[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Samiam's garden thread (Page 2 of 3)
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Is there a maximum temperature for planting carrots? looks like when you get above 90 the germination rate drops significantly. 104 = zero germination http://tomclothier.hort.net/page11.html |
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Quoted: looks like when you get above 90 the germination rate drops significantly. 104 = zero germination http://tomclothier.hort.net/page11.html Quoted: Quoted: Is there a maximum temperature for planting carrots? looks like when you get above 90 the germination rate drops significantly. 104 = zero germination http://tomclothier.hort.net/page11.html I have them going inside right now but will need to transplant in the next few weeks.  |
 Here's my two surviving cucumbers. Started 5 indoors knowing they weren't good to transplant. Transplanted without disturbing the soil much and still lost 3.  2 of the cotton plants are doing as great as they can, 1 is stuck and 1 is damn near dead.  Cotton stalk getting woody.  Soy beans are getting eaten up but they're growing.  Snap peas. Took a looooonnnnnngggg time to come up. Some are still emerging. I'll replant the bare spots when it gets a bit cooler.  Marvel of Venice are climbing well. These have been my best starters.  Fortex beans are in the front. They are not climbing well but hopefully will improve this week. Since I took the pictures I have tied a trellis in teh gap between the Fortex and Marvel of Venice. Biggest problem now is the bugs eating the leaves. How can I get rid of the critters eating the soy beans? |
I transplanted 5 cucumber. Only 2 made it.  Soybeans are doing well  Pole beans are doing well too. Ones in the back are a few days from 7 feet tall.   Cotton is doing better. Behind the local fields but I'm beginning to not worry too much because it is still 95 some days.  Jalafuego peppers  Tomatoes - I got stakes for the front two. I lost one after transplanting.  |
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Quoted: Cotton is kind of pretty! I've never seen it close up. Is the "flower" the cotton? Or is the cotton a receptacle for seeds later? Quoted: Quoted: Cotton is flowering! Cotton is kind of pretty! I've never seen it close up. Is the "flower" the cotton? Or is the cotton a receptacle for seeds later? Here is an open flower. Mine have been turning magenta and drying within 24 hours of this stage.  |
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Flower forms and then dries and falls off. Cotton boll then forms where the flower was. Here is an open flower. Mine have been turning magenta and drying within 24 hours of this stage. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo3_zpsda5mym4p.jpg Quoted:
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Cotton is flowering! Cotton is kind of pretty! I've never seen it close up. Is the "flower" the cotton? Or is the cotton a receptacle for seeds later? Here is an open flower. Mine have been turning magenta and drying within 24 hours of this stage. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo3_zpsda5mym4p.jpg What a beautiful flower. Can't wait to see the boll form . |
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http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/image1_zps9ah7icpo.jpeg Cotton boll forming. Notice the "petals" or "leaves" or whatever their called around the boll are the same from the 8/24 picture of the flower. That was probably the calyx of the flower..the little bottom structure that looks "tougher" than the petals. Does that make sense to you? I see a tiny bit of the thin "leaves" of that around the flower, so guessing that's what you mean. And  wow, that funky greenish white polka dot thing in the middle..
That's the cotton forming? |
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Quoted: That was probably the calyx of the flower..the little bottom structure that looks "tougher" than the petals. Does that make sense to you? I see a tiny bit of the thin "leaves" of that around the flower, so guessing that's what you mean. And wow, that funky greenish white polka dot thing in the middle..That's the cotton forming? Quoted: Quoted: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/image1_zps9ah7icpo.jpeg Cotton boll forming. Notice the "petals" or "leaves" or whatever their called around the boll are the same from the 8/24 picture of the flower. That was probably the calyx of the flower..the little bottom structure that looks "tougher" than the petals. Does that make sense to you? I see a tiny bit of the thin "leaves" of that around the flower, so guessing that's what you mean. And wow, that funky greenish white polka dot thing in the middle..That's the cotton forming?   I don't know what is going on in the bottom two rows of this picture. Waaayyyy above my pay grade   |
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Here's a couple pictures I found on image search that may help explain it much better than I ever could
http://www-plb.ucdavis.edu/labs/rost/cotton/reproduction/frlife.gif I don't know what is going on in the bottom two rows of this picture. Waaayyyy above my pay grade
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http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/image1_zps9ah7icpo.jpeg Cotton boll forming. Notice the "petals" or "leaves" or whatever their called around the boll are the same from the 8/24 picture of the flower. That was probably the calyx of the flower..the little bottom structure that looks "tougher" than the petals. Does that make sense to you? I see a tiny bit of the thin "leaves" of that around the flower, so guessing that's what you mean. And wow, that funky greenish white polka dot thing in the middle..
That's the cotton forming?
http://www-plb.ucdavis.edu/labs/rost/cotton/reproduction/frlife.gif I don't know what is going on in the bottom two rows of this picture. Waaayyyy above my pay grade
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/content/100/7/1391/F2.large.jpg AWESOME information. That appears to be the observable change in cellular structure that happens as the boll forms and turns into cotton from whatever it was before. I'm guessing at that, but I've looked at images like that before and that's what it was. The cells are morphing from one kind into another, and that's what it looks like as it happens. 
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I've been meaning to update with pictures but haven't had time. Hopefully I can do so tomorrow. 1 of my types of pole beans is getting drowned and eaten alive. The other is nice and healthy. No beans yet though. Soy beans are plentiful. Snap peas are probably a bust this year. Cotton is ~4 feet tall. Bolls forming all over. Some flowers are still popping out every day. The stalks are getting really wide. So wide that I've had to stake both plants because they were falling over. Cucumbers are about 5 feet up the trellis. I'm surprised they're climbing so well. Peppers and tomatoes are doing well. Peppers are still short. I have lost all the dill I planted. Only 1 basil plant has survived. I am attempting carrots again. Last time they all died. I planted two very close rows this time. We shall see. |
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I have a pest plaguing my cucumbers. It is burrowing into the cucumbers in perfect circular holes. I have harvested 3 unaffected cucumbers and thrown out probably 15 with holes. Are there any pesticides that I can use on the cucumbers to get rid of the worms so they don't eat into the new fruit? |
Tomatoes  Cucumbers - I've thrown probably at least 20 away because of worms. I treated with Sevin and now I have only found a few with worms since. I have harvested ~15 worm free so far.   Peppers  Carrots - I lost most of my early carrots. I planted from teh back of the bed forward. My last planting seems to be doing great though. Green twist ties sticking up were used to ID where each carrot was planted.  Cotton - Its 6 feet tall with no open bolls.  Still putting all its energy towards growing up and out. It has 2 weeks tops until I rip it out. More like next weekend probably. That is where the garlic is going. Beans - I sprayed with daconil a week ago and that seemed to stop the fungus. I harvested enough for 3 people last night and sprayed again this morning. Tons of small beans are hanging but there's not a ton of leaves on the far stalks to fatten them up. Peas are doing well too and taste great. All 6 of them . I eat the soybeans raw and give them to my dogs as treats. They're happy     Broccoli in front, lettuce middle, chard back. This bed started great then birds pulled up plants and left them in the bed. Empty spots are where the birds pulled them up. I have reseeded those spots.  |
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Quoted: Looking great Sam. I just got my fall veggies in the ground yesterday. Quoted: I'm jealous of y'all who are southern gardeners. We are feeling serious fall on its way up here. I'm enjoying the flowers for as long as I can, and hoping I get another week or two.  I picked 12 more cucumbers yesterday. Gave 4 away and pickled the rest. Cotton comes out tomorrow. I tried to get it to pop the bolls by taking all the leaves off and cutting it down. I had a little success. Should have done it a week or two earlier.   |
This morning I figured out how to get the tiller in the raised beds. I built a platform out of 2x4s and deck boards. Used vehicle ramps propped up on scrap 2x4s (for extra height). When I got done I left the platform in the yard. Figured the supervisors would want to use it. Yup.  (looks like he's about to sneeze) Garlic was planted in rows that were 6 inches apart, garlic in the rows was 5 inches apart. Each row has a stainless steel marker with the type of garlic in the row. The stick you see is one I used to make holes to plant the garlic.  Aaaannnndddd all done. Time to harvest a bean or two.  |
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Thanks! What did you plant? It'll be in the 70's this weekend and 80's all next week
I picked 12 more cucumbers yesterday. Gave 4 away and pickled the rest. Cotton comes out tomorrow. I tried to get it to pop the bolls by taking all the leaves off and cutting it down. I had a little success. Should have done it a week or two earlier. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo%201_zpsxvhcktf9.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo%202_zpsinqmwx9a.jpg Quoted:
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Looking great Sam. I just got my fall veggies in the ground yesterday. Quoted:
I'm jealous of y'all who are southern gardeners. We are feeling serious fall on its way up here. I'm enjoying the flowers for as long as I can, and hoping I get another week or two.
I picked 12 more cucumbers yesterday. Gave 4 away and pickled the rest. Cotton comes out tomorrow. I tried to get it to pop the bolls by taking all the leaves off and cutting it down. I had a little success. Should have done it a week or two earlier. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo%201_zpsxvhcktf9.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo%202_zpsinqmwx9a.jpg "Pop the bolls" means getting those buds to open so you can get the cotton? Why does cutting off the leaves and pruning it make that happen? Does the cotton think it's dying so it tries to open and let the seeds out? ETA: Where'd you get your garlic, and what variety did you plant? |
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Quoted: "Pop the bolls" means getting those buds to open so you can get the cotton? Why does cutting off the leaves and pruning it make that happen? Does the cotton think it's dying so it tries to open and let the seeds out? ETA: Where'd you get your garlic, and what variety did you plant? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looking great Sam. I just got my fall veggies in the ground yesterday. Quoted: I'm jealous of y'all who are southern gardeners. We are feeling serious fall on its way up here. I'm enjoying the flowers for as long as I can, and hoping I get another week or two. I picked 12 more cucumbers yesterday. Gave 4 away and pickled the rest. Cotton comes out tomorrow. I tried to get it to pop the bolls by taking all the leaves off and cutting it down. I had a little success. Should have done it a week or two earlier. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo%201_zpsxvhcktf9.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/photo%202_zpsinqmwx9a.jpg "Pop the bolls" means getting those buds to open so you can get the cotton? Why does cutting off the leaves and pruning it make that happen? Does the cotton think it's dying so it tries to open and let the seeds out? ETA: Where'd you get your garlic, and what variety did you plant? Trimming the plant to a stump was to hopefully stop the excessive growth. Last ditch effort of sorts. Softneck garlics are from southern exposure seed exchange. Italian, Lorz Italian, and Inchelium Red. Creoles are from Whistling Duck Farm. Creole Red and Pescadero. |
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Example of how drying makes the bolls pop. Stump picture while plant still in the ground Stump picture today. Stumps have been sitting on concrete since pulled. I put them on the mulch pile for the picture.  First picture has 1 boll popping on each plant. Second picture has 2 popped on one plant and 1 popped with 2 cracked on the other. |
Greens bed. We've had a bunch of salads from the bed. No broccoli yet. Peppers, tomatoes, cucumbers.  Cucumber harvest today  Garlic and carrots. Beans are in the background. I pulled them up last week. I am waiting for the vines to dry before I pull them off the trellis.  I think it was a little too early for garlic here  |
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Tons has changed since the last update! Tomatoes, jalapenos, and cucumbers are all gone. Freeze was coming so I pulled all the fruit I could off the peppers and tomatoes. I got 60 jalapenos and made pepper jelly for parties this winter.  I pulled any tomatoes that had any ripening and finished them inside. I got about 10 pints of crushed tomatoes canned.   I've als started pulling carrots as needed. I was pleasently surprised when I pulled the first.  I am still pulling lettuce and chard as needed. Broccoli heads are coming in and should be ready soon. It has been a while since I took these pictures, but it gives an idea of the garlic patch. 100% of the plants are above ground now.   I have ordered some onions from DixonDale Farms. They are scheduled to ship the first week of February. They'll be planted in the same spot as the carrots. |
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I was checking the garden yesterday and something looked "different" with one of the heads of broccoli. I couldn't tell what it was until i got really really close. It looked like some of it was opening, or so I thought. I couldn't find any photos of the stages of broccoli flowers opening, so I went ahead and pulled this one. I took some close ups to show what I saw. There are buds that seems to be opening every now and then as you look over the head. Please tell me if I pulled this head early. Mrs. Samiam513 told me it was her favorite vegetable from the garden thus far. The cooked broccoli was Dr. Seuss dark green and she got a good kick out of it considering.    |
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Yup, the flowers are getting ready to open. If you had waited another day or two, you would see little yellow flowers popping out. Still perfectly edible. Yes. Perfect timing. Very interesting on the cotton. I hope you do that again next year. ETA: I would love your pepper jelly recipe. We don't really do that up here. AT least, we didn't when I was growing up, so I don't know how to do that well. My brother sends me pepper jellies from New Mexico and we love them. Wondering if I could do my own. |
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Quoted: Yes. Perfect timing. Very interesting on the cotton. I hope you do that again next year. ETA: I would love your pepper jelly recipe. We don't really do that up here. AT least, we didn't when I was growing up, so I don't know how to do that well. My brother sends me pepper jellies from New Mexico and we love them. Wondering if I could do my own. Quoted: Quoted: Yup, the flowers are getting ready to open. If you had waited another day or two, you would see little yellow flowers popping out. Still perfectly edible. Yes. Perfect timing. Very interesting on the cotton. I hope you do that again next year. ETA: I would love your pepper jelly recipe. We don't really do that up here. AT least, we didn't when I was growing up, so I don't know how to do that well. My brother sends me pepper jellies from New Mexico and we love them. Wondering if I could do my own. I use the certo pepper jelly recipe. We take it to parties with crackers and cream cheese. Too much sugar to eat at home. Only modification I made was using 30 jalapenos in each batch instead of 3 different types of peppers. 15 of the jalapenos had veins and seeds removed, the others just had the tops lopped off. http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/certo-hot-pepper-jelly-51862.aspx Cotton will be back next year, but not in the garden. I am planning to fill the garden to the brim with veggies. |
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I ordered leeks from Dixondale the other night and will probably plant where the remaining broccoli is and the lettuce currently is. I have only harvested 1 carrot since Thanksgiving. Broccoli has been coming in well with the first head being the best. I'll probably do more broccoli in the spring in the room not taken up by leeks. |
I planted the leeks today. Each bundle was estimated to be 60 leeks. I ordered 2 bundles and got 64.  Oh well. I planted accordingly.  Here is the garlic and carrots. Garlic will probably die back this week becasue it is going to be mid 20s at night.  And every now and then I'll go outside and pull up a carrot, wash it and eat it. Sooooo good. Wife has asked for a dedicated fall carrot bed if I expand the garden. She wants a carrot every day.  |
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I planted the leeks today. Each bundle was estimated to be 60 leeks. I ordered 2 bundles and got 64. Oh well. I planted accordingly.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1168_zpslteinu1q.jpg Here is the garlic and carrots. Garlic will probably die back this week becasue it is going to be mid 20s at night. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1169_zpsjsmjylgg.jpg And every now and then I'll go outside and pull up a carrot, wash it and eat it. Sooooo good. Wife has asked for a dedicated fall carrot bed if I expand the garden. She wants a carrot every day. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1170_zpsnun0cq6o.jpg I wanna move south. We are in the dead of winter. Of course....I wouldn't know what to do with a hurricane and would likely panic.
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Quoted: Your new facebook header as CARROT MAN Faster than a speeding carrot... http://www.fototime.com/0AFA4C4B3ADE079/standard.jpg  |
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Whelp, the swiss chard got battered by the frozen nights and I don't think I want to do greens in the spring where it currently is. I am thinking about planting some more leeks to finish out the leek/chard bed and stock my freezer and my folks' freezer for the year. Monday would have been the perfect day to do this because its been raining since then |
| Stressful day at work. Stressful evening at home. So I went to the garden with a cigar and onion sets and planted in the dark. I planted 18 Texas super sweet, 12 red creole and 12 candy. Texas in the three rows nearest the garlic, then 2 rows of candy and 2 rows of creole. I did an 8 inch grid for spacing. Pics will come in the next few days. |
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Photo time!!! First up are the leeks. They're planted pretty close to the bottom of the bed. I think there is 76 total.  Garlic in the front, onions in the back.  If you look close in this picture, the two rows on onions on the right look more red (Creole) and the three on left look huge (Texas). Spacing is an 8x8 grid. No trenches or fertilizer because of my soil numbers on page 2.  Here is a close up of what the garlic looks like. The freeze has been getting to it, thankfully.  I noticed some of the garlic is standing and some is folded over. The garlic on the right actually receives the least amount of sun because it is shaded by the privacy fence for part of the morning.  |
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First up are the leeks. They're planted pretty close to the bottom of the bed. I think there is 76 total. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1288_zpsmgv1i5cx.jpg~original Garlic in the front, onions in the back. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1289_zpsw5pj0hx7.jpg~original If you look close in this picture, the two rows on onions on the right look more red (Creole) and the three on left look huge (Texas). Spacing is an 8x8 grid. No trenches or fertilizer because of my soil numbers on page 2. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1291_zpstpurmas0.jpg~original Here is a close up of what the garlic looks like. The freeze has been getting to it, thankfully. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1292_zpsmmxflxy3.jpg~original I noticed some of the garlic is standing and some is folded over. The garlic on the right actually receives the least amount of sun because it is shaded by the privacy fence for part of the morning. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1290_zpsz6p10i0h.jpg~original Your lettering on the pretty tags makes a lovely garden even in the winter. ETA: When you harvest your garlic, if you have time, will you do a side by side comparison of the varieties? I haven't grown garlic--my dad grew it when I was a little girl, but he grew whatever was in the bin at the feed store, then saved some bulbs for the next year. I'm interested in learning. That takes time of course, so if you can't, no worries. |
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Quoted: Your lettering on the pretty tags makes a lovely garden even in the winter. ETA: When you harvest your garlic, if you have time, will you do a side by side comparison of the varieties? I haven't grown garlic--my dad grew it when I was a little girl, but he grew whatever was in the bin at the feed store, then saved some bulbs for the next year. I'm interested in learning. That takes time of course, so if you can't, no worries. Quoted: Quoted: Photo time!!! First up are the leeks. They're planted pretty close to the bottom of the bed. I think there is 76 total. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1288_zpsmgv1i5cx.jpg~original Garlic in the front, onions in the back. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1289_zpsw5pj0hx7.jpg~original If you look close in this picture, the two rows on onions on the right look more red (Creole) and the three on left look huge (Texas). Spacing is an 8x8 grid. No trenches or fertilizer because of my soil numbers on page 2. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1291_zpstpurmas0.jpg~original Here is a close up of what the garlic looks like. The freeze has been getting to it, thankfully. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1292_zpsmmxflxy3.jpg~original I noticed some of the garlic is standing and some is folded over. The garlic on the right actually receives the least amount of sun because it is shaded by the privacy fence for part of the morning. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1290_zpsz6p10i0h.jpg~original Your lettering on the pretty tags makes a lovely garden even in the winter. ETA: When you harvest your garlic, if you have time, will you do a side by side comparison of the varieties? I haven't grown garlic--my dad grew it when I was a little girl, but he grew whatever was in the bin at the feed store, then saved some bulbs for the next year. I'm interested in learning. That takes time of course, so if you can't, no worries. Here is a link to the tags if anyone is looking for them. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0078IF6TW?psc They seem to be holding up well. She used a paint pen on them. sharpie wouldn't take.Pictures are no problem. They'd probably end up here anyways without asking. I'm (not so) secretly using this thread as a garden diary so I can keep track of planting times and such while showing everyone what not to do In a perfect world I would be able to save all my garlic out in the open. But my world is far from perfect. I am testing a head right now and it has kept a little over a month with no soft spots. But, in the summer my house is 10 degrees warmer. I'm afraid I'll have to freeze what I want to store long term and might be SOL for a self-sustained planting stock. |
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Never thought I would be making a post about the three trellises being blown over. A bad line of storms came across the southeast in the past 48 hours. This morning when I was getting my daughter to daycare I noticed all three trellises were down. All three were tipped over. Two were tipped onto the fence. Those winds must have been perfect because each trellis had a wide base but nothing else was damaged. If you look at the last set of pictures I posted, the last picture has the two that tipped over the fence in the background.   |
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Never thought I would be making a post about the three trellises being blown over. A bad line of storms came across the southeast in the past 48 hours. This morning when I was getting my daughter to daycare I noticed all three trellises were down. All three were tipped over. Two were tipped onto the fence. Those winds must have been perfect because each trellis had a wide base but nothing else was damaged. If you look at the last set of pictures I posted, the last picture has the two that tipped over the fence in the background. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1308_zpswb3rlr0b.jpg~original http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/samiamgarden/IMG_1309_zpsbeii2yrt.jpg~original So are they hinged at the top and were just sitting on top of the beds? If so, they'd have blown down first thing if I did that up here. We have to anchor everything. |
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