeks and passed out on Sundays Been burned by a few clearing copies wete I kive and lied two simce I bought it in 2019 Last one I prepaid and he never showed on the date Another guy gave me a quote and disappeared Other have siad not worth the hassle Going there right now to check and clean and cook dinner and fore a few rounds I'll take some pics while there and post them tomorrow's Can't get internet service there at all Starlink is a rip Congestion pricing And other fees is around 450.00 and 120 a month May have to check dish which I canceled in December at 125 for 2 boxes Attached File |
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Originally Posted By turtle2472: So I have to ask, what about the collars Clarkson has on his goats in Season 4 of Clarkson's Farm? I know it is a show, but it seems like something of that nature would actually work without having to physically place fence. I can't find any specifics, but something like this: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic-cdn.sr.se%2Fimages%2F2054%2Fdf792190-06d1-4fde-b5fc-58114357df0e.jpg%3Fpreset%3D1024x576&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=350e4285f24a63993fe2c102f2e037a380b2fa8cb8e237ff1c74cded44d0f6d5 ETA: NoFence has an article about it specifically! OK that beats putting digging holes for t post |
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Originally Posted By everready73: I would personally just bite the bullet and hire out a guy with a forestry mulcher. If you only need 3 acres cleared might be able to do it in a day if nothing crazy According to my son this is the way. The last text I got from him on the subject went like this: Son: Damn goats blew through the fence and are running around the (rural) neighborhood Me: Oops Son: Last seen in the pasture across the road with some cows. Me: Well, at least you know where they are hanging out. Son:I’m hiring a forestry mulched. Fuck those goats. If I see them again they are going on the smoker!  |
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Originally Posted By Stryfe: Digging holes FOR T Posts? Originally Posted By Stryfe: Originally Posted By kbi: OK that beats putting digging holes for t post Digging holes FOR T Posts? I have shale dirt/ground were i live I tried a t post tool Nope Then I bought one of those harbor freight in 2021 Attached File Waste of time and sold it real quick But all it did was hit rocks and stones Ended up buying a bar and pick axe in 2023 after seeing this video Attached File  How I Dig Post Holes with Rock & Shale! Takes a while but the system works I just pour cement in the hole when satisfied it's in the right spot 2024 thru this past may I did nothing up there cause I was unemployed and traveled alot doing od jobs all over to cover my mortage Hoping to go home in a moment Need to rent a truck Pick up a dog kennel Get a framing nailer And build a chicken coop Long day today |
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