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Originally Posted By Revelation68: I am thinking maybe two each of Easter Eggers and Leghorns. I need to find a tractor design I like. So far I have not seen one.Originally Posted By Breugel: OK What i would like is to have a few for eggs to start. What is the minimum I should have? I need some that will tolerate some heat as it gets in the 90s with high humidity. In the winter it gets in the 20s and maybe a few nights in the teens. later i may raise some for meat but now i want eggs to learn on. Thanks http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jhenderson/chooks/chooks.html Do you want them just for the most possible eggs you can get? You'd get a White Leghorn, Plymouth Rock, Rhode Island Red, etc. if so. But if you don't need 1 egg a day for nearly 300 days a year out of every chicken, there are many neat breeds that will give you good eggs and are quite friendly as well. If you intend to have no hatched eggs, I'd go with a minimum of 3 hens if possible. 3 and up will do great for you. |
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Originally Posted By Breugel:
I am thinking maybe two each of Easter Eggers and Leghorns. I need to find a tractor design I like. So far I have not seen one. Originally Posted By Breugel:
I like it... My worry is the sun. I do not know where in NC you are but where i am and the way my yard is it can get brutal. I am in the lower Piedmont of NC, so it definitely gets really hot here, although maybe not quite the same as some places in SC. Those breeds sounds like good choices. As far as the heat goes, if you supply them with water and areas of shade, I think you'll be fine with those heat-tolerant birds (like in the chicken chart I posted). |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68: I am in Rock Hill just south of Charlotte. Where do you get your chicks?Originally Posted By Breugel: I am thinking maybe two each of Easter Eggers and Leghorns. I need to find a tractor design I like. So far I have not seen one. Originally Posted By Breugel: I like it... My worry is the sun. I do not know where in NC you are but where i am and the way my yard is it can get brutal. I am in the lower Piedmont of NC, so it definitely gets really hot here, although maybe not quite the same as some places in SC. Those breeds sounds like good choices. As far as the heat goes, if you supply them with water and areas of shade, I think you'll be fine with those heat-tolerant birds (like in the chicken chart I posted). |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
At what point will I know conclusively that the chickens are roosters or hens? Depends on the breed, but usually by 8 weeks you will know. Banties mature faster, so they tend to show a few weeks quicker. It is very easy to get confused by the comb and wattles of some chickens. I would have sworn my Barred Rock was a rooster because its comb was one of the first to come up more noticeably. But now, I wouldn't bet against a hen. My best suggestion is to start watching between 1 month and 2 months old and see which combs jump out and begin turning red, combined with the characteristics of the bird. Some, you can take a good guess by their appearance, their posture, and their nature around the other birds. On the other hand, if you have Silkies...don't hold your breath. 
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Originally Posted By Breugel:
I am in Rock Hill just south of Charlotte. Where do you get your chicks? Oh okay, I know right where you are at. I have gotten my chicks from all different places –– Tractor Supply, Southern States, and then the rest from local "breeders" and/or other folks like us with chickens that buy or hatch extra. Are you looking for something particular or just curious about where to find good birds for general knowledge? |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68: Originally Posted By Breugel: I am in Rock Hill just south of Charlotte. Where do you get your chicks? Oh okay, I know right where you are at. I have gotten my chicks from all different places –– Tractor Supply, Southern States, and then the rest from local "breeders" and/or other folks like us with chickens that buy or hatch extra. Are you looking for something particular or just curious about where to find good birds for general knowledge? When I get ready I would prefer to get them local. |
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Originally Posted By Breugel:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
Originally Posted By Breugel:
I am in Rock Hill just south of Charlotte. Where do you get your chicks? Oh okay, I know right where you are at. I have gotten my chicks from all different places –– Tractor Supply, Southern States, and then the rest from local "breeders" and/or other folks like us with chickens that buy or hatch extra. Are you looking for something particular or just curious about where to find good birds for general knowledge? When I get ready I would prefer to get them local. Well, just let me know when you are close to ready and I'll keep my eyes out for some birds you're looking for and/or help you get some if necessary. |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68: ThanksOriginally Posted By Breugel: Originally Posted By Revelation68: Originally Posted By Breugel: I am in Rock Hill just south of Charlotte. Where do you get your chicks? Oh okay, I know right where you are at. I have gotten my chicks from all different places –– Tractor Supply, Southern States, and then the rest from local "breeders" and/or other folks like us with chickens that buy or hatch extra. Are you looking for something particular or just curious about where to find good birds for general knowledge? When I get ready I would prefer to get them local. Well, just let me know when you are close to ready and I'll keep my eyes out for some birds you're looking for and/or help you get some if necessary. |
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my buddy showed me a cool chicken run idea recently... one of his forum buddies (yeah, they have forums too) built a run that circles his veggie garden, and as a result has a lot fewer bugs eating his plants. I thought that idea was brilliant. Having bugs eat the hell out of your veggies sucks bigtime, and poop/unused eggs can go into the compost heap.
Fresh eggs rock as well, as does fresh chicken (though you'd be surprised how many otherwise sensible folks are squeamish about butchering animals). If I could get away with it (and I will someday), I'd damned sure have chickens. Unfortunately, my HOA would descend on me like the hounds of hell if I tried... but I won't live here forever. My wife's dad is a chicken farmer... he has big ass stinky barns with eleventy billion damned chickens in them. I don't think I'd like to work with poultry on that scale but at least he's a good source of info. |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
I've been putting a galvanized drinker in the house, but every morning it's tipped over or full of crap & hay. Are the hanging ones tough to refill? What other solutions have ya'all come up with? Try running a bungee cord from the drinker to the rafters. You don't necessarily have to suspend the drinker––the cord will keep it from being knocked over though. Our chickens don't seem to knock their drinkers over, but they do knock their feeders over and the bungee cord helps prevent that. 
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
my buddy showed me a cool chicken run idea recently... one of his forum buddies (yeah, they have forums too) built a run that circles his veggie garden, and as a result has a lot fewer bugs eating his plants. I thought that idea was brilliant. Having bugs eat the hell out of your veggies sucks bigtime, and poop/unused eggs can go into the compost heap. Yeah, they call it a "chicken moat". It is a pretty interesting concept and I have seen a few pictures of them, but not too many. Tell him to build one and post pics! 
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Originally Posted By Feral:
Originally Posted By Tacberry:
I've been putting a galvanized drinker in the house, but every morning it's tipped over or full of crap & hay. Are the hanging ones tough to refill? What other solutions have ya'all come up with? Try running a bungee cord from the drinker to the rafters. You don't necessarily have to suspend the drinker––the cord will keep it from being knocked over though. Our chickens don't seem to knock their drinkers over, but they do knock their feeders over and the bungee cord helps prevent that.
As a youngster, I worked in various commercial poultry broiler, breeder, and layer houses. All of them suspended the feed and water systems except for hand feeding/watering chicks for the first week or ten days. As the birds grew larger, the feeders and waterers were raised to a comfortable height for the birds about chest height to them. Hand winches and cable systems were most common but sometimes small chains were used. A small length of chain attached to the feeder/waterer makes height easily adjustable when an "S" hook is used. A wire or even a rope can be attached above the chain to extend to the rafters. Keeping the feeders and waterers off of the ground helps keep the poultry from making much of a mess with them. |
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I read the OP and then skipped to the end, so it's possible that my question has already been addressed...
I'm mostly just curious, but maybe someday I'll give it a try - are people able to raise a few (say, less than 10) chickens by taking advantage of any kind of automation? The reason why I'm asking is that, living alone, there are times when I will go away for a few days or more, which would mean that nobody would be around to tend to the chickens, and yet the chickens will still need to have feed, water, egg collection, security against predators, temperature control during weather extremes, and the like, even when I'm not there. Is anybody actually doing such a thing? |
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Originally Posted By doorknob: I read the OP and then skipped to the end, so it's possible that my question has already been addressed... I'm mostly just curious, but maybe someday I'll give it a try - are people able to raise a few (say, less than 10) chickens by taking advantage of any kind of automation? The reason why I'm asking is that, living alone, there are times when I will go away for a few days or more, which would mean that nobody would be around to tend to the chickens, and yet the chickens will still need to have feed, water, egg collection, security against predators, temperature control during weather extremes, and the like, even when I'm not there. Is anybody actually doing such a thing? You need to make friends with your neighbors. |
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My chicken tractor is 98% done and the birds have moved in. Here is how we did the water and feeder. Used the water nipples on a hanging juice bottle and 2 inch PVC in an L shape with holes cut to access feed. Some more photos of my tractor.    Here is the rear view - nesting box access in the middle and vent ports in the bottom corners.   My girls - 4 barred rocks and 4 Gold Laced Wyandottes, now 9 weeks old.  This is our first experience which chickens and we are learning alot and having fun! |
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Originally Posted By doorknob:
I read the OP and then skipped to the end, so it's possible that my question has already been addressed... I'm mostly just curious, but maybe someday I'll give it a try - are people able to raise a few (say, less than 10) chickens by taking advantage of any kind of automation? The reason why I'm asking is that, living alone, there are times when I will go away for a few days or more, which would mean that nobody would be around to tend to the chickens, and yet the chickens will still need to have feed, water, egg collection, security against predators, temperature control during weather extremes, and the like, even when I'm not there. Is anybody actually doing such a thing? Food and Water: You'd pretty much just get big enough containers to last that long. My 1 feeder chocked full will last every bit of 4 -5 days or so. If you need more, add another container. Security: They do make coop doors that open on timers every so often and they may be able to stay closed at night. Pretty handy, unless the predator breaks in during the day at the exact time the door opens. Temperature Control: Clearly you'd have to run power out there (unless you buy a solar unit, which I'd like), but they make timers for these lights/heat lamps as well. This doubles as an egg production facilitator in winter as well, as chickens won't lay near as much during short days if it is dark more than 8-9 hours. Egg Collection: I'd have to think on it. You may be best suited to just let the chickens sit on the eggs til you get back... |
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Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos:
I know this has been asked before in this thread, but I just can't find it now. How much would the feed cost run per month for 5 or 6 layers? Lets assume without supplementing by free ranging. Thanks. I don't even know if they would eat a 50# bag in a month, depending on what kinds of birds they are. One of those bags runs $20-30, I believe. |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68:
Originally Posted By doorknob:
I read the OP and then skipped to the end, so it's possible that my question has already been addressed... I'm mostly just curious, but maybe someday I'll give it a try - are people able to raise a few (say, less than 10) chickens by taking advantage of any kind of automation? The reason why I'm asking is that, living alone, there are times when I will go away for a few days or more, which would mean that nobody would be around to tend to the chickens, and yet the chickens will still need to have feed, water, egg collection, security against predators, temperature control during weather extremes, and the like, even when I'm not there. Is anybody actually doing such a thing? Food and Water: You'd pretty much just get big enough containers to last that long. My 1 feeder chocked full will last every bit of 4 -5 days or so. If you need more, add another container. Security: They do make coop doors that open on timers every so often and they may be able to stay closed at night. Pretty handy, unless the predator breaks in during the day at the exact time the door opens. Temperature Control: Clearly you'd have to run power out there (unless you buy a solar unit, which I'd like), but they make timers for these lights/heat lamps as well. This doubles as an egg production facilitator in winter as well, as chickens won't lay near as much during short days if it is dark more than 8-9 hours. Egg Collection: I'd have to think on it. You may be best suited to just let the chickens sit on the eggs til you get back... We've usually got about 100 chickens around at any given time, 50 or so meat birds, maybe 30 layers, and some rare breeds my wife raises to resell. We keep them all watered from a central tank (actually a sprayer tank, but bought new so no yucky stuff in it), through hoses to individual pans of water that stay full via cheap float valves. Even with that many chickens, we only have to refill the tank about once a week, and that's only because we don't have a water line run down there. Pan + the float valve & hose probably works out to about $20 per pen; currently 4-5 pens going at any given time. Well worth the $$. |
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Food and Water:
Many food/water dispensers intended for pets can be adapted for poultry use. For instance, a self-dispensing dog feeder would work and holds #25 of feed. Likewise, a dog watering dish that connects to a hose for automatic watering would provide fresh water. Egg Collection:
Usually isn't a problem. You can skip several days of collecting- the eggs won't go bad. The risk is that something will eat the eggs and it can be one of your chickens eating them. |
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Thanks for all of the replies to my question - it looks like it could indeed be feasible for me to raise chickens even if I have to occasionally travel for a few days at a time...
The 'meet your neighbors' advice is good - but I'm planning for a possible future location that I don't even own yet, so that part will have to wait... |
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Hey Feral,
The PVC trick works wonderfully well rolling my tractor around! It is nice also because it is slick so I can easily "steer" the coop around by sliding it on the pipe and not just roll it side to side. I bought three pieces but haven't even had to use the third piece yet. Works great! Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By Bearsfan: Hey Feral, The PVC trick works wonderfully well rolling my tractor around! It is nice also because it is slick so I can easily "steer" the coop around by sliding it on the pipe and not just roll it side to side. I bought three pieces but haven't even had to use the third piece yet. Works great! Thanks! I'd like to see a picture of that if possible. |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Originally Posted By Bearsfan:
Hey Feral, The PVC trick works wonderfully well rolling my tractor around! It is nice also because it is slick so I can easily "steer" the coop around by sliding it on the pipe and not just roll it side to side. I bought three pieces but haven't even had to use the third piece yet. Works great! Thanks! I'd like to see a picture of that if possible. Sure! It will be next weekend though. I move it once a week on the weekend. |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68: Originally Posted By Tacberry: At what point will I know conclusively that the chickens are roosters or hens? Depends on the breed, but usually by 8 weeks you will know. Banties mature faster, so they tend to show a few weeks quicker. It is very easy to get confused by the comb and wattles of some chickens. I would have sworn my Barred Rock was a rooster because its comb was one of the first to come up more noticeably. But now, I wouldn't bet against a hen. My best suggestion is to start watching between 1 month and 2 months old and see which combs jump out and begin turning red, combined with the characteristics of the bird. Some, you can take a good guess by their appearance, their posture, and their nature around the other birds. On the other hand, if you have Silkies...don't hold your breath. I'll try and snap a few pics. The two I got from the sexed bin (Red Sussex, Buff Orphington) are FM. The two Bantums were straight run. Both are smaller than the girls, one is feather-footed and I'm pretty sure a FM. The other, Tiny (the smallest bird), is questionable. He she It has a red comb starting and makes a different kind of noise when annoyed (the girls all peep, it makes a yawn kind of sound). |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
I'll try and snap a few pics. The two I got from the sexed bin (Red Sussex, Buff Orphington) are FM. The two Bantums were straight run. Both are smaller than the girls, one is feather-footed and I'm pretty sure a FM. The other, Tiny (the smallest bird), is questionable. He she It has a red comb starting and makes a different kind of noise when annoyed (the girls all peep, it makes a yawn kind of sound). That'd be great. Post them up! Sounds like one of your banties is a Cochin, most likely, but that is going out on a limb. I'd probably be able to get you close when I see pictures. Where did you get them? As far as sexing straight run chickens, the males combs typically always pop up fairly early on (redness being key). But it is important to remember that banties mature faster than LF (large fowl). So they should show up even earlier. I would say that a good guideline is by 6 weeks you'll have a good idea with the bantams and by 10 weeks you should know with the LF, being conservative. |
| I got them at the local feed mill. They had a bunch of bins. We picked the ones we thought were "pretty" and wanted to have as pets. The banties were mixed together in a straight run bin. |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
I got them at the local feed mill. They had a bunch of bins. We picked the ones we thought were "pretty" and wanted to have as pets. The banties were mixed together in a straight run bin. Oh well cool. I'm sure they will turn out to be good birds. Just post pics if/when you get a chance and we'll see what they are! |
 The one in question  The other Bantie  All of them scratching.  Looking at the camera.  Looking for bugs. |
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The first picture, could be some sort of an Old English possibly, but he is difficult to place for me. Something doesn't seem right with that, so I don't know about that suggestion at all.
The second picture, almost assuredly a Buff Brahma I'd say. Very attractive birds! Thanks for posting them. Let me think on that first one for a bit... |
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When I was a kid, we had some chickens for several years. We had a chicken coop for 'em & would let 'em roam during the day so they could graze, sit under the bush by the window & annoy the hell out of me, ect.... We fed em a mix between some pellets we would get from the feed store & some cracked corn. We also kept a slop bucket under the sink (anything we didn't eat went in it) & would dump it out in front of the coop for them to eat every morning. they loved it & it cut down on the feed costs. Raising chickens is easy. They're probably the most worry free form of livestock you can raise. Also... they love to peck at watermelon rinds. ETA: We didn't have a problem with foxes, since we had so many Coyotes around. And the Coyotes generally stayed away, because every time we heard them yelping near the house, we'd shoot at 'em. |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68: The first picture, could be some sort of an Old English possibly, but he is difficult to place for me. Something doesn't seem right with that, so I don't know about that suggestion at all. The second picture, almost assuredly a Buff Brahma I'd say. Very attractive birds! Thanks for posting them. Let me think on that first one for a bit... They had Guenia (sp) hens in the next bin... any chance of a stow-away? |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
The first picture, could be some sort of an Old English possibly, but he is difficult to place for me. Something doesn't seem right with that, so I don't know about that suggestion at all. The second picture, almost assuredly a Buff Brahma I'd say. Very attractive birds! Thanks for posting them. Let me think on that first one for a bit... They had Guenia (sp) hens in the next bin... any chance of a stow-away? Nah. A guinea is going to look like this: 
Not tall single comb like chickens have. You might just have a nice mix breed Old English, which would be great, but I'm looking into it for you. Either way, very good looking bird that I'd bet you'll be really happy with. |
| I was looking at pictures of the Old English Bantams. Both males and females are fancy. Do you have a guess for sex? |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
I was looking at pictures of the Old English Bantams. Both males and females are fancy. Do you have a guess for sex? How old do you think that chicken is? Under 10-12 weeks I'd say? I don't think there is a question it is a little rooster/cockerel. I think you'll typically find that the bantam pullets/young hens won't start to get very tall and really red until 10-12 weeks or later I'm thinking. Like it appears on that Brahma banty pullet you have, the comb will stay low, more flat and get red, but likely won't start to get larger til closer to maturity. How fast, relative, the combs jump up as the chicks grow are typically the best indications, but sometimes it is harder to tell on some late bloomers/early risers. |
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Originally Posted By Revelation68: They are all about 8 weeks. How about the Brama? Is that one a male? Geez, I'd hate to have to get rid of either of them. If the neighbors complain about crowing, they've got to go.Originally Posted By Tacberry: I was looking at pictures of the Old English Bantams. Both males and females are fancy. Do you have a guess for sex? How old do you think that chicken is? Under 10-12 weeks I'd say? I don't think there is a question it is a little rooster/cockerel. I think you'll typically find that the bantam pullets/young hens won't start to get very tall and really red until 10-12 weeks or later I'm thinking. |
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Originally Posted By Revelation68:
They are all about 8 weeks. How about the Brama? Is that one a male? Geez, I'd hate to have to get rid of either of them. If the neighbors complain about crowing, they've got to go.
Originally Posted By Tacberry:
I was looking at pictures of the Old English Bantams. Both males and females are fancy. Do you have a guess for sex? How old do you think that chicken is? Under 10-12 weeks I'd say? I don't think there is a question it is a little rooster/cockerel. I think you'll typically find that the bantam pullets/young hens won't start to get very tall and really red until 10-12 weeks or later I'm thinking. Oh okay. I'd say that first one should be a male for sure then. The Brahma doesn't strike me as a male. How raised up is its comb? How far up its head does it currently go? From what I can see, I wouldn't speculate it's a cockerel. If it would help, feel free to get pictures up closer of its head. These things can be hard to tell, so I'm just going by what the other pictures show so far. If I had to guess immediately, I'd say pullet, but a closer look would make me feel better. |
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FWIW:
It is hard to tell on a lot of chickens unless you have others the same age around to judge them by. The females tend to mature faster as far as feathering (and I've heard tend to be lighter with these Brahmas). So you really have to combine the speed their combs jump up (how thick, tall, far up the head –– on most breeds), how quick they feather in, and oftentimes even their disposition. As they get older, the pullets will start acting noticeably different from the cockerels. Other than that, there are sometimes breed specific signs that vary. You hear things like "If you make a loud noise/walk in close, the future roosters will tend to stand taller and alert more than the future hens, that will tend to duck down and run" and that sort of thing. You take that for what it could mean, but there isn't any 100% sure-fire way unless you have sex links. Some will be very evident and others won't. My silkies...I'll know what they are when they start crowing or laying eggs!
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Originally Posted By Tacberry:
Wow, that's a pretty bird. I just hope it's quiet. You know, some will talk your head off and others you wouldn't hardly ever know. That being said, I have one cockerel starting to crow, or his version of it, and I never notice it unless I am out by the coop. The neighbor probably has 4 roosters and I might recall hearing them crow once or twice a week. Unless your neighbors don't work and sit outside all the time, I wouldn't be too worried. How close will the chickens be most of the time to the neighbors in question? |