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11/27/2023 2:16:57 PM EDT
Got a this rail from primary arms.
In the box the come with the ladder rails.. NOT the smooth sided rail covers. Wondering is this legit?
11/27/2023 2:38:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Most likely legit.  Primary Arms is an authorized dealer of ours and some of our RIS II assemblies ship with ladders rather than panels.
Joe Marler
Daniel Defense
Law Enforcement Sales Manager
11/27/2023 3:30:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tooly][Edited] [#2]
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Originally Posted By Marler5811:
Most likely legit.  Primary Arms is an authorized dealer of ours and some of our RIS II assemblies ship with ladders rather than panels.
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"Most likely"?
Also noticed on the box the pic has a FDE pic of the rail...but its a blk ris II Also..the two little check boxes for what color is in the box was check FDE, but small white tape was placed over that little box, then the blk was checked off.
Is there a tell tail sign it's 100% real?

And thank you very much for your help.
11/27/2023 5:31:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Post some pics and I can confirm if it's the real thing.  However, I seriously doubt PA is selling knock off DD Rails.
Joe Marler
Daniel Defense
Law Enforcement Sales Manager
11/27/2023 6:08:43 PM EDT
[#4]
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Originally Posted By Marler5811:
Post some pics and I can confirm if it's the real thing.  However, I seriously doubt PA is selling knock off DD Rails.
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I'm old school and will have to find out...give me some time. Lol.
11/28/2023 10:30:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VigilantPanda15][Edited] [#5]
I should point out that Magpul-style ladder rail covers used to be standard on all DD quad rails (and rifles/URGs with quad rails) up until early-2015 or so, when the "snakeskin" rail covers were first introduced.

Joe, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the ladders also come standard with all of the RIS II rails that DD sold to SOCOM? I always figured that's why they're so common in the pics I've seen of Block II rifles being used downrange.
11/29/2023 10:52:01 AM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By VigilantPanda15:
I should point out that Magpul-style ladder rails used to be standard on all DD quad rails (and rifles/URGs with quad rails) up until early-2015 or so, when the "snakeskin" rail covers were first introduced.

Joe, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the ladders also come standard with all of the RIS II rails that DD sold to SOCOM? I always figured that's why they're so common in the pics I've seen of Block II rifles being used downrange.
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Yep.  Contact RIS IIs came with an assortment of Ergo ladder covers and panels.  Earlier commercially packaged rails came with 3 Ergo ladder covers.  Black for Black.  FDE for FDE.
Joe Marler
Daniel Defense
Law Enforcement Sales Manager
11/30/2023 7:30:12 AM EDT
[#7]
Do the new rails come with a NSN #?
12/3/2023 11:21:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: VigilantPanda15][Edited] [#8]
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Originally Posted By tooly:
Do the new rails come with a NSN #?
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If you have a black RIS II (which you implied in an earlier post), that version never came with an NSN, because it's never been issued by SOCOM. Only the FDE RIS II rails will have an NSN, because they're the only versions that ever entered the military's supply chains.

I used to own a factory black MK18 URG (which I purchased directly from Daniel Defense's web site), and mine didn't have the NSN. Whereas my factory M4A1 with an FDE RIS II (which I still own) does have an NSN.
1/30/2024 5:48:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tooly][Edited] [#9]
Thank you...just now seen the post above mine .
1/31/2024 4:55:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tooly][Edited] [#10]
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Originally Posted By VigilantPanda15:


If you have a black RIS II (which you implied in an earlier post), that version never came with an NSN, because it's never been issued by SOCOM. Only the FDE RIS II rails will have an NSN, because they're the only versions that ever entered the military's supply chains.

I used to own a factory black MK18 URG (which I purchased directly from Daniel Defense's web site), and mine didn't have the NSN. Whereas my factory M4A1 with an FDE RIS II (which I still own) does have an NSN.
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Yes....my son also bought me one for Christmas, both are blk.
Thank you for easing up my mind
1/31/2024 5:26:18 AM EDT
[#11]
My RIS II came with ladders

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