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5/14/2025 12:53:44 PM EDT
On my boat I have an HDS 12 up front and an HDS 12 at the dash with an HDS 9 on a ram mount off to the side of the dash.  Just upgraded to 10 gage wire for power and a dedicated battery but found something I had forgot about.  If my HDS 9 isn't hooked up the HDS 12 acts like it doesn't have a transducer.  Any ideas why?

Boats a 2014 Ranger Z521
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5/14/2025 12:58:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TxRabbitBane][Edited] [#1]
It seems to me that I had a similar issue at one point, but I don’t remember the solution. I’m going to be wrenching on my boat this weekend. I’ll try to remember exactly what I did…

Fuck, my graphs are ancient though. I just can’t afford to replace them, LOL
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5/14/2025 1:02:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
It seems to me that I had a similar issue at one point, but I don’t remember the solution. I’m going to be wrenching on my boat this weekend. I’ll try to remember exactly what I did…

Fuck, my graphs are ancient though. I just can’t afford to replace them, LOL
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They are way overpriced IMO.  I'd like to try the garmins but for what it would cost to replace what I have there's no way I'd spend the money and without any experience with them, there is no way I'd order a boat with them.
Originally posted by System Message: Please use another website for your asshole-picture swapping

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5/14/2025 1:08:19 PM EDT
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Do you have everything on an NMEA network?
Do you have 2/3 of them pointing to the one graph that does have the transducer? It should be a shared device.
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5/14/2025 1:16:41 PM EDT
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If I recall, there’s a setting for the primary and secondary inputs - is it only seeing the networked transducer?
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5/14/2025 1:34:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kissfan:
Do you have everything on an NMEA network?
Do you have 2/3 of them pointing to the one graph that does have the transducer? It should be a shared device.
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Yes to the NMEA network, front graph uses the trolling motor for it's transducer.
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5/14/2025 1:35:29 PM EDT
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If the HDS 9 is not hooked up it doesn't see any transducer.

I forgot to add I have StructureScan HD
Originally posted by System Message: Please use another website for your asshole-picture swapping

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5/14/2025 1:35:53 PM EDT
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Don't know squat about Lowrance other than the old HDS5 I keep in my boat just to run one of my map chips.
Appreciate the picture though; now I know what a bass boat would look like behind my truck as it's identical to yours.  
5/14/2025 1:57:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tornadochaser:
Don't know squat about Lowrance other than the old HDS5 I keep in my boat just to run one of my map chips.
Appreciate the picture though; now I know what a bass boat would look like behind my truck as it's identical to yours.  
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It would look great, I think you should get one.
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5/14/2025 2:17:46 PM EDT
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This URL may look funky, but it's a wealth of info like you seek

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5/14/2025 3:40:57 PM EDT
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This URL may look funky, but it's a wealth of info like you seek

Bass Boat Central
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I just fixed my account there.  I'll have to hit them up.
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5/14/2025 5:12:11 PM EDT
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Is it setup using like a screen mirror type of deal? My Elite TI2 has a networking/wifi/bluetooth option where it can display on an iPad/iphone/etc but only when it's powered up and on. I assume it's using some type of link like that given that I'm guessing you only have 2 ducers (front on troller and back by the outboard)


ETA: Which graph the 9 or the 12 has the input cable from the ducer?
5/14/2025 8:49:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChuckD05:
Is it setup using like a screen mirror type of deal? My Elite TI2 has a networking/wifi/bluetooth option where it can display on an iPad/iphone/etc but only when it's powered up and on. I assume it's using some type of link like that given that I'm guessing you only have 2 ducers (front on troller and back by the outboard)


ETA: Which graph the 9 or the 12 has the input cable from the ducer?
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I need to check, it should hooked up to the structure scan box.
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5/14/2025 9:20:20 PM EDT
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This thread got me curious. I just read this article: https://actisense.com/news/top-3-mistakes-building-nmea-network-how-to-avoid-them/
Is each device connected to the backbone individually? If not, that may be your issue.
5/15/2025 9:17:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayno945:
This thread got me curious. I just read this article: https://actisense.com/news/top-3-mistakes-building-nmea-network-how-to-avoid-them/
Is each device connected to the backbone individually? If not, that may be your issue.
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I think so, I'm going to get up there and check it out this weekend now that I know a little more about it.  From what I learned last night the transducer for the structure scan hd is hooked directly to the structure scan HD box which has 3 yellow network ports.  I need to check and see if all 3 are hooked up or if the 12 in the dash is daisy chained off the 9 on the side.
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5/15/2025 9:55:47 AM EDT
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So you have two depth finders with two transducers?

One transducer may not be pointing correctly, fuse blown, wire loose, or a host of other problems. I have two on my boat, same brand, but have to have two different transducers.
One is in hull and occasionally the epoxy comes loose and I have to reglue it.
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5/15/2025 10:11:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Oldgold:
So you have two depth finders with two transducers?

One transducer may not be pointing correctly, fuse blown, wire loose, or a host of other problems. I have two on my boat, same brand, but have to have two different transducers.
One is in hull and occasionally the epoxy comes loose and I have to reglue it.
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Nope, he's got 3 graphs. Two at cockpit and one at bow, but only two transducers.

He's running into a slave/master relationship on the cockpit graphs and is trying to find out if he's networked properly or if graph1 is mirroring to graph2 through some sort of WiFi network or direct subnet between those two because cockpit graph2 only works when cockpit graph1 is on.
5/18/2025 9:15:50 PM EDT
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Carry on gentlemen. I'm learning something.

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