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8/14/2024 4:05:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore][Edited]
I'm making these because I've see the $50 amazon covers fall apart at the stitching on their first outing.   There is no situation I'll ever be in where any cover is worth $200+ to me.   I'm working with a local industrial taylor because I want covers for each of my suppressors. This is my own personal pet project.
In this process I'm hoping to make a couple dozen or so that I can sell for $40-50.  These covers work, but they aren't made by one of the tactical heavy hitters so they will never get the instagram love.   These are being made from material the taylor has in stock.   If there is interest, any pattern can be had, at a price increase.
I'm literally using pot holders I bought on Amazon that are sewn onto custom made covers.  So far they are holding up well.  I'm on the 3rd variation today, and will have the 4th version by Friday with a separate rear cinch.

I hope to have a test example for my 3rd model this weekend.  That can is on a 300WM, so if it holds up on that, it's all good.

These will be made to fit the AEM5, AE30, M4, AEM530 and the M24/3rd model.

I'm making these to eliminate mirage on my precision rifles.  I have no expectations of these holding up under heavy sustained fire.  
That said, I have have high temp fiberglass and sleeving material arriving tomorrow to allow for sustained use.   This will be a separate item that can be used under the suppressor cover.   I'll test it out with my friends M16 in the next week or so.










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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 4:10:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5pt56][Edited] [#1]
Love this!!! In for 6.  And pic thread....
"Do not pray for easy lives. Pray for stronger men."
My friends call me "The Plug".
8/14/2024 4:15:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MK3110][Edited] [#2]
Count me in for a couple!

8/14/2024 4:18:44 PM EDT
[#3]
I'm down for at least one. Maybe a bit too long for my PSR5, but I doubt that'll cause any real problems. What patterns are available and how much of a price increase are we talking?
8/14/2024 4:32:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pomyluy:
I'm down for at least one. Maybe a bit too long for my PSR5, but I doubt that'll cause any real problems. What patterns are available and how much of a price increase are we talking?
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They will be 10", 11" and 12" long.

The patterns available are those shown in the OP.   If after I get some of these out and people are happy, they can be made in any pattern that exists in the materiel  used.  No idea on cost increase, it will depend on materiel cost availability quantity, etc..
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 4:53:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:


They will be 10", 11" and 12" long.

The patterns available are those shown in the OP.   If after I get some of these out and people are happy, they can be made in any pattern that exists in the materiel  used.  No idea on cost increase, it will depend on materiel cost availability quantity, etc..
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Got it. Mark me down for a 10" in tan please.
8/14/2024 7:00:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore][Edited] [#6]
To start a record of what people want, post what size and colorc and I'll contact you when done.

Cover material options we have:
1. OD Green
2. Coyote out for now
3. Gray
4. Black
5. German DOT Camo
6. Multicam out for now
7. Giraffe

Webbing colors we have:
A. OD Green
B. Coyote
C. Green
D. Black

This is material left over from his previous jobs, so there is probably only enough for 10 or so of each camo style, but there is plenty of the solid colors.

I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 7:07:38 PM EDT
[#7]
What lengths would be needed to cover an AEM5 and AE M4/Gordon can with enough material to get the rear cinch to alleviate the cover walking forward under sustained fire?
8/14/2024 7:16:51 PM EDT
[#8]
M81!!!

Looks like the pics closets is the digicam. So one 10” and one 12” in digicam with OD green webbing.

Assuming those will be best sizes for AEM5 and AEM5-30.
8/14/2024 7:24:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
What lengths would be needed to cover an AEM5 and AE M4/Gordon can with enough material to get the rear cinch to alleviate the cover walking forward under sustained fire?
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10" for the AEM5

I dont have an M4 to test fit so I dont know of the 11" would be necessary.  If you dont mind  .25 of the front of the can exposed the 10" will work.  It may not even stick out that much.  Next week I should have some 10" with the new cinch pieces and I can show you how it fits on an AEM5.

I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 7:26:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MK3110:
M81!!!

Looks like the pics closets is the digicam. So one 10” and one 12” in digicam with OD green webbing.

Assuming those will be best sizes for AEM5 and AEM5-30.
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you need 10" and 11".  The 12" is for the M24 and the Griffin MGL suppressors.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 7:38:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:


10" for the AEM5

I dont have an M4 to test fit so I dont know of the 11" would be necessary.  If you dont mind  .25 of the front of the can exposed the 10" will work.  It may not even stick out that much.  Next week I should have some 10" with the new cinch pieces and I can show you how it fits on an AEM5.

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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
What lengths would be needed to cover an AEM5 and AE M4/Gordon can with enough material to get the rear cinch to alleviate the cover walking forward under sustained fire?


10" for the AEM5

I dont have an M4 to test fit so I dont know of the 11" would be necessary.  If you dont mind  .25 of the front of the can exposed the 10" will work.  It may not even stick out that much.  Next week I should have some 10" with the new cinch pieces and I can show you how it fits on an AEM5.



Sweet, thanks.
8/14/2024 8:09:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: martinmayhem][Edited] [#12]
I'd be interested in a coyote and black for the AEM5.  (10")
8/14/2024 8:15:07 PM EDT
[#13]
I’d be in for a 10" and 12" in MultiCam
8/14/2024 8:34:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87:
I’d be in for a 10" and 12" in MultiCam
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tan webbing?
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 8:39:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By martinmayhem:
I'd be interested in a coyote and black for the AEM5.  (10")
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Do you want 2? One black and one coyote?  What color webbing?
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 8:45:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Great minds think alike, Steve.

I'm planning to stitch-bitch covers for the AEM-5, AEM5-30, and KAC 7.62 QDC PRG.

I'm using OD Green Nomex fabric salvaged from AirSave body armor and a Multicam Fire Resistant ACU jacket.  Lining is from salvaged kevlar panels from a CVC crewman body armor vest.

I'm waiting on Nomex thread as I think standard military #69 nylon thread will melt.
8/14/2024 8:54:35 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By Sinister:
Great minds think alike, Steve.

I'm planning to stitch-bitch covers for the AEM-5, AEM5-30, and KAC 7.62 QDC PRG.

I'm using OD Green Nomex fabric salvaged from AirSave body armor and a Multicam Fire Resistant ACU jacket.  Lining is from salvaged kevlar panels from a CVC crewman body armor vest.

I'm waiting on Nomex thread as I think standard military #69 nylon thread will melt.
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You have all the cool stuff laying around.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/14/2024 9:03:13 PM EDT
[#18]
1 x 10" cover, coyote + coyote webbing
8/14/2024 9:20:57 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
You have all the cool stuff laying around.
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I'll follow this thread to see how yours come out.  I can do a few prototypes once the thread comes in.
8/14/2024 9:45:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
To start a record of what people want, post what size and colorc and I'll contact you when done.

Cover material options we have:
1. OD Green
2. Coyote
3. Gray
4. Black
5. German DOT Camo
6. Multicam
7. Digicam
8. Giraffe

Webbing colors we have:
A. OD Green
B. Coyote
C. Green


This is material left over from his previous jobs, so there is probably only enough for 10 or so of each camo style, but there is plenty of the solid colors.

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We were talking yesterday through IM.
We can keep it here for ease of sale.
Please mark me down for one for an AEM5 length.
Cover: Coyote
Webbing: OD green
8/15/2024 8:27:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: martinmayhem][Edited] [#21]
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8/15/2024 8:28:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:


Do you want 2? One black and one coyote?  What color webbing?
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Originally Posted By martinmayhem:
I'd be interested in a coyote and black for the AEM5.  (10")


Do you want 2? One black and one coyote?  What color webbing?
Yes, I would like two.  If possible, just have the webbing and the material all be the same solid colors.

8/15/2024 4:35:42 PM EDT
[#23]
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tan webbing?
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Tan webbing would look great with MC.
8/15/2024 8:53:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AGR1279][Edited] [#24]
I've purchased several for my AEM-5's and have never been happy with them so I'm in for two.

1. Black w/coyote webbing
2. OD Green w/ green webbing

Daniel
Sheep, Sheepdog or Wolf? What are you?
8/15/2024 9:54:36 PM EDT
[#25]
Here is the 12" fit on the the 3rd/M24 suppressor.  It covers the can just right.  If I add the rear cinch, it has to expose about 1/2" of the front of the suppressor.  
The pot holders are only 10" long so the last 2" is just material floating over the rear of the can.  That section doesn't get nearly as hot as the forward section so I'm not worried.  I have no intention to use the rear cinch.  It's bolt gun, and 10" of friction fit will likely hold it in place with the silicon just fine.  I'll test it this weekend.  I'll cinch it up too and see what the heat does.



The 12" fits just as well on my AEM5-30.  Same deal with the rear cinch.



The 10" with the rear cinch is a perfect fit on the AEM5, which is probably the one everyone is going to worry about it moving on.  I also received my high temp fiberglass sleeving that you can slip on under the cover for some extra heat protection.  Unlike the pictured 10" cover the next ones will have the webbing the full length for the rear cinch loop.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/15/2024 10:30:34 PM EDT
[#26]
Budget project.  Fill the gap with a piece of rolled up fiberglass sleeve.

I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/16/2024 1:50:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SchlaffTablett][Edited] [#27]
I'll take 2 OD green with coyote webbing for AEM5.
"Here's to gunpowder and pussy; live by one, die by the other, love the smell of both."
8/17/2024 10:39:48 AM EDT
[#28]
I’m in for one 10” Coyote with Coyote webbing
8/17/2024 11:11:57 AM EDT
[#29]
here is the 11" final version.
This is the AEM5-30.  If you want to use the rear cinch, you'll have to leave a bit of the end of the can exposed.


On the AE30 it's a perfect flush fit.


If you know anyone with a KAC M110 suppressor or the Griffin MGL clone, the 12" is a perfect fit.





The beta tester/guniea pig orders are done today.   I want to get this first batch out so I can get some feedback before doing the next batch - if there is continued interest.

I'll IM those who expressed interest with a link to pay tomorrow.  Your card will not be charged until the cover ships.  Cost will be $52 + actual shipping.  I'm hoping these will fit in a Priority flat rate envelope.


We are going to start making these next week and should begin shipping by Friday.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/18/2024 6:26:28 PM EDT
[#30]
I’m in for 1 for AEM5 length.

German DOT Camo w/OD green webbing

Thank you!
8/18/2024 7:59:47 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By 545Fan:
I’m in for 1 for AEM5 length.

German DOT Camo w/OD green webbing

Thank you!
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Got it.  You missed the cut off for the original orders, so yours will be in the next batch which will be $62.00.    

I spent a couple more hours at the range today with the original test design, and I'm surprised how well it has held up.   This piece has been on an AEM530 on my .308 bolt gun, and AR10.  A 3rd model on my 300WM,  and a 16th model on my 16" AR, and my 12.5" AR.   All the shooting has been regular range stuff, except I rattled (1 shot a second) through 3 mags with the SBR to see what would happen.   Just over 200rds total of all calibers.  The piece doesn't have the rear cinch, and never once did it move forward.  The silicon contacting the can really holds it in place well.   I do have pieces of high temp fiberglass sleeving cut, but never used them.  I wanted to see what would happen without.   In just test fitting with the fiberglass sleeve - you will need the rear cinch as it is between the can and the silicon.  Those pieces of silicon are available for $10 if anyone wants one.  I'm sure they will prolong the life of the pot holder.

On the current version the webbing isn't sewn through the pot holder.   It was nice to see the thread didn't melt off despite being in contact with the suppressor.  If you know anyone with a sewing machine, you can easily remove the potholder without effecting the cover and sew in your own replacement piece.  The covers are very well made, manually, one at a time but a dude who has a lot of pride in his work.



I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/18/2024 9:27:16 PM EDT
[#32]
I’m in for 1 for AEM5 length.
OD w/OD green webbing please. Please let me know where to send funds and payment methods.

Thanks! These look awesome.
8/19/2024 9:45:15 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By ll33571:
I’m in for 1 for AEM5 length.
OD w/OD green webbing please. Please let me know where to send funds and payment methods.

Thanks! These look awesome.
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https://adcofirearms.com/shop/firearms/ae-suppressor-covers/
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/20/2024 8:44:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore][Edited] [#34]
Assembly is coming along, may be able to ship the first ones this week.



When my wife found out what I was doing she pointed out that part of the product line she manages includes fire  sleeving.  It's made for a Navy contract and it's fail point is 20 minutes at 2000 degrees.   Unfortunately, it is extremely cost prohibitive, and rather heavy.  I have a couple ideas I'll explore with it though.

I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/20/2024 9:55:29 PM EDT
[#35]
Here's some decently priced 1.5" black sleeve material.
For a 25' section it works out to be $6.60/ft but I don't know about shipping costs.
https://www.electriduct.com/thermo-armor-silicone-coated-fiberglass-fire-sleeve.html

8/21/2024 8:53:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore][Edited] [#36]
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Originally Posted By Nobody69s:
Here's some decently priced 1.5" black sleeve material.
For a 25' section it works out to be $6.60/ft but I don't know about shipping costs.
https://www.electriduct.com/thermo-armor-silicone-coated-fiberglass-fire-sleeve.html

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You never know what you're getting with that stuff until you get it.  I've spent more money than expected buying different material in this process.   You gotta pick your compromise.   How are you going to attach the sleeve to the cover to hold it in place?   Not sure the sleeve alone will work as well as the pot holder for mirage, but I think it would work well on the AEM2 on my SBR to prevent burns - but back to attaching the cover.

For extra protection I cut up high temp fibergalss.  I sealed the ends with high temp rtv to prevent fraying and dusted them with plastidip to keep the fibers in place.  This will no doubt be a added layer of mirage mitigation, if needed. And it weighs next to nothing.   I did source a ceramic non frayin/irritating option, but it's $8 a foot.

 

The fire sleeve is 1/4 pound by itself in the same length


As I said earlier, with the covers I'm selling its easy to remove the pot holder without damaging the cover.  Everyone is free to play around with different options.  If you find a better option that works, please share it here.

I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/21/2024 4:35:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:



You never know what you're getting with that stuff until you get it.  I've spent more money than expected buying different material in this process.   You gotta pick your compromise.   How are you going to attach the sleeve to the cover to hold it in place?   Not sure the sleeve alone will work as well as the pot holder for mirage, but I think it would work well on the AEM2 on my SBR to prevent burns - but back to attaching the cover.

For extra protection I cut up high temp fibergalss.  I sealed the ends with high temp rtv to prevent fraying and dusted them with plastidip to keep the fibers in place.  This will no doubt be a added layer of mirage mitigation, if needed. And it weighs next to nothing.   I did source a ceramic non frayin/irritating option, but it's $8 a foot.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20240821_083900-3300313.jpg  

The fire sleeve is 1/4 pound by itself in the same length
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20240821_083929-3300316.jpg

As I said earlier, with the covers I'm selling its easy to remove the pot holder without damaging the cover.  Everyone is free to play around with different options.  If you find a better option that works, please share it here.

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$8/ft is very prohibitive!
I have some extra sleeve material from a burn proof gear cover that I'll probably put under the one that's coming from you.
As far as keeping the sleeve in place I've found from my other covers that if you cinch up the cover really well they won't move around much.
And the silicone on the outside of the sleeve is kind of tacky feeling so once it's on the suppressor just slip the outside cover on and tighten it down.
That's basically all the rifles only ones consist of.
It's a two piece system.
Not at all suggesting you should copy the design but here's a pic for reference.
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8/21/2024 5:06:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore][Edited] [#38]
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Originally Posted By Nobody69s:
That's basically all the rifles only ones consist of.
It's a two piece system.
Not at all suggesting you should copy the design but here's a pic for reference.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/413870/11_HAD-Sleeves-3162786680_jpg-3300741.JPG
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Huh, no shit?  Interesting.  How long / we'll does that slip over firesleeve hold up?   I cooked this one up again today with the above pictured fiberglass and it's doing great.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/21/2024 7:15:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Coming along...



When you install these, overlap the cover edges and they will fit perfect.

I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/21/2024 10:07:05 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By bigbore:


Huh, no shit?  Interesting.  How long / we'll does that slip over firesleeve hold up?   I cooked this one up again today with the above pictured fiberglass and it's doing great.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/1000013032-3300775.jpg
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I've never come close to getting the fire sleeve material to heat up enough to cause any concern.
It's usually used on airplane exhaust systems so I would imagine it would hold up really well over time using a suppressor.

On a side note the covers are looking awesome!
8/22/2024 6:40:51 AM EDT
[#41]
Coyote with coyote webbing for M4
8/22/2024 11:49:15 AM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Coming along...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/FullSizeR-3300874.jpg

When you install these, overlap the cover edges and they will fit perfect.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/12678/20240821_190506-3300875.jpg
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I think I see mine… looks great.
8/22/2024 12:35:37 PM EDT
[#43]
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I think I see mine… looks great.
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Yup, ships out today.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/22/2024 2:30:17 PM EDT
[#44]
10" installed on AEM5.  After today the covers will ship with 6' of paracord and 1 squeezie thing.  You'll have to play whit how you want to tie it.  Just notice the end with the loops at the rear are to go over the back of the can.


I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/26/2024 7:43:28 PM EDT
[#45]
Got mine today, looks great. I did replace the green 550 cord with coyote, couldn't help myself. Including the inner liner was a nice touch, wasn't expecting that.

On a Griffin PSR 5:




Hopefully I'll get to test it out this weekend.
8/26/2024 8:31:16 PM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By Pomyluy:
Got mine today, looks great. I did replace the green 550 cord with coyote, couldn't help myself. Including the inner liner was a nice touch, wasn't expecting that.

On a Griffin PSR 5:

https://i.imgur.com/kVWMA1o.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/iPcMAhH.jpeg

Hopefully I'll get to test it out this weekend.
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Cool, looks like a good fit.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/27/2024 9:40:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore][Edited] [#47]
Has anyone else received theirs yet?  Thoughts?  I have some left overs that people didnt follow through on.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
8/27/2024 9:42:11 AM EDT
[#48]
I received mine Saturday. Looks great, feels sturdy. Haven’t had a chance to shoot with it yet.
8/27/2024 9:14:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Told you yesterday I'd put some rounds through it and did so today.
It mitigated mirage great IMO.
I put 60 rounds of 55gr FMJ through it at approx 1 second intervals and was not experiencing any mirage effects even towards the end.
This should do the trick I needed it to.
I ended up getting some waxed high temp rope from Mcmaster Carr.
I may end up getting black rope to make it more pleasing to my eye.
For the money, these are fantastic!!
For your viewing pleasure I present my MK12ish rifle and cover.
Thanks again for making these come to fruition.
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8/31/2024 6:05:16 PM EDT
[#50]
Received mine as well. Won't be able to get it to the range for another week or so! Fit and finish is awesome.

Thanks!

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