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4/5/2022 10:27:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds][Edited]
We are live with a home page.

Please do not call Palmetto as the CS people have not been brought into the loop yet.


https://hr1871.com/


Please direct all questions to this thread instead of starting new ones.

I will post all updates here and in the JJE-H&R thread in the retro forum.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
4/5/2022 10:59:47 AM EDT
[#1]
Interesting that the webpage alludes to Garands and M16s.
4/5/2022 11:16:44 AM EDT
[#2]
Handi Rifle chambered  in 327
4/5/2022 12:24:18 PM EDT
[#3]
M1s, M16s, and Handi-Rifles! Cool
4/5/2022 3:36:41 PM EDT
[#4]
If you guys end up making some M14s....please an M15 / M14E2 clone too.
M14 is a big meh to me.
But the M14E2 just makes it 10x cooler.
4/5/2022 4:53:39 PM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Interesting that the webpage alludes to Garands and M16s.
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Why wouldn’t it?

Those are going to be the Marquee products.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand
4/8/2022 2:43:46 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:


Why wouldn’t it?

Those are going to be the Marquee products.
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Awesome
4/9/2022 7:21:45 AM EDT
[#7]

We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/9/2022 7:30:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds][Edited] [#8]



Going to have some 9mm’s in the lineup.

Don’t have price or availability yet.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/9/2022 7:31:29 AM EDT
[#9]
Sean has done good work with the website Mike.  I like it and am super excited about y'all!

@panzersergeant
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4/9/2022 7:37:18 AM EDT
[#10]
As I’ve said before, the original break action guns are not going to happen.

I will come up with a single shot rifle of some sort. But it won’t be the Handi rifle.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/9/2022 8:34:11 AM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
As I’ve said before, the original break action guns are not going to happen.

I will come up with a single shot rifle of some sort. But it won’t be the Handi rifle.
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Heck with Henry making them now I feel the guys that are wanting a traditional single shot will be buying one of those.


Now if y’all make a black / synthetic 16” threaded single shot in 300blk/7.62x39/556/9mm/45acp/45lc/357 with milled pic rail on barrel. Think y’all will sale a butt ton of them.

4/9/2022 9:48:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: panzersergeant][Edited] [#12]
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Originally Posted By d16man:
Sean has done good work with the website Mike.  I like it and am super excited about y'all!

@panzersergeant
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I agree. The man does outstanding work.
NorCal_LEO call sign: Armour
4/9/2022 9:55:27 AM EDT
[#13]
This brand would be a good home for a 10/22 clone in the PSA family. Maybe a nice military-inspired stock with 1.25” sling swivels, USGI aperture sights, 1/2x28 threaded muzzle. Finish it with a parkerized look.



4/9/2022 9:57:18 AM EDT
[#14]
Ost
4/9/2022 10:02:55 AM EDT
[#15]
IN for some cool stuff
"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
4/9/2022 11:07:47 AM EDT
[#16]
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
This brand would be a good home for a 10/22 clone in the PSA family. Maybe a nice military-inspired stock with 1.25” sling swivels, USGI aperture sights, 1/2x28 threaded muzzle. Finish it with a parkerized look.



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That’s on my list
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/9/2022 11:57:29 AM EDT
[#17]
If H&R starts selling new M1 garands would there be a chance that H&R will be able to sell new manufactured replacement parts like springs & op rods?

Also is the NEF handi-rifle in the cards in the near future?  I'd love a .223/5.56 with an older style ejector instead of the extractor version I've got.
4/9/2022 12:01:18 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
This brand would be a good home for a 10/22 clone in the PSA family. Maybe a nice military-inspired stock with 1.25" sling swivels, USGI aperture sights, 1/2x28 threaded muzzle. Finish it with a parkerized look.



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Sounds like someone wants a 22lr trainer for appleseed shoots that has similar features to an M1 garand or M1A.  The adjustable aperture site of the garand would be a nice touch.  Want to ask for a bayonet lug while we are at it?
4/9/2022 12:04:30 PM EDT
[#19]
A falling block would have tons of class!
4/9/2022 3:53:12 PM EDT
[#20]
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The markings are forged directly into the lower? Am I seeing that right? Super cool if so.
4/9/2022 3:55:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds][Edited] [#21]
Stamped after the fact
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/9/2022 3:58:21 PM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By mort:
Sounds like someone wants a 22lr trainer for appleseed shoots that has similar features to an M1 garand or M1A.  The adjustable aperture site of the garand would be a nice touch.  Want to ask for a bayonet lug while we are at it?
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I’ve built a few already.

I just made a “youth sized” one for my kid.
4/9/2022 3:59:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Love the lowers, can't really get any more correct than those markings for a retro gun. Really excited for the XM177 clone.
4/9/2022 4:30:43 PM EDT
[#24]
Lowers look awesome!
I’d been in for one. Any way you could match the last 3
numbers on my original demilled H& R lower?Attached File
Attached File
4/9/2022 4:55:00 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Stamped after the fact
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Oh, nice. Why stamped for these but laser engraved for the A1s you've shared?
4/9/2022 5:11:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Different facility.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/9/2022 5:23:11 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Different facility.
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If you have the capability to stamp lowers, stamp them all. Especially since they're retro. If you do that, they will be worth any premium you ask over the PSA clone lowers.
4/9/2022 6:22:11 PM EDT
[#28]
There is a lot of talk on Arf about the M4 TDP.  With the acquisition of H&R, did you guys get M16a1 etc original technical specs?  If so will the new production rifles be using PSA spec'd, Nodak spec'd, or Vietnam era spec'd parts/receivers?
4/9/2022 6:30:03 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:


That’s on my list
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
This brand would be a good home for a 10/22 clone in the PSA family. Maybe a nice military-inspired stock with 1.25” sling swivels, USGI aperture sights, 1/2x28 threaded muzzle. Finish it with a parkerized look.





That’s on my list



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4/10/2022 7:19:33 PM EDT
[#30]
OST
4/10/2022 8:47:05 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By Sorry_Your_Girl_Lost:
There is a lot of talk on Arf about the M4 TDP.  With the acquisition of H&R, did you guys get M16a1 etc original technical specs?  If so will the new production rifles be using PSA spec'd, Nodak spec'd, or Vietnam era spec'd parts/receivers?
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No M16A1 TDP.

I'm going to do my best to make good parts at a higher volume than what we did at NoDak.

I have already been giving the machine shops consternation with my details/specs.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/11/2022 12:51:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SoVa][Edited] [#32]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:


Why wouldn’t it?

Those are going to be the Marquee products.
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@mike_nds is there a rough timeline for the garand?

Compliments to whoever did the website, they managed to capture that retro style with that as well as keep it sleek.
4/11/2022 1:00:27 PM EDT
[#33]
Thanks. That was me and one of the website guys.

No timeline on the M1 Garand yet. They only recently converted the old paper blueprints to a digital format.

I will pass along updates when I have them.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/11/2022 2:53:04 PM EDT
[#34]
OST. Exciting things in this thread.
4/11/2022 4:21:18 PM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
Thanks. That was me and one of the website guys.

No timeline on the M1 Garand yet. They only recently converted the old paper blueprints to a digital format.

I will pass along updates when I have them.
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Very cool, I look for to the updates, a garand is one of those things I’d like to add to the safe if it were relatively available and easy to do but not something im on my head for so I can wait patiently but I will definitely buy one when it’s ready! An xm177 will tide me over though
4/11/2022 4:30:09 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By SoVa:



Very cool, I look for to the updates, a garand is one of those things I’d like to add to the safe if it were relatively available and easy to do but not something im on my head for so I can wait patiently but I will definitely buy one when it’s ready! An xm177 will tide me over though
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XM177 is on def on the list for me.
4/12/2022 8:38:47 AM EDT
[#37]
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/12/2022 9:15:17 AM EDT
[#38]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Colt_609_XM177-2346435.jpg
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Yes that!

But have the upper where I can just buy it and slap it on my sbr lower
4/12/2022 2:11:16 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Colt_609_XM177-2346435.jpg
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16” OAL would be my preference.
4/12/2022 2:16:16 PM EDT
[#40]
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Originally Posted By mort:
Sounds like someone wants a 22lr trainer for appleseed shoots that has similar features to an M1 garand or M1A.  The adjustable aperture site of the garand would be a nice touch.  Want to ask for a bayonet lug while we are at it?
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Originally Posted By mort:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
This brand would be a good home for a 10/22 clone in the PSA family. Maybe a nice military-inspired stock with 1.25" sling swivels, USGI aperture sights, 1/2x28 threaded muzzle. Finish it with a parkerized look.



Sounds like someone wants a 22lr trainer for appleseed shoots that has similar features to an M1 garand or M1A.  The adjustable aperture site of the garand would be a nice touch.  Want to ask for a bayonet lug while we are at it?


I do!

Good sights and a threaded barrel.  Preferably a youth/compact stock option
4/12/2022 2:49:07 PM EDT
[#41]
E2, So 639 style
Like this one. I would prefer non pinned and welded.
Colt Model 639: MACVSOG's Vietnam Carbine
4/13/2022 5:22:16 AM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Colt_609_XM177-2346435.jpg
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I guess the e2 would be best, I can’t justify a stamp for a clone gun, as close to that as possible, pinned and welded muzzle device to get the length right.
4/13/2022 7:16:10 AM EDT
[#43]
If we get to keep the pistol braces, I want to do CAR types based on what BigRix has supplied me.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/
4/13/2022 7:27:34 AM EDT
[#44]
Any idea if we will be buying through the new site or the psa one or both?
4/13/2022 7:17:17 PM EDT
[#45]
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My first issue rifle was a HR M16A1, can't wait to get one.
4/14/2022 10:51:13 AM EDT
[#46]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
If we get to keep the pistol braces, I want to do CAR types based on what BigRix has supplied me.
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That would be sweet!!
4/14/2022 11:40:44 AM EDT
[#47]
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Originally Posted By mike_nds:
So you guys are wanting this? Or do you mean a 16" OAL XM177E2?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/91277/Colt_609_XM177-2346435.jpg
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My first issue was built on an XM177e2 lower. It was a training unit though, so it was configured nothing like it was originally. I'd be in just for the e2 markings, though I'd be tempted to replicate the A1/A2 look mine had.
Every other species kills off their stupid......we cater to them. -- spin-drift
Nobody ever called 911&said I just did something smart. -- TheFlynDutchman
4/17/2022 9:04:28 AM EDT
[#48]
I would love to see you guys bring back the model 999 sportsman.
Top break 22lr revolvers are cool!!
4/20/2022 3:42:51 PM EDT
[#49]
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What's the ETA on the H&R lowers being available?
"I haven't met one burnt end or rib that I haven't liked." -Andy Reid

"Sporterizing: The art of spending $700 on a $300 gun to make it worth $200." -GTwannabe
4/20/2022 4:19:31 PM EDT
[#50]
I’m currently waiting on the second batch of ano samples to come back.

Once I’m satisfied I will send out the first batch of M16A1 lowers and the remaining NoDak uppers I have in house.

I need to make sure our machining centers and the anodizing house are squared away before we turn on full production.

Realistically it will be sometime in May.
We are living in a Tom Clancy novel

Over 50 and reputed to be a formidable brigand

https://hr1871.com/

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