Question about the new Corto (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/23/2016 4:52:30 PM EDT
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For the limited info we saw on the Corto from SHOT it looks like a 30 cal suppressor. Is it fine to run on a 308 like an obr or predatar? How much louder is it in that capacity compared to the TranQuilo? Any idea on when they might be on the website available to order? Does it require a different muzzle brake than the TranQuilo? Thank you. |
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From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo .
I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed 
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Originally Posted By jaycoux:
For the limited info we saw on the quarto from SHOT it looks like a 30 cal suppressor. Is it fine to run on a 308 like an obr or predatar? How much louder is it in that capacity compared to the TranQuilo? Any idea on when they might be on the website available to order? Does it require a different muzzle brake than the TranQuilo? Thank you. I believe the name of it was called the Sirge or something like that. |
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Originally Posted By icecold1:
From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo . I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed
Pete I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. |
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Originally Posted By spizike9:
I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. Originally Posted By spizike9:
Originally Posted By icecold1:
From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo . I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed
Pete I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. The SURG has to have a flash hider .... didn't try the brake in the Corto, maybe it'll fit. If not, we can knock a smidge off until it will. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: The SURG has to have a flash hider .... didn't try the brake in the Corto, maybe it'll fit. If not, we can knock a smidge off until it will. Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Originally Posted By spizike9: Originally Posted By icecold1: From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo . I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed Pete I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. The SURG has to have a flash hider .... didn't try the brake in the Corto, maybe it'll fit. If not, we can knock a smidge off until it will. OK... What is the Corto and what is the Surge?? I'm confused!! |
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G Originally Posted By jaycoux:
OK... What is the Corto and what is the Surge?? I'm confused!! Originally Posted By jaycoux:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By spizike9:
Originally Posted By icecold1:
From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo . I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed
Pete I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. The SURG has to have a flash hider .... didn't try the brake in the Corto, maybe it'll fit. If not, we can knock a smidge off until it will. OK... What is the Corto and what is the Surge?? I'm confused!! The Corto is our "short" TranQuilo suppressor designed to slap onto our version of the S.U.R.G. The SURG is 'Suppressed Upper Reciever Group' ... We had them in full-auto 5.56 and a 300 BLK on the ATAC demo day line ... The 300 had 1,500 rounds full-auto and looked like 6 had been shot through it at end of the day. Trying to keep up with the cool guy marketing, after looking at the 300 BLK in the condition it was in when it left the line at end of the day, I was thinking NBP - Negative Back Pressure ...comes with a built-in vacuum cleaner to keep upper receiver in pristine condition during "real-world hard use".
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From the LaRue Booth thread ... Originally Posted By bwall85:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
There is a TranQuilo Corto (short) equipped 12" S.I.R.G./ Stealth 2.0 on display on our booth counter in 300 BLK that 1,500 rounds went through full-auto on Monday ... we purposely left it intact, did not clean it, as an example of lack of back-pressure. Ask for a flashlight if you don't have one, to get a good illuminated look inside. We're also serving coffee all day, every day. 
will the Cortos mount to the tranquilo brakes/adapters that are already available or do they need their own mount like pictured in fingar's pictures? ETA - this one...  |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
G The Corto is our "short" TranQuilo suppressor designed to slap onto our version of the S.U.R.G. The SURG is 'Suppressed Upper Reciever Group' ... We had them in full-auto 5.56 and a 300 BLK on the ATAC demo day line ... The 300 had 1,500 rounds full-auto and looked like 6 had been shot through it at end of the day. Trying to keep up with the cool guy marketing, after looking at the 300 BLK in the condition it was in when it left the line at end of the day, I was thinking NBP - Negative Back Pressure ...comes with a built-in vacuum cleaner to keep upper receiver in pristine condition during "real-world hard use". Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
G Originally Posted By jaycoux:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By spizike9:
Originally Posted By icecold1:
From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo . I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed
Pete I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. The SURG has to have a flash hider .... didn't try the brake in the Corto, maybe it'll fit. If not, we can knock a smidge off until it will. OK... What is the Corto and what is the Surge?? I'm confused!! The Corto is our "short" TranQuilo suppressor designed to slap onto our version of the S.U.R.G. The SURG is 'Suppressed Upper Reciever Group' ... We had them in full-auto 5.56 and a 300 BLK on the ATAC demo day line ... The 300 had 1,500 rounds full-auto and looked like 6 had been shot through it at end of the day. Trying to keep up with the cool guy marketing, after looking at the 300 BLK in the condition it was in when it left the line at end of the day, I was thinking NBP - Negative Back Pressure ...comes with a built-in vacuum cleaner to keep upper receiver in pristine condition during "real-world hard use". Thanks for correcting me on the terminology. Sounds like there will be some SBR suppressed uppers in the near future. |
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Originally Posted By BS68280:
So is the SURG synonymous with the stealth 2.0? Originally Posted By BS68280:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
^^^ Maybe train car loads of 'em. So is the SURG synonymous with the stealth 2.0? As we read the solicitation, The SURG has to measure at or under 24" from tip of can to back of receiver (just to be sure, we measured it to the charging handle). Barrel has to be 11.5" minimum, and since one of our 12.0" barrels holds 3rd place on the 1MOA Chalkenge ... we went with it. Has to have Keymod / MLok on the handguard ... so we used our Stealth 2.0 since it had Keymod and we already had it drawn. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: G The Corto is our "short" TranQuilo suppressor designed to slap onto our version of the S.U.R.G. The SURG is 'Suppressed Upper Reciever Group' ... We had them in full-auto 5.56 and a 300 BLK on the ATAC demo day line ... The 300 had 1,500 rounds full-auto and looked like 6 had been shot through it at end of the day. Trying to keep up with the cool guy marketing, after looking at the 300 BLK in the condition it was in when it left the line at end of the day, I was thinking NBP - Negative Back Pressure ...comes with a built-in vacuum cleaner to keep upper receiver in pristine condition during "real-world hard use". Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: G Originally Posted By jaycoux: Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: Originally Posted By spizike9: Originally Posted By icecold1: From gathering info from other threads my .02 is; it is a 30 cal brake,requires the short muzzle adaptor and no one but Larue knows the db differences.as to ordering one I would not get too excited as they have yet to fill the week one l.e.p.e. Of fath orders for the Tranquillo . I like the mini,but not the need for separate muzzle devices.so unless the db reduction matches the full size you guys can have it.of course if they release a 300 bulk upper then maybe I could be swayed Pete I was told by Tim that the muzzle device will only come in a FH and like you said it won't be interchangeable with the TranQuilo. The SURG has to have a flash hider .... didn't try the brake in the Corto, maybe it'll fit. If not, we can knock a smidge off until it will. OK... What is the Corto and what is the Surge?? I'm confused!! The Corto is our "short" TranQuilo suppressor designed to slap onto our version of the S.U.R.G. The SURG is 'Suppressed Upper Reciever Group' ... We had them in full-auto 5.56 and a 300 BLK on the ATAC demo day line ... The 300 had 1,500 rounds full-auto and looked like 6 had been shot through it at end of the day. Trying to keep up with the cool guy marketing, after looking at the 300 BLK in the condition it was in when it left the line at end of the day, I was thinking NBP - Negative Back Pressure ...comes with a built-in vacuum cleaner to keep upper receiver in pristine condition during "real-world hard use". For those of us more concerned about weight savings than Hollywood quiet, do you think the Corto will take enough sting out of a 308 to make it tolerable with out a full set of earpro? I am referring to someone that will carry a rifle, like a PredatAR hunting and would be likely to make a shot without donning earpro. |
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It dampened that 300 BLK just fine. We'll try it on a 308 when the Shotshow caravan gets back. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
^^^ It dampened that 300 BLK just fine. We'll try it on a 308 when the Shotshow caravan gets back. Plans to offer the stealth 2.0 with a 10.5" barrel? That's the set up I'm looking for and I'm about to chop my tOBR down to make it work. Would love to have a factory option instead. |
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Originally Posted By BS68280:
Plans to offer the stealth 2.0 with a 10.5" barrel? That's the set up I'm looking for and I'm about to chop my tOBR down to make it work. Would love to have a factory option instead. Originally Posted By BS68280:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
^^^ It dampened that 300 BLK just fine. We'll try it on a 308 when the Shotshow caravan gets back. Plans to offer the stealth 2.0 with a 10.5" barrel? That's the set up I'm looking for and I'm about to chop my tOBR down to make it work. Would love to have a factory option instead. Them SF guys said they wanted the SURG to have at least a 11.5" barrel ... |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical: ^^^ It dampened that 300 BLK just fine. We'll try it on a 308 when the Shotshow caravan gets back. I'm thinking the Corto on a PredaTAR would make a nice hunting rig. Not to derail the thread, but are there any plans to offer a 7.62 PredaTAR barrel so that we can just slap that on a PredatOBR? I have been looking for that for some time. If I understand correctly all that would be necessary would be to change out the barrel nut. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Them SF guys said they wanted the SURG to have at least a 11.5" barrel ... Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By BS68280:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
^^^ It dampened that 300 BLK just fine. We'll try it on a 308 when the Shotshow caravan gets back. Plans to offer the stealth 2.0 with a 10.5" barrel? That's the set up I'm looking for and I'm about to chop my tOBR down to make it work. Would love to have a factory option instead. Them SF guys said they wanted the SURG to have at least a 11.5" barrel ... Thanks Mark. Looks like it will be sweet, but since I'm looking for 10.5" for my first SBR upper, I'm gonna look into options to chop the tOBR. Will post pics when i get it figured out and finished. |
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Originally Posted By jeep450: Wonder who's rail that is? http://www.larue.com/media/graphics/SHOT2016_17.jpg Where you been?  |
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Originally Posted By jeep450:
Wonder who's rail that is? http://www.larue.com/media/graphics/SHOT2016_17.jpg Well, it is a LaRue rail. |
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Originally Posted By WTW: I just hope the SURG with Corto is available for purchase in time to get a Form 4 filed for the Corto before the new Rule 41F rules go into effect in early July 2016. 41F isn't that big of a deal is it? Thought they took the teeth out of it. |
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Originally Posted By jaycoux:
41F isn't that big of a deal is it? Thought they took the teeth out of it. Originally Posted By jaycoux:
Originally Posted By WTW:
I just hope the SURG with Corto is available for purchase in time to get a Form 4 filed for the Corto before the new Rule 41F rules go into effect in early July 2016. 41F isn't that big of a deal is it? Thought they took the teeth out of it. It is if you want to add additional NFA items to my existing trust (already with a lot of NFA items) after the 41F effective date and don't want numerous trustees (who may constitute "responsible persons" depending on who you ask and how the trust is drafted) to be have to get fingerprinted and photoed. Don't want this hassle. Just me. |
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Originally Posted By WTW: It is if you want to add additional NFA items to my existing trust (already with a lot of NFA items) after the 41F effective date and don't want numerous trustees (who may constitute "responsible persons" depending on who you ask and how the trust is drafted) to be have to get fingerprinted and photoed. Don't want this hassle. Just me. Originally Posted By WTW: Originally Posted By jaycoux: Originally Posted By WTW: I just hope the SURG with Corto is available for purchase in time to get a Form 4 filed for the Corto before the new Rule 41F rules go into effect in early July 2016. 41F isn't that big of a deal is it? Thought they took the teeth out of it. It is if you want to add additional NFA items to my existing trust (already with a lot of NFA items) after the 41F effective date and don't want numerous trustees (who may constitute "responsible persons" depending on who you ask and how the trust is drafted) to be have to get fingerprinted and photoed. Don't want this hassle. Just me. |
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Originally Posted By jaycoux:
The problem is nobody knows how the verbage is going to be interpreted. I see your point though-it is probably best to get stuff in early and avoid any uncertainty. Originally Posted By jaycoux:
Originally Posted By WTW:
Originally Posted By jaycoux:
Originally Posted By WTW:
I just hope the SURG with Corto is available for purchase in time to get a Form 4 filed for the Corto before the new Rule 41F rules go into effect in early July 2016. 41F isn't that big of a deal is it? Thought they took the teeth out of it. It is if you want to add additional NFA items to my existing trust (already with a lot of NFA items) after the 41F effective date and don't want numerous trustees (who may constitute "responsible persons" depending on who you ask and how the trust is drafted) to be have to get fingerprinted and photoed. Don't want this hassle. Just me. Yes and I don't intend on being the ATF test case on this by adding new NFA items to my existing trust after the 41F effective date. |
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Originally Posted By WTW: Yes and I don't intend on being the ATF test case on this by adding new NFA items to my existing trust after the 41F effective date. Originally Posted By WTW: Originally Posted By jaycoux: Originally Posted By WTW: Originally Posted By jaycoux: Originally Posted By WTW: I just hope the SURG with Corto is available for purchase in time to get a Form 4 filed for the Corto before the new Rule 41F rules go into effect in early July 2016. 41F isn't that big of a deal is it? Thought they took the teeth out of it. It is if you want to add additional NFA items to my existing trust (already with a lot of NFA items) after the 41F effective date and don't want numerous trustees (who may constitute "responsible persons" depending on who you ask and how the trust is drafted) to be have to get fingerprinted and photoed. Don't want this hassle. Just me. Yes and I don't intend on being the ATF test case on this by adding new NFA items to my existing trust after the 41F effective date. We have one in committee right now I'm sure it would set off a showdown though.....Maybe Mark needs to invite Abbott over for a range day.  |
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Now that we are back from the Shotshow, we'll tag team that solicitation and milk it for all it's worth.
If we need it quieter yet, we can knock off that 1/2" of barrel down to 11.5". And we can push the overall length to the edge ... this adds 3/4" to the Cortos length, and if that doesn't do it, we'll slap an extra 1/4" on the OD ... or more. |
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Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Now that we are back from the Shotshow, we'll tag team that solicitation and milk it for all it's worth. If we need it quieter yet, we can knock off that 1/2" of barrel down to 11.5". And we can push the overall length to the edge ... this adds 3/4" to the Cortos length, and if that doesn't do it, we'll slap an extra 1/4" on the OD ... or more. Does having to use that green ammo shitake cause any issues in an SBR or suppressor? |
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Does having to use that green ammo shitake cause any issues in an SBR or suppressor? Originally Posted By Defender3:
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Now that we are back from the Shotshow, we'll tag team that solicitation and milk it for all it's worth. If we need it quieter yet, we can knock off that 1/2" of barrel down to 11.5". And we can push the overall length to the edge ... this adds 3/4" to the Cortos length, and if that doesn't do it, we'll slap an extra 1/4" on the OD ... or more. Does having to use that green ammo shitake cause any issues in an SBR or suppressor? Should increase barrel sales.
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| I'm in the market for another mini size can...will be keeping an eye on that Corto. I really want to get any form 4's for upcoming can purchases in before the new requirements...yeah, just like everyone else. One in the pipeline right now, hoping my Tranquilo gets in...not getting my hopes up on this one. |
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Mark will the Cortos be "better" on a 5.56 12" and 14.5" barrel compared to the TranQuilo?
The TranQuilo mounts shipped out last week that have been on back order. I'm wondering now if I need to hold off having one P/W on the 14.5". Will the Costos mount work on the TranQuilo? |
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Originally Posted By StevethePirate:
So, bringing this back from the dead. Any updates on the Corto? 
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Any updates as to a final product? I’d be in on a shorter tranquillo using the same brake or a newly released flash hider that also fits both suppressor’s.
Think of it as a lighter/shorter duty/home defense supressor. I’m ready for another LEPE of faith as long as the muzzle devices allow both suppressors to interchange Pete |