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Originally Posted By JPL:
I used the IP utility to try and find it, but it didn't show up. How do I set the Nano to that address? Here is the AirOS wiki... the default IP address is 192.168.1.20 (I had misremembered it). Set its IP address to something that meshes with your existing wireless network. If your network is 192.168.1.x, set it for something in that same format (in fact, the default would work in that case)... if it's 192.168.0.x, set it for something in THAT format... use whatever you have... but if you don't set it to an IP address within that specific subnet, you won't be able to talk to it |
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Ahh! I keep putting off the cameras for my business because something always seems to come up  I did security lights and got an alarm system after a burglary, now we have a rash of BB gun shootings blowing out car windows; my delivery truck was hit  http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/article/1373/2011/january/17/windows-shot-in-bb-gun-rampage.html As of right now i am in the middle of expanding the business; I'm bleeding money on remodeling, new inventory and a new ad campaign, hoping it to make it back in the next 2 months w/ income tax season...but i need some cameras. This is getting ridiculous as nobody has caught these kids for almost a month now...I think I may just spend the money and a couple CNB cams and a Geovision card and pray that i get some extra business; whats shocking is NO other local businesses have any cameras pointing toward the road.  Anyway, thanks Grey Man for all the info, I'm just venting.  Speed |
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Originally Posted By speedracer422:
Ahh! I keep putting off the cameras for my business because something always seems to come up
I did security lights and got an alarm system after a burglary, now we have a rash of BB gun shootings blowing out car windows; my delivery truck was hit
http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/article/1373/2011/january/17/windows-shot-in-bb-gun-rampage.html As of right now i am in the middle of expanding the business; I'm bleeding money on remodeling, new inventory and a new ad campaign, hoping it to make it back in the next 2 months w/ income tax season...but i need some cameras. This is getting ridiculous as nobody has caught these kids for almost a month now...I think I may just spend the money and a couple CNB cams and a Geovision card and pray that i get some extra business; whats shocking is NO other local businesses have any cameras pointing toward the road.
Anyway, thanks Grey Man for all the info, I'm just venting.
Speed I hate vandals and thieves. What's the configuration of your physical plant? How far to the road, what kind of buildings, etc? PM me if you don't want to post it here. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan: Originally Posted By speedracer422: Ahh! I keep putting off the cameras for my business because something always seems to come up I did security lights and got an alarm system after a burglary, now we have a rash of BB gun shootings blowing out car windows; my delivery truck was hit http://www.timesonline.com/bct_news/news_details/article/1373/2011/january/17/windows-shot-in-bb-gun-rampage.html As of right now i am in the middle of expanding the business; I'm bleeding money on remodeling, new inventory and a new ad campaign, hoping it to make it back in the next 2 months w/ income tax season...but i need some cameras. This is getting ridiculous as nobody has caught these kids for almost a month now...I think I may just spend the money and a couple CNB cams and a Geovision card and pray that i get some extra business; whats shocking is NO other local businesses have any cameras pointing toward the road. Anyway, thanks Grey Man for all the info, I'm just venting. Speed I hate vandals and thieves. What's the configuration of your physical plant? How far to the road, what kind of buildings, etc? PM me if you don't want to post it here. Hold on, I'll just draw a picture...I have a public retail business so I'm not too concerned w/ the physical aspects of the building exterior being posted online, lol.  Uploaded with ImageShack.us This is the front of my store, the measurements are approximate; I'm thinking maybe i can go w/ the cheaper cnb camera (VD) w/ the 4-9mm lens as opposed to the VF w/ the wider 2.8-10.5? I'm really only looking at about 75 degree of coverage...I'd rather focus on the people coming in the front door and the truck and get more detail than just have a bigger area. I plan to mount it on the brick face under the porch roof (about 8 ft high) as per the pic. I have 3 cfl floodlight bulbs under the porch roof (75 watt equivalent) and a 12x3 ft box sign above the porch roof that puts out some light on the lot, as well as a streetlight directly across the street from where i park the truck...the area should be lit enough for the cnb cam. Lemme know what you think...I honestly have no idea how I am paying for the stuff i have going on right now, so I have an absolutely minimal budget to work w/ I've got an old gaming machine that will work w/ the geovision 4 ch card and I have a crappy crt monitor in my basement...I found GOOD Siamese cable, pretermineated fro a reasonable price...any other suggestions will be welcomed. This is just a temp solution; i plan on putting a nice IP cam system in eventually. ETA: well something good came out of all this  i was just interviewed by a local network; I'll be on the 6 o clock news tonight All press is good press. Speed |
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I'll look at this later tonight when I get a chance. Check back.
ETA: yes, I think you can get good area coverage of that door/truck with a single camera. The resolution won't be nearly good enough to get a plate, but a vehicle description is doable, and certainly better than nothing. A 75-degree coverage angle is also possible with a small-aperture lens. ETA2: and congrats on the free TV airtime. I've been on TV a bunch of times over the years, usually because the hospital media director shows up with a crew in-tow and insists on interviewing me about something. That's about the only time I'll violate my "never talk to reporters" rule... and that's under duress. |
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Everyone remember this little box? It warmed up juuust enough today for me to work outside. I hate what gloves do to your dexterity.
Got it up and mounted. 
Used an electrical conduit piece to run the wire to the camera: 
The camera is going to be mounted to the bottom surface of this beam: 
Unfortunately, I don't know what might be between that location, and my piece-o-conduit. This is a good time to get out the borescope.... if you don't have one of these, they can be a real lifesaver around the house. Seeing if your wife's wedding ring is actually down in the drain... where that piece of wire is inside the wall... what's above the drop ceiling... or in this case, whether I have to get out a long drill bit to get through a second 2x4: 
Fortunately, we find no obstructions... 
Here it is, connected to a Mobotix dual-dome: 
Here it is mounted and powered-up: 
And the camera works too. Sweet. 
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I been working on building a nice 2U DVR box with Gigabit Ethernet and a 3TB RAID 5.
Its currently sitting on the dinning room table. I also have the first 2 cameras (indoor only rated) to mount up while I'm seaching for the others I will need for the exterior views. My friends have been joking about how serious I have been about getting this project completed and up and runinng - they think of it more like just another iphone toy app. Well I don't have a cell phone, and I certainly did not consider this a "toy" project. Tonite when I reached the house it was frozen and without power... My first thought was that my payment was not processed properly and the power cut. Approaching my shop I note the double sided dead bolt has been removed and is on the ground. - Inside I find a broken window that was used to gain entry. This small room with window was to be one of the first places the camera were to be mounted. This room was where I was setting up my new reloading room (I'm still moving in from my old house.) The loading bench with the presses is out here yet. But boxes of bullets, brass, dies sets, primers and other stuff were present - and now gone. The thing that chaps my ass the most is the thief was a gunny - none of the other tools were touched - only ammo and components were stolen. - My Machinist tools are worth much more than loading supplies - or they were before the economy hit the toilet. These were not even looked at. Anyway, now that this has happened I will employee a live house sitter who is not afraid to threaten trespassers with having to dig there own shallow graves...  at least until my system is 100% operational and covering everything I need.
Todays moral is - It don't work if it isn't ON. For me thats due to the fact it wasn't installed yet AND I failed to add a additional level of coverage in my plan. The thieves used the main disconnect at the power meter because that is normally not locked... It will be before Monday. But as part of my security plan I failed to consider adding an email alert to tell me the system had switched to running from UPS due to power outage. The security system has a MONSTER UPS, and a almost as large unit supports the primary router and modem. Both of these would run for several hours on the reserve power - but due to remote location I would loose 1 camera that is on a wireless link and gets its local power via wall wart. And I also failed to consider I might need to silence to UPS alarm and make the UPS a hardened unit to keep the thugs from disconnecting it or alerting them to search for other devices. These guys were not smart - taking time to use tools to remove the double deadbolt to get out the front door - they could have just pulled the "no power" release handle on a rope for the garage door and exited that way closing it after themselves and it would have been less obvious a break in had occurred. My House survived the time without heat - its been getting down to 10 at night and I feared the worse for the plumbing. |
anything less than 800rnds wasn't worth getting the gun dirty.
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Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
I been working on building a nice 2U DVR box with Gigabit Ethernet and a 3TB RAID 5. Its currently sitting on the dinning room table. I also have the first 2 cameras (indoor only rated) to mount up while I'm seaching for the others I will need for the exterior views. My friends have been joking about how serious I have been about getting this project completed and up and runinng - they think of it more like just another iphone toy app. Well I don't have a cell phone, and I certainly did not consider this a "toy" project. Tonite when I reached the house it was frozen and without power... My first thought was that my payment was not processed properly and the power cut. Approaching my shop I note the double sided dead bolt has been removed and is on the ground. - Inside I find a broken window that was used to gain entry. This small room with window was to be one of the first places the camera were to be mounted. This room was where I was setting up my new reloading room (I'm still moving in from my old house.) The loading bench with the presses is out here yet. But boxes of bullets, brass, dies sets, primers and other stuff were present - and now gone. The thing that chaps my ass the most is the thief was a gunny - none of the other tools were touched - only ammo and components were stolen. - My Machinist tools are worth much more than loading supplies - or they were before the economy hit the toilet. These were not even looked at. Anyway, now that this has happened I will employee a live house sitter who is not afraid to threaten trespassers with having to dig there own shallow graves... at least until my system is 100% operational and covering everything I need.
Todays moral is - It don't work if it isn't ON. For me thats due to the fact it wasn't installed yet AND I failed to add a additional level of coverage in my plan. The thieves used the main disconnect at the power meter because that is normally not locked... It will be before Monday. But as part of my security plan I failed to consider adding an email alert to tell me the system had switched to running from UPS due to power outage. The security system has a MONSTER UPS, and a almost as large unit supports the primary router and modem. Both of these would run for several hours on the reserve power - but due to remote location I would loose 1 camera that is on a wireless link and gets its local power via wall wart. And I also failed to consider I might need to silence to UPS alarm and make the UPS a hardened unit to keep the thugs from disconnecting it or alerting them to search for other devices. These guys were not smart - taking time to use tools to remove the double deadbolt to get out the front door - they could have just pulled the "no power" release handle on a rope for the garage door and exited that way closing it after themselves and it would have been less obvious a break in had occurred. My House survived the time without heat - its been getting down to 10 at night and I feared the worse for the plumbing. Thanks for the reminder to complete projects. Who knew you had those supplies? Did they cut your phone or cable line as well? I'm glad they didn't do more damage to or take more of, your property. |
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Sorry to hear that, ProfGAB101.
Considering a system's vulnerabilities is something it helps to work into your system design; potential vandalism of cameras is just one attack to consider. One of the advantages of PoE cameras is that you have a central power source for all of your devices, which simplifies power-failure planning. I use a large rack-mount UPS in my server room that holds up the switches, firewall, modem, and servers until the backup generator comes online (which only takes a matter of seconds). I also have dedicated cameras to watch the utility entries into the home (power, phone, cable, and gas), as well as cover the approaches to the generator pad. I'm glad to hear you're going big on the DVR... you'll be amazed how a system can grow once you start tweaking and expanding. I think I'm up to 14 cameras right now... and the way Luxriot allows you to easily add/delete cameras (as opposed to Milestone, where you only get a couple of camera "changes" before it stops you), I'd definitely recommend Luxriot for the hobbyist, or growing system. Just make sure you buy a big enough license (I went with the 16-channel Enterprise version... and it was worth it). |
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The one camera that would blackout in a power failure would be up on the power poll with the wall wart feeding right off the main panel. There is just no place for a ups or to run cable. This was the only wireless unit in the plan.
As to the perps knowing what I had - another failure on my part. There was a 5lb and 3lb canister of WW231 and maybe 8 loose 1K boxes of primers sitting on top of the pile of boxes about 5ft from the window. It was stacked that way cause it was some of the last items unloaded from the truck. - I didn't even think about peeping tom's and the window since I'm back a few hundred feet from the private road and my nearest neighbor is about 1/2 mile away. The window was not facing the road. One down side to having a ranch out in nowhere land is perps have all day and don't have to worry about noise. - I face double damage since having a machine shop means all the tools they could possibly need to get something open are all right there, assuming the fools know what to use and how to use it. Flip side is a machine shop is also a Darwin trap, I just don't want to pull up to a pile of ashes. |
anything less than 800rnds wasn't worth getting the gun dirty.
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Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
The one camera that would blackout in a power failure would be up on the power poll with the wall wart feeding right off the main panel. There is just no place for a ups or to run cable. This was the only wireless unit in the plan. As to the perps knowing what I had - another failure on my part. There was a 5lb and 3lb canister of WW231 and maybe 8 loose 1K boxes of primers sitting on top of the pile of boxes about 5ft from the window. It was stacked that way cause it was some of the last items unloaded from the truck. - I didn't even think about peeping tom's and the window since I'm back a few hundred feet from the private road and my nearest neighbor is about 1/2 mile away. The window was not facing the road. One down side to having a ranch out in nowhere land is perps have all day and don't have to worry about noise. - I face double damage since having a machine shop means all the tools they could possibly need to get something open are all right there, assuming the fools know what to use and how to use it. Flip side is a machine shop is also a Darwin trap, I just don't want to pull up to a pile of ashes. If you want to ensure that the camera in question keeps running, they make outdoor enclosures that incorporate a UPS, including batteries. Stuff like this |
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Some friends of ours have been having problems with people throwing things at their house, punctured tires, etc.
Yesterday they installed one of THESE systems from Swann. I went over today to check it out. I like the ability to view the cameras from my iphone. Anything wrong with buying this system? $499.00 at FRYS. |
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Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Some friends of ours have been having problems with people throwing things at their house, punctured tires, etc. Yesterday they installed one of THESE systems from Swann. I went over today to check it out. I like the ability to view the cameras from my iphone. Anything wrong with buying this system? $499.00 at FRYS. No... though you can probably get that setup for cheaper. I'm generally not a fan of the system-in-a-box camera deals. They tend to be low-quality, the night-vision sucks, they sometimes use proprietary cables so that you can't easily swap out one of their crappy cameras for a higher-quality one, or a dome, or a WDR camera... They do work... most of the time... though some people end up moving up to something better eventually. As long as you view it with that in mind, and don't expect too much out of it, you're probably good. I generally recommend PC-based DVRs... they're simply much easier to expand and/or repair. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Some friends of ours have been having problems with people throwing things at their house, punctured tires, etc. Yesterday they installed one of THESE systems from Swann. I went over today to check it out. I like the ability to view the cameras from my iphone. Anything wrong with buying this system? $499.00 at FRYS. No... though you can probably get that setup for cheaper. I'm generally not a fan of the system-in-a-box camera deals. They tend to be low-quality, the night-vision sucks, they sometimes use proprietary cables so that you can't easily swap out one of their crappy cameras for a higher-quality one, or a dome, or a WDR camera... They do work... most of the time... though some people end up moving up to something better eventually. As long as you view it with that in mind, and don't expect too much out of it, you're probably good. I generally recommend PC-based DVRs... they're simply much easier to expand and/or repair. Ok, I'll take your word for it.
I've been trying to go back through the rest of this thread, but there is a LOT to read / digest. I'm willing to spend ~ $500.00 for a similar set up. (seperate dvr box, at least 4 camera's, and the ability to connect to the interweb (so I can view via my iphone)). Any suggestions? ETA: Thank you for putting this very informative thread together. This is clearly a lot of work your part. Thanks again, Gene |
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Awesome thread OP. I haven't read though all 45 pages, but have you thought of using wireless cameras? I think it's just supply power and an Access Point and your up and running. |
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A government strong enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have.
A government strong enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have.
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Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Some friends of ours have been having problems with people throwing things at their house, punctured tires, etc. Yesterday they installed one of THESE systems from Swann. I went over today to check it out. I like the ability to view the cameras from my iphone. Anything wrong with buying this system? $499.00 at FRYS. No... though you can probably get that setup for cheaper. I'm generally not a fan of the system-in-a-box camera deals. They tend to be low-quality, the night-vision sucks, they sometimes use proprietary cables so that you can't easily swap out one of their crappy cameras for a higher-quality one, or a dome, or a WDR camera... They do work... most of the time... though some people end up moving up to something better eventually. As long as you view it with that in mind, and don't expect too much out of it, you're probably good. I generally recommend PC-based DVRs... they're simply much easier to expand and/or repair. Ok, I'll take your word for it.
I've been trying to go back through the rest of this thread, but there is a LOT to read / digest. I'm willing to spend ~ $500.00 for a similar set up. (seperate dvr box, at least 4 camera's, and the ability to connect to the interweb (so I can view via my iphone)). Any suggestions? ETA: Thank you for putting this very informative thread together. This is clearly a lot of work your part. Thanks again, Gene You're welcome... hard to believe this thread is almost two years old. I didn't do it alone, though... plenty of other posters have contributed. As for the remainder of your question, I don't think you can get what you're talking about for 500 bucks. Let's say we decided to do this as economically as possible, but get you the maximum bang-for-your-buck. Start with four CNB domes at $75-100 each. Add $100 in cables and connectors. A 12VDC or 24VAC PSU is probably another 30 bucks or so.... we're already at about $500 bucks just for cameras, cabling, and power supply. We still have to get some sort of DVR. At this point, you could get a Geovision encoder card for anywhere from $150-250, and throw it in an old PC (equipped with a nice fat $80 1.5TB drive from Newegg)... or grab a used Thinkcentre from Ebay for another $200 bucks, and throw that same $80 hard drive in that computer for a dedicated box. You could also get a Nuuo encoder card, which gives you the option of going "hybrid," by adding IP cameras to the same system later (you buy IP licenses from Nuuo, and use the same machine... it just shows up as another camera). In other words, you're looking at about $1000 minimum. What you get, however, will run far more reliably than the Swann unit, you'll have built it yourself, so you will be intimately familiar with it, and able to fix it in a pinch. The analog PC-based DVR machine you just built can also be transitioned to a network DVR via adding IP licenses (like the Nuuo encoders), or by putting your analog cameras on something like an Axis camera server, and adding the server to whatever NVR software you chose to use. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
~ snip~ Looks like I have some research to do. I do have 3 computers sitting around, 2 of which need a little work, and a 3rd which does work, and has 1tb already in it, but I'd rather not use that for this project. Thanks again for the info, I'll return here with an update as I progress. Gene |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
The one camera that would blackout in a power failure would be up on the power poll with the wall wart feeding right off the main panel. There is just no place for a ups or to run cable. This was the only wireless unit in the plan. As to the perps knowing what I had - another failure on my part. There was a 5lb and 3lb canister of WW231 and maybe 8 loose 1K boxes of primers sitting on top of the pile of boxes about 5ft from the window. It was stacked that way cause it was some of the last items unloaded from the truck. - I didn't even think about peeping tom's and the window since I'm back a few hundred feet from the private road and my nearest neighbor is about 1/2 mile away. The window was not facing the road. One down side to having a ranch out in nowhere land is perps have all day and don't have to worry about noise. - I face double damage since having a machine shop means all the tools they could possibly need to get something open are all right there, assuming the fools know what to use and how to use it. Flip side is a machine shop is also a Darwin trap, I just don't want to pull up to a pile of ashes. If you want to ensure that the camera in question keeps running, they make outdoor enclosures that incorporate a UPS, including batteries. Stuff like this Thanks for the link, I will keep it in mind. Other than loosing power due to a utility company failure, I'm not worried too much about this camera getting cut off. Chances are that if the perps come they will have all ready passed through this cameras field of view before reaching the power disconnect. |
anything less than 800rnds wasn't worth getting the gun dirty.
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Originally Posted By sterling18: Awesome thread OP. I haven't read though all 45 pages, but have you thought of using wireless cameras? I think it's just supply power and an Access Point and your up and running. I think the POE route is the cleanest option, from what I've learned in this thread. You have to run power to your camera anyways (wireless, or wired); why not go POE and have more bandwidth available to the camera, along with power and network (video) all in one cable. |
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Originally Posted By CyberSEAL:
Originally Posted By sterling18:
Awesome thread OP. I haven't read though all 45 pages, but have you thought of using wireless cameras? I think it's just supply power and an Access Point and your up and running. I think the POE route is the cleanest option, from what I've learned in this thread. You have to run power to your camera anyways (wireless, or wired); why not go POE and have more bandwidth available to the camera, along with power and network (video) all in one cable. Exactly... PoE is a great solution to several problems. It definitely beats going the wireless 802.11x route. ETA: I missed your question, sterling18... sorry about that. The problem with going wireless is several-fold. First, the cameras aren't really wireless. They may be wireless for DATA, but they still need a power cord. Second, they're susceptible to interference from other wireless devices (your microwave, your cordless phone, your neighbor's wifi. etc). Third, they commonly lose connection to the access point periodically, and have to re-associate, leading to drop-outs in your video. Fourth, you only have so much bandwidth with wireless (of whatever variation, A/B/G/N), and even segmenting it with multiple APs and channels may not be enough. Fifth, your camera streams can be intercepted by any old yokel with a PDA or laptop (or by your nosy neighbor) if you don't encrypt. This leads to the sixth problem, which is that many manufacturers use slightly different implementations of 802.11x encryption, leading to some devices being unable to talk to one another, or being only able to talk using weak (eg. crackable) encryption like WEP. Seventh, they're susceptible to hacking, or packet-injection attacks like a DEAUTH flood (which would completely disable your system). That said, wireless CAN work... EXPY uses wireless on a couple of setups he's running... but I'd restrict wireless for long-distance links where you have good LOS, or scenarios where it's simply cost-prohibitive to run cable. |
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OK... took advantage of a day off to mount another camera+wireless bridge. Here is the bridge on my workbench, connected to an Acti 8211 PTZ camera.
This one is going to be configured as a bridge, to send the wired camera stream back to a central access point... but these can also be set up to provide stand-alone wireless access to cameras (NOTE: See ETA at the end of this post). All you need is power (120VAC), and to configure the Ubiquiti device as an access point. Set the camera to have a static IP address (in this case, we used 192.168.0.237), the wired interface of the Ubiquiti device as 192.168.0.1 (note that they're on the same subnet), and the network mode to "Router." Set the WLAN interface to have an interface of a different subnet (here we used 192.168.1.1, but it could just as easily be 192.168.2.1, or 192.168.3.1, etc. Set up the DHCP server to lend out an IP address in the appropriate range (192.168.x.100-250), and you should be golden: 
At that point, get out your laptop, connect to your newly configured access point (with the encryption key you set), and connect to the camera... like so. You could actually set this up to beam you a video stream from miles away, provided you had the appropriate directional antenna, and line-of-sight. Here we are at the login screen: 
Anyway, we mounted the second enclosure on another remote structure (remote to the main building), and used PVC conduit to contain the CAT-6 for the camera. Note that we had to use a piece of extension conduit to miss a stud: 
The inside looks very similar to the other one (identical hardware): 
Made a penetration through the beam to route the cable: 
And here we have the second camera mounted: 
This structure had a slightly different construction than the first one, and the area between the pillar and the roof molding was not as wide... so we actually had to screw the two bottom anchors directly into that pillar. Masonry bit and Wall-dog anchors to the rescue... it's rock-solid... you could hang from it: 
Once the electrician hooks up power to that box, we're online with remote live video from that Mobotix dual-dome. ETA: For some reason, in access-point mode, that Ubiquity device wouldn't lend out a wireless IP address to the laptop in question... gave me a "little or no connectivity" warning.  I got around that by assigning the laptop a static IP in the appropriate subnet (I think I used 192.168.1.200), and it worked like a charm after that. Seems to be a problem with the DHCP server... perhaps it needs a firmware update, or perhaps it didn't like my wireless card...
Unfortunately, that's a common problem with wireless devices from different manufacturers... sometimes they just don't play well with others.
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog:
Gene... what model CNB cameras are you looking at? I have no idea really, I would imagine 4 bullet type cameras. Not sure yet. I'm still reading up on the different types. So much info to take in. |
Posted By System Message: Must it be said again? ARFCOM does need to know what you are sticking your pecker in.
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Originally Posted By GENESMITH:
Originally Posted By SaltyDog:
Gene... what model CNB cameras are you looking at? I have no idea really, I would imagine 4 bullet type cameras. Not sure yet. I'm still reading up on the different types. So much info to take in. You can say that again... I can see why some people punt, and hire somebody for this stuff. For some of these setups you need to be part electrician, part network engineer, part photographer, part framer, part trim-carpenter... modern CCTV draws from so many other fields (particularly with network cameras) that it's a discipline of its own. |
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Getting alot of flak about my choice to go with a wireless camera.
Understand that it is being mounted on a "PUBLIC UTILITY POLE" not owned by me. Since it is the DMARK point and the electric meter is on this pole I was allowed to tap into a designated breaker which powers motion activated flood lights. Permission to do this was conditional on not running any new exposed wiring or data cabling. First request was a flat out "NO, No Non-utility supplied hardware is allowed on the pole." I ask if they intended to come change the flood lights when they burned out. I'm not a fan of wireless myself for many of the reasons all ready stated. The rest of my network is all hardwired. I even jack in my laptops. I figured it would be better to exploit this vantage point than to pass on the chance. |
anything less than 800rnds wasn't worth getting the gun dirty.
April 6, 2006 - Has now past... Time to Lawyer up again.
April 6, 2006 - Has now past... Time to Lawyer up again.
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Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
Getting alot of flak about my choice to go with a wireless camera. Understand that it is being mounted on a "PUBLIC UTILITY POLE" not owned by me. Since it is the DMARK point and the electric meter is on this pole I was allowed to tap into a designated breaker which powers motion activated flood lights. Permission to do this was conditional on not running any new exposed wiring or data cabling. First request was a flat out "NO, No Non-utility supplied hardware is allowed on the pole." I ask if they intended to come change the flood lights when they burned out. I'm not a fan of wireless myself for many of the reasons all ready stated. The rest of my network is all hardwired. I even jack in my laptops. I figured it would be better to exploit this vantage point than to pass on the chance. Please don't take my criticism of wireless personally... It just tends to be more problematic than wired ethernet. I'm working on helping out another poster here with a wireless setup, and he's ready to pull his hair out. Yours sounds like a decent arrangement... I've tried to mount even a simple motion detector unit on a public utility pole... and I was told to "get f*cked," so if you've managed to work out something with your utility guys, then that's worth doing. It sure beats sinking your own poles into the ground for cameras. |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
Getting alot of flak about my choice to go with a wireless camera. Understand that it is being mounted on a "PUBLIC UTILITY POLE" not owned by me. Since it is the DMARK point and the electric meter is on this pole I was allowed to tap into a designated breaker which powers motion activated flood lights. Permission to do this was conditional on not running any new exposed wiring or data cabling. First request was a flat out "NO, No Non-utility supplied hardware is allowed on the pole." I ask if they intended to come change the flood lights when they burned out. I'm not a fan of wireless myself for many of the reasons all ready stated. The rest of my network is all hardwired. I even jack in my laptops. I figured it would be better to exploit this vantage point than to pass on the chance. Please don't take my criticism of wireless personally... It just tends to be more problematic than wired ethernet. I'm working on helping out another poster here with a wireless setup, and he's ready to pull his hair out. Yours sounds like a decent arrangement... I've tried to mount even a simple motion detector unit on a public utility pole... and I was told to "get f*cked," so if you've managed to work out something with your utility guys, then that's worth doing. It sure beats sinking your own poles into the ground for cameras. Actually I would love to use a second pole also - but as you said, not a chance. Only reason this pole was allowed was the lines running to it are "only" 220VAC from the low side of the transformer, not sure what the line voltage is that feeds the transformer. (somewhere in the extra crispy zone) |
anything less than 800rnds wasn't worth getting the gun dirty.
April 6, 2006 - Has now past... Time to Lawyer up again.
April 6, 2006 - Has now past... Time to Lawyer up again.
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Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? Is it set to MJPEG or MPEG4? Change that and see if that does any good. ETA: wait... you get video during the day, but not at night? |
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Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? Is it set to MJPEG or MPEG4? Change that and see if that does any good. ETA: wait... you get video during the day, but not at night? MPEG4 I have a picture during the day There is a street light across the street about 80 feet away. I did have a low light picture before. I do get a picture when my spot light is tripped. |
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Originally Posted By ger42:
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? Is it set to MJPEG or MPEG4? Change that and see if that does any good. ETA: wait... you get video during the day, but not at night? MPEG4 I have a picture during the day There is a street light across the street about 80 feet away. I did have a low light picture before. I do get a picture when my spot light is tripped. It's not switching to night mode then... it's the camera, nothing to do with Luxriot. Check your day/night mode switching settings... and consider having it switch at a higher lux level. |
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Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? How did you get the camera set up in Luxriot? It doesn't show the TCM-7411 as a supported camera. I was unable to get mine set up, although I didn't spend too much time on it. I've been using Milestone since then. |
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Lot's of great info on here.
I'll try to absorb it all soon. Until them, what is your take on the Logitech wireless security system. Logitech Alert™ 750e Outdoor Master System http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/video-security-systems/master-systems/devices/7252 It seems to be pretty good, but, I don't know anyone else who might have used it. So, what do you think of this? |
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Originally Posted By GunBowanna:
Lot's of great info on here. I'll try to absorb it all soon. Until them, what is your take on the Logitech wireless security system. Logitech Alert™ 750e Outdoor Master System http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/video-security-systems/master-systems/devices/7252 It seems to be pretty good, but, I don't know anyone else who might have used it. So, what do you think of this? About half of the eight review on their own website were decidedly negative... not a good sign. And those cameras aren't really "wireless." The pictures make them appear that way, but you still have to run power to them... so unless you have electrical outlets mounted up under your eaves (I've seen some houses that actually have that... usually for powering Christmas lights and such), you still have to run power cords. Also, consumer-grade wireless doesn't have the greatest reputation for reliability. Compared to a purpose-built CCTV system, those will probably suck. |
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Originally Posted By Eight:
Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? How did you get the camera set up in Luxriot? It doesn't show the TCM-7411 as a supported camera. I was unable to get mine set up, although I didn't spend too much time on it. I've been using Milestone since then. Get the latest Luxriot upgrade it's in there. I upgraded the camera firmware and got the camera working great at night. Just need to figure out motion detection. |
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Originally Posted By ger42:
Originally Posted By Eight:
Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? How did you get the camera set up in Luxriot? It doesn't show the TCM-7411 as a supported camera. I was unable to get mine set up, although I didn't spend too much time on it. I've been using Milestone since then. Get the latest Luxriot upgrade it's in there. I upgraded the camera firmware and got the camera working great at night. Just need to figure out motion detection. Okay, I upgraded to 1.8.1.64. There is no option for a TCM-7411. I cannot set up up automatically. When I go to set it up manually, there is no option for TCM-7411. There is an ACM-7411 in the list. How are you setting your camera up? |
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I was wondering if maybe a list might be made up of some of the favorite cameras and there average price points. - Might even do this as a 2nd thread just on camera reviews. This thread is a bit much to swallow for some, but I have prolly re-read the whole thing maybe 6 times since its beginning. Maybe a 3rd thread on all the software options (and some hints on the best vendors to buy licenses from).
My revised layout will utilize 8 cameras, with a few added much later. I have been shopping for the best (use) fit for each location for nearly 4 months. As I mentioned before - better to have the hardware up and running but not optimal rather than wait until all the ducks line up. So for me I'm getting my first 2 cams up and wired and online using the OEM provided software for now. I was going to try Zoneminder, and will continue to experiment with it while using the WORKING software. I can see that in the long run this security system will make the gun safes look like the cheap segment of the overall security plan.
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anything less than 800rnds wasn't worth getting the gun dirty.
April 6, 2006 - Has now past... Time to Lawyer up again.
April 6, 2006 - Has now past... Time to Lawyer up again.
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Originally Posted By Eight:
Originally Posted By ger42:
Originally Posted By Eight:
Originally Posted By ger42:
Thought I had it all running great until??? Having problems with my ACTI TCM-7411. All started with new Luriot version where I could actually set the 7411 up as a 7411 in the Luxriot. All I get at night is a dark picture Settings are http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k308/Ger42/TCM7411settings.jpg What am I doing wrong?? How did you get the camera set up in Luxriot? It doesn't show the TCM-7411 as a supported camera. I was unable to get mine set up, although I didn't spend too much time on it. I've been using Milestone since then. Get the latest Luxriot upgrade it's in there. I upgraded the camera firmware and got the camera working great at night. Just need to figure out motion detection. Okay, I upgraded to 1.8.1.64. There is no option for a TCM-7411. I cannot set up up automatically. When I go to set it up manually, there is no option for TCM-7411. There is an ACM-7411 in the list. How are you setting your camera up? My memory is going I 'm not sure where I saw it. |
For those of you who have lots of money –– if you wanted to have your own bigtime server for your security system you could build one of these.
45 hard drives, (3) RAID 6 arrays, 4U rackmount...good stuff.
Also, if you haven't seen it in GD yet –– this video is worth the time to watch. Synopsis: woman steal guy's snow shovel, he see this on his security cameras (news report said he sells them for a living), and as revenge he snow-blows her car. 
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Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
For those of you who have lots of money –– if you wanted to have your own bigtime server for your security system you could build one of these.
45 hard drives, (3) RAID 6 arrays, 4U rackmount...good stuff.
Also, if you haven't seen it in GD yet –– this video is worth the time to watch. Synopsis: woman steal guy's snow shovel, he see this on his security cameras (news report said he sells them for a living), and as revenge he snow-blows her car.
Original video on YouTube. That's a good video... embedded it below: 
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Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
Looks like he was using Vivotek/4XEM cameras. But then most bullet cams look much the same. Yeah... I couldn't tell what he was using... no markings on any of the cameras. Some were actually mounted with conduit and boxes... while others were just screwed into the brick with drip loops. With conduit: 
Without conduit: 
I dont' recognize the software, but whatever software he's using, it's running on a Mac. Here's a view of his desktop... note the "X11 Applications Edit" across the top? That's a Mac desktop... looks like a powerbook. 
I like the way this guy rolls
ETA: Here's his company. Looks like he's the president... our Chicago ARFCOMers ought to send this guy some business 
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That's a Mac desktop... looks like a powerbook. It's a unibody MacBook Pro. Typing this post on one. PowerBook = PowerPC CPU MacBook Pro = Intel CPU /Mac nerd mode off. |
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Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz:
That's a Mac desktop... looks like a powerbook. It's a unibody MacBook Pro. Typing this post on one. PowerBook = PowerPC CPU MacBook Pro = Intel CPU /Mac nerd mode off. *bows* Your Mac-Fu is strong. We have only one Mac in the house, and it belongs to my lovely wife... so I must yield to your greater experience, sir. 
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Check out this link.
Professional crew that hit a warehouse in Tampa, Florida. They made off with 4.7 million dollars in military laptops destined for CENTCOM. The went up on the roof, cut a hole in it, rappelled down into the warehouse, and disabled the security system (this was really Ocean's Eleven stuff). They were in there for ten hours, and loaded two Semis with stolen computers. They also removed outside security cameras as an additional precaution. Fortunately, they missed two... and those cameras either had internal storage, or stored their video off-site... so they got pictures of a red Lincoln Navigator that came-and-went from the site. They then checked businesses around that area... and lookee here... the thieves took a lunch break: 
That picture was grabbed from the camera at a nearby McDonalds. |
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This thread has fantastic information, thanks for posting it! Now, unfortunately, I'm way too lazy to get all OCD and roll my own system. I'm the guy that goes into Sam's club and looks at something like this for $500 and goes hmmm... http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod1620303&navAction= Is there any turn key, off the shelf system that you'd recommend to someone that isn't so hardcore about it?
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Originally Posted By RarestRX:
This thread has fantastic information, thanks for posting it! Now, unfortunately, I'm way too lazy to get all OCD and roll my own system. I'm the guy that goes into Sam's club and looks at something like this for $500 and goes hmmm... http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=prod1620303&navAction= Is there any turn key, off the shelf system that you'd recommend to someone that isn't so hardcore about it?
Thanks! Honestly? I don't really like ANY of the off-the-shelf systems. |
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