Posted: 11/18/2024 7:10:26 AM EDT
| Ok here is a question I am sure all you 45/70 guys will laugh at. Will a 40 cal 3.5" barrel pistol kill a Florida black bear if I was attacked. Using Underwood 200gr hardcast 1000fps bullets. Thanks guys. |
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Originally Posted By windham: Ok here is a question I am sure all you 45/70 guys will laugh at. Will a 40 cal 3.5" barrel pistol kill a Florida black bear if I was attacked. Using Underwood 200gr hardcast 1000fps bullets. Thanks guys. Probably. Bears have been killed with less. FL Black bears are small and skittish. I carried a G20.4 in Alaska with UW extreme penetrators. I carry my G19.5 with UW extreme penetrators in the AL woods and feel fine with it. |
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| You pretty much have to make an appointment to be attacked by a black bear. They are very skittish and avoid humans as best they can. |
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| Probably anything good enough for a hog would work, I’d say 9mm minimum but 45, 10mm, 357, .44 better. .44 mag may be a bit overkill but it’s a classic western cartridge capable of taking any game. I’m a 10mm fan but most of the time carry my hk45c if I’m not carrying 9mm. |
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I have a couple big boys on the apiary/farm that I don't trust a 9mm with. Most of mine are smaller but these guys are out roaming quite a bit.Attached File Attached File Attached File |
Naples is black bear country with one very recent fatal attack and several non fatal attacks. one close by neighbor had his bull mastiff pulled off the porch and killed while the anti gun family heard it screaming.![]() baby bear out for a late night stroll |
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I have a vacation condo in Lely Resort area of Naples. So many bears walk right down the street mostly in the summer. Mothers and cubs. Every ring camera has videos. Been going on for the 12 years I’ve been there. I killed one in Maine with a 35 whelen and one in NY with a 35 Remington. |
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Originally Posted By sandblaster: You forgot quicksand. And feral pigs, sharks, puffer fish, and the mosquitoes are no joke either. Florida has to have the highest range of deadly animals of any state, and that's on top of the already deadly swamps and regular hurricanes. The cities don't seem much better, I have no idea what northern Florida is like though. The first time I went to Miami I thought the car with bullet holes outside the liquor store was for joke. The bars on the doors and windows, and the cashier behind more plexiglass than any bank I've seen made me question that. I thoroughly enjoyed my time in Miami and the keys, but black bear is the LAST thing I would ever think about. |
| I threw a full beer at a black bear when one surprised me in camp and i feel like it was a waste of a beer. FL black bears are big raccoons. I carry my g19 in the woods. Black bears in FL are not scary. Carry gun is fine, you wont need to shoot it. If you shoot a black bear in self defense here you may even be looked at weird (by the greenjeans) bc they fucking RUN from people. |
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Originally Posted By RogueSpear2023: Do you realize there have only been like 20 fatal black bear attacks nation wide since they started keeping records. As long as you don't suprise on with cubs you should be fine. I would be much more worried about snakes and alligators in Florida Florida had it's only fatal attack earlier this year. I wouldn't waste a minute of worry to death by Black Bear. |
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Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Florida had it's only fatal attack earlier this year. I wouldn't waste a minute of worry to death by Black Bear. Some of y'all sound like the black bear are so docialel you can feed the marshmallows while holding them in your mouth. I know a guy hunting black bear with a bow. He had a bear come up on him then made eye contact and the bear seriously mauled his left arm. No it did not kill him but his arm was seriously fucked up! |
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Originally Posted By DasRonin: Some of y'all sound like the black bear are so docialel you can feed the marshmallows while holding them in your mouth. I know a guy hunting black bear with a bow. He had a bear come up on him then made eye contact and the bear seriously mauled his left arm. No it did not kill him but his arm was seriously fucked up! Originally Posted By DasRonin: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Florida had it's only fatal attack earlier this year. I wouldn't waste a minute of worry to death by Black Bear. Some of y'all sound like the black bear are so docialel you can feed the marshmallows while holding them in your mouth. I know a guy hunting black bear with a bow. He had a bear come up on him then made eye contact and the bear seriously mauled his left arm. No it did not kill him but his arm was seriously fucked up! I am the first to admit that I don't take them seriously. I grew up with them roaming through my neighborhood and have literally chased them out of my yard. That being said my main reason for not fearing them is that A I don't pursue them or spend time around them anymore and B the numbers/data make clear that they aren't really a threat worth a lot of worry. As I said that was the first recorded death in Florida EVER recorded. So in all the years they've been keeping track and all the bear interactions there's been one single death. So many things you do daily are more dangerous. We all get caught up in worst case scenarios. It's part of the protector mindset to worry about such things but a little bit of forethought and common sense coupled with the odds says you'll be alright when it comes to black bears in Florida. I haven't looked at all the data in a long time but a few years ago it seemed like a very high number of the fatal black bear(maybe all bears) came from the BC area of Canada and if you were outside of that it wsa extremely uncommon. Similar to how people love quoting gun deaths in America without acknowledging that almost all of it comes from very small specific areas. |
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