Posted: 3/6/2011 10:25:20 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if Alexander Arms has always marked it's receivers with the company name?
I picked up a Beowulf upper in trade, but the upper receiver is not marked. I found a company online named "Satern' that lists stripped Beowulf uppers, but have been unable to find any info on markings their receivers may/may not have. |
| Satern is in cahoots with AA, so I would say most likely, whatever Satern sells is licensed and manufactured by the same place that AA uses. I believe all the uppers from AA say Alex-A on them, not sure on the Satern purchased ones though. Satern wouldn't sell crap anyways, so if they got them in stock, I would be 100% confident purchasing one from them regardless of what they say on them! |
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Originally Posted By Curlymaple42:
Satern is in cahoots with AA, so I would say most likely, whatever Satern sells is licensed and manufactured by the same place that AA uses. I believe all the uppers from AA say Alex-A on them, not sure on the Satern purchased ones though. Satern wouldn't sell crap anyways, so if they got them in stock, I would be 100% confident purchasing one from them regardless of what they say on them! Curly, Any ideas on where my unmarked Beo upper might have come from? |
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I'm really looking for the manufacturer of the upper receiver, but if it helps narrow it down;
The barrel is unmarked. It is 16" in length, and was threaded. Upon closer inspection there is a 'keyhole' marking on the upper receiver on the ejection port side, above the forward assist and behind the ejection port. This upper came to me in a trade with my gunsmith, who is an FFL. It look exactly like the "Entry" model on Alexander Arms' website. |
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Originally Posted By tackleberry1145:
I'm really looking for the manufacturer of the upper receiver, but if it helps narrow it down; The barrel is unmarked. It is 16" in length, and was threaded. Upon closer inspection there is a 'keyhole' marking on the upper receiver on the ejection port side, above the forward assist and behind the ejection port. This upper came to me in a trade with my gunsmith, who is an FFL. It look exactly like the "Entry" model on Alexander Arms' website. I understand. But since the upper is bare, sometimes the barrel can give a hint regarding who/when the upper was constructed. Not much help in this case, except for the keyhole marking. Research underway. |
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Originally Posted By GrendelAA:
Originally Posted By tackleberry1145:
I'm really looking for the manufacturer of the upper receiver, but if it helps narrow it down; The barrel is unmarked. It is 16" in length, and was threaded. Upon closer inspection there is a 'keyhole' marking on the upper receiver on the ejection port side, above the forward assist and behind the ejection port. This upper came to me in a trade with my gunsmith, who is an FFL. It look exactly like the "Entry" model on Alexander Arms' website. I understand. But since the upper is bare, sometimes the barrel can give a hint regarding who/when the upper was constructed. Not much help in this case, except for the keyhole marking. Research underway. Thanks! I got the upper from my EX-gunsmith (he apparently spent too much time staring at the mill while it was spinning and took the crazy train to split personality town). I am not super worked up one way or another about it's manufacturer, but it would be nice to know! I've since washed my hands of the ex-smith, so asking him is not an option. |
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During the first year or so of Beowulf builds, unmarked uppers from Rock River were used and sourced from Superior Machine.
From the information given: Best estimate is an AA upper produced in late 2001 or early 2002, with a Lothar Walther barrel. The bolt and barrel extension were produced most likely by Inovo at that time. They looked remarkably like the current Entry uppers, so that fits. You appear to have one of the very early Beowulf uppers. Is it still running fine? |
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Originally Posted By GrendelAA:
During the first year or so of Beowulf builds, unmarked uppers from Rock River were used and sourced from Superior Machine. From the information given: Best estimate is an AA upper produced in late 2001 or early 2002, with a Lothar Walther barrel. The bolt and barrel extension were produced most likely by Inovo at that time. They looked remarkably like the current Entry uppers, so that fits. You appear to have one of the very early Beowulf uppers. Is it still running fine? Wow! Thank you very much, that is a tremendous amount of info! That time frame sounds about right, I can recall when my ex-'smith got his Beowulf years ago (If I recall correctly he bought two). This upper has exactly 5 rounds through it! All 5 rounds functioned fine ;-) He had it tucked away (unfired) in the rafters above his work bench (he was SUPPOSED to be buildling me a dissy upper, but 9 months into it I told him I would 'settle' for the Beo upper if I could get it quicker. The one thing I don't care for is the muzzle break/hider. The 'smith pinned a phantom style hider on it...arrgh. I think he did it to piss me off (the threaded upper had nothing on the muzzle when we made the deal, he said he would put the appropriate hider on it for me...). No big deal. I'm gonna try for one of AA's hiders/brakes when I get a few bucks saved up, they look killer! Thanks again for your time! |
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The original, and I mean first flight AA uppers were from Rock River. They were dual marked with RR on one side and Alexander Arms on the other. I think almost all of those went out as factory guns during the first years sales. There were a pile that were never bought or transfered and remained in limbo between the two companies.
I think Rock River finally made a decision and disposed of the "extras". But, this was like 2003, and several in this configuration have surfaced in gunshows. But they are interesting no matter where they came from. |
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Originally Posted By Trigon1:
The original, and I mean first flight AA uppers were from Rock River. They were dual marked with RR on one side and Alexander Arms on the other. I think almost all of those went out as factory guns during the first years sales. There were a pile that were never bought or transfered and remained in limbo between the two companies. I think Rock River finally made a decision and disposed of the "extras". But, this was like 2003, and several in this configuration have surfaced in gunshows. But they are interesting no matter where they came from. Hmmm...never seen an UPPER marked on both sides. There were LOWERS marked as such. |
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Sorry, you are correct. The lowers were marked on both sides. Had my train of thought interrupted midway and finished the email later.
The early units also had a weird ring at the muzzle if viewed head on. It was a function of the machining technique rather than a planned operation. Mine is a "very" early unit and had never had an issue at all. Has accounted for more hogs than I can remember. |