Sig 516 (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: 2/7/2018 12:14:43 AM EDT
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Please, Please, Please make an M-Lok rail for the Sig 516 rifle!
Their quad is heavy and short with the gas block eating up space. Only Lancer makes an aftermarket hand guard now, and it is Carbon Fiber. |
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This gets posted in here every once in a while. I pray that at some point they listen. I think they would sell quite a few because I think there are quite a few people that have these rifles and they aren't cheap so I think we that have them would be willing to lay out a few bucks to make a somewhat expensive rifle 100000% nicer.
I am in for one of each (516 & 716) if they ever make them. |
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@Midwest_Ind,
If you make it they will come. I would definitely get one from you guys. Not sure if you know, but over the last 12-18 months Sig has been selling their 516 uppers at a great price on sale. They sell out of the batch they list within 6 hours or so each time if you follow the reddit gun deals. So a lot of new owners are entering the fold plus a lot of the old ones. All of whom have been waiting for someone in the industry to step up and make an aluminum MLOK rail. It shouldn't be too hard to take an existing MLOK rail of yours that has the correct ID to clear the gas block and all the piston parts and make a cutout for the gas block. Any chance you guys would be willing to do this? |
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
I harass them every year at SHOT for this. I will send them my upper to work off of.  Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
I have a 516 here . I will look at it but will give you zero time frame on when we would start it since we are swamped with orders. thanks Troy MI Hopefully when you guys have caught up on your orders and have free time, you'll look at making something for the Sig 516 community. |
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Troy, I'm not aware of that, but as one other poster stated, Sig has repeatedly dropped tons of 516 uppers in recent months. There is certainly a growing market even if the platform is no longer supported. The channel size needed for the pistol system is ~15/32 (OEM handguards) |
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I have a design finished . I am going to rapid prototype one and see what we think before we make chips. like I told you all its going to be a few months before we even can get these into a machine . thanks Troy MI |
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Troy, I'm not aware of that, but as one other poster stated, Sig has repeatedly dropped tons of 516 uppers in recent months. There is certainly a growing market even if the platform is no longer supported. The channel size needed for the pistol system is ~15/32 (OEM handguards) But like you said, if one looks at the various Reddit gun communities, a lot of people have been snatching these 516 uppers up when Sig runs the sales (how can't you for $400-600 depending on the deal). A common comment is how we all wish that someone would make a slimmer profile MLOK rail for it. I think MI could corner the market and do well. Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
I have a design finished . I am going to rapid prototype one and see what we think before we make chips. like I told you all its going to be a few months before we even can get these into a machine . thanks Troy MI Any chance you would still include the QD swivel mount into the hand guard? |
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Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
The design has 5 QD sockets. Troy MI Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Can you share the design here for our excitement?  |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer: Sounds really nice. Look forward to seeing what the design looks like when you are ready to share it. Agreed. Happy to see that there is some potential with this project. Even if it is a few months out from a production run. |
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Ok guys here is the deal. We have a ton going on here at Midwest Industries. When we have machine time we will run this handguard, but do not expect to see them for another 4 or so months. We will not have a price for you folks until we have actually run a batch as we do not know production machine time. We do not have any plans to make a 716 handguard. When I asked Troy he said "Not going to happen". These handguards have M-LOK at the 3,6, & 9:00 o'clock positions and have 5 QD sockets built in. The handguard is designed to accept the Magpul type II covers. I do not have a weight for you yet. I will post it when we do but it will be after we have an actual production part so its going to be weeks. This handguard is 9.25" and we are not looking to make other lengths. We are not going to be making changes to this design. As I said we have a ton going on here and this project will be done when we can, but calling with questions will get you no where. Please do not call and ask the technical support/ sales team questions as they will not have answers for you. Troy was very admit about this. Here are some pre production photos: 
Thank you, Pete |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
@Midwest_Ind Pete/Troy, that looks very sharp. Thanks for sharing the pictures. I can definitely wait until summer time for that. Would be worth it. Troy MI |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
Just wondering at the 1:30, 4:30, 7:30 and 10:30 spots, is there an advantage going with the circle cuts vs. oval or even more MLOK slots at those locations from a structural or improved airflow benefit? Holes offer less weight and look like our family of two piece free float hand guards . If we had Mlok on seven sides the Mag Pul type panels would not have fit as the flats would have been to wide . There were also other factors like hardware and sling swivel pockets to consider. This hand guard design will make installation extremely simple and can be put back to stock with zero modifications to the rifle .This design also uses existing material and that made the design more attractive from a ease of production standpoint . Troy MI |
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Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
Given the diameter there are a few things. Holes offer less weight and look like our family of two piece free float hand guards . If we had Mlok on seven sides the Mag Pul type panels would not have fit as the flats would have been to wide . There were also other factors like hardware and sling swivel pockets to consider. This hand guard design will make installation extremely simple and can be put back to stock with zero modifications to the rifle .This design also uses existing material and that made the design more attractive from a ease of production standpoint . Troy MI Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
Originally Posted By tranzformer:
Just wondering at the 1:30, 4:30, 7:30 and 10:30 spots, is there an advantage going with the circle cuts vs. oval or even more MLOK slots at those locations from a structural or improved airflow benefit? Holes offer less weight and look like our family of two piece free float hand guards . If we had Mlok on seven sides the Mag Pul type panels would not have fit as the flats would have been to wide . There were also other factors like hardware and sling swivel pockets to consider. This hand guard design will make installation extremely simple and can be put back to stock with zero modifications to the rifle .This design also uses existing material and that made the design more attractive from a ease of production standpoint . Troy MI |
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Thanks there’s a bunch of stuff going on that’s not mentioned . I am not the guy to type multiple pages . I am glad you like it. I think it will address the requirements needed . With all our stuff we focused on quality , looks , features and affordable price . Troy. MI |
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Any chance on making ones for the shorter upper as well? Maybe see how these go or am I going to have to send one to the #chopboss Also, if yall need a short upper, I'll ship yall one.  Troy MI |
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Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
The short model hand guard is easy. I need to see how these go before I run more parts. I have other things flying off the shelves . Troy MI Originally Posted By Midwest_Ind:
Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Any chance on making ones for the shorter upper as well? Maybe see how these go or am I going to have to send one to the #chopboss Also, if yall need a short upper, I'll ship yall one. Troy MI |
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| I like it but I need longer. That is almost the same size as the OEM quad rail. What I would buy would be one that goes 15" or so so it looks like all the other handguards out there. That's what I really hate about mine. If you make a longer one I would definitely commit to buying one. |
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Originally Posted By XSentinel:
I like it but I need longer. That is almost the same size as the OEM quad rail. What I would buy would be one that goes 15" or so so it looks like all the other handguards out there. That's what I really hate about mine. If you make a longer one I would definitely commit to buying one. |
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| I just wanted to say thank you for doing this. I am a long time reader of this forum but have never made an account until now. I am super pumped about this and decided to make an account just to say thanks. I purchased a 14.5" Upper from sig during one of the several contract overrun sales they have had over the last few years. The 516 is a great platform but the handguard made me avoid it whenever I reached into the safe. If you scour the corners of the internet reading about the 516 this same complaint can be found thousands and thousands of times. With the only other option being the lancer handguard (which a lot of people including myself don't care for) I am positive this will be a big hit. I am looking forward to this and will be watching for the day it goes up for sale. Again THANK YOU. |
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
With it being an adjustable piston on the front of the block, that would be... interesting. Also, since the bottom of the handguard slides off with a couple of screws, you could slide the bottom of the handguard off, adjust piston, slide it back on, tighten the screws and GTG. I mean I have fired my 516 a lot and I never adjusted the piston ever. The only time I touch the piston is when I am cleaning it, and if the bottom portion of the handguard slipped off I would remove it to clean the piston anyway. I think it could be done and people would love it. |
