IRay Xmini MH25 Helmet-Mountable Thermal Monocular Question Answer and Technical Discussion Thread (Page 2 of 2)
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Originally Posted By Feeble-Prize:
This looks like a great item. I may have one sold one for you to a pal. How does the magnification and the view actually compare with PVS-14 and MUM when one is on each eye? |
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Originally Posted By UNV:
In "helmet mode" the image is a little smaller, but looks like a 1x so it matches the magnification of a PVS-14 or a MUM. The height, standoff, and IP distance on the MH25 are a little off from a MUM/PVS-14. We are looking at ways to make them line up using M-Clips and a modified dovetail. Nothing for sure on that yet, we just know it would be a good idea to make the MH25 line up with standard devices so we are going to find or create a way to make that happen. |
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Originally Posted By Tmm1270:
So as it stand currently, it can't be helmet mounted? Or just not in conjunction with a bridge/14? Sorry if I'm just dumb and misunderstanding |
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Originally Posted By UNV:
No it can be helmet mounted by itself Just fine. It's just that running dual MH25 or any dual combo with night vision might not be exactly right. One unit will be slightly higher than the other or too far to the left or right. It's close, but we want to make it dead on so it's comfortable to use in a bridge. |
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Originally Posted By UNV:
In "helmet mode" the image is a little smaller, but looks like a 1x so it matches the magnification of a PVS-14 or a MUM. The height, standoff, and IP distance on the MH25 are a little off from a MUM/PVS-14. We are looking at ways to make them line up using M-Clips and a modified dovetail. Nothing for sure on that yet, we just know it would be a good idea to make the MH25 line up with standard devices so we are going to find or create a way to make that happen. |
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Originally Posted By SGTCap:
So if that was the goal would a Breach be a better option? |
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Originally Posted By UNV:
In "helmet mode" the image is a little smaller, but looks like a 1x so it matches the magnification of a PVS-14 or a MUM. The height, standoff, and IP distance on the MH25 are a little off from a MUM/PVS-14. We are looking at ways to make them line up using M-Clips and a modified dovetail. Nothing for sure on that yet, we just know it would be a good idea to make the MH25 line up with standard devices so we are going to find or create a way to make that happen. |
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I don't have a PVS 14 so that's probably why I don't understand what's being discussed here. If I am currently happy with the way my breech fits over my eye when helmet mounted using a dovetail mount and the armasite bayonet. Could I take my breach off of the armasight mount and replace with this Chinese skeet site and be good to go, and just as happy as I am with the way my breach fits over my eye? Thanks |
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Originally Posted By Wildfowler:
I don't have a PVS 14 so that's probably why I don't understand what's being discussed here. If I am currently happy with the way my breech fits over my eye when helmet mounted using a dovetail mount and the armasite bayonet. Could I take my breach off of the armasight mount and replace with this Chinese skeet site and be good to go, and just as happy as I am with the way my breach fits over my eye? Thanks |
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Thank you for this great review so far. Please try to test it on weapon. Is it possible to hunt with this. If it only shuts off after the shot, its not a big deal. When its broken then it is...
I already talked to iray. They might be able to deliver some samples to Europe as well. So this time ITAR would't by a problem for the rest of the world. By the way I have found on there website another interesting product 12uq and 640 x 512. I don't know if they are already shipping it but seems as a really nice clip-on. Clip CH42 |
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Originally Posted By Leftover_Salmon:
This is purely an observation, and a bit off topic. I can't help but notice that the menu icons look identical to the icons on the Bering Optics thermals. Is Bering Optics using IRay cores or software to build their stuff or is this purely coincidental? |
| Manufacturing of the MH25 was delayed about 10 days, but the 2nd shipment is scheduled for this week which means it should arrive next week. |
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Originally Posted By UNV:
Manufacturing of the MH25 was delayed about 10 days, but the 2nd shipment is scheduled for this week which means it should arrive next week. |
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Originally Posted By ThisWildAdventure: Can the China Skeet detect Coronavirus? Asking for a friend. 
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Does this require a protected 16650 cell, or will an unprotected cell suffice? I.e. is there a circuit to prevent the overdischarge of the Lithium cell? Can the USB port be used to recharge the cell? That would be mighty convenient. Could you run 2xCR123A with the extended tube? ( i imagine they would fit, but would 6V be healthy- I think maybe so since the device can tolerate 5V USB voltage) A single CR123A (duracell) is causing the unit to display low battery and switch off very quickly, like in minutes  |
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Originally Posted By dwkennedy: Does this require a protected 16650 cell, or will an unprotected cell suffice? I.e. is there a circuit to prevent the overdischarge of the Lithium cell? Can the USB port be used to recharge the cell? That would be mighty convenient. Could you run 2xCR123A with the extended tube? ( i imagine they would fit, but would 6V be healthy- I think maybe so since the device can tolerate 5V USB voltage) A single CR123A (duracell) is causing the unit to display low battery and switch off very quickly, like in minutes The USB-C port on the MH25 will power and send/receive data, but it does not charge the battery internally. Do not power the device with any combination of batteries, or any batteries at all that are not specifically mentioned in the manual. Here is a battery that we have had a good experience with so far. We will have some of these batteries in stock soon. If you have other questions feel free to give us a call.  |
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Thanks for your reply. I think I will obtain a USB bank and use it as a counterweight on my headgear, that way I will avoid having to remove the battery for recharging and I can enjoy extended periods of thermal viewing. It beats anything that's on TV these days! First time I took it out at night, I saw something that looked like a rabbit out the back door. I figured it was a piece of trash that had blown in, but when I went to pick it up it hopped away! I imagine there's all kinds of critters sneaking around at night that totally escape our human perception. This is worlds beyond the Magnavox scope I used years ago. I doubt I could have detected the rabbit with a PVS-14 either. As a fun toy, I think it may be a better value than a PVS-14 since I can use it 24/7  |
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I would agree on the value of thermal for sure! If you are looking for a good cable to use when helmet mounting this one works well - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D13HX3L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00 It is low profile and goes directly backwards under the MH25 when helmet mounted. Also, a 10,000 mAh anker will run the MH25 for close to 24 hours. |
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Your best bet is a Wilcox skeetIR bridge with a horn base And an OSS. Eyepieces are in stock.  |
| Correct as long as you already have an OSS. |
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I love my China skeet, probably one of the best values on the market and definitely the best value for a high performance thermal. I love what you guys did with the PVS-14 eyepiece. It’s 10x more usable now |
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Originally Posted By UNV: Correct as long as you already have an OSS. I'm currently running a pvs-14 with a Wilcox J arm. Do I just need one set of OSS adapters to run the pvs-14 with the mh25? Or do I need an OSS set (for the PVS-14) and a K-clip set (for the thermal)? I'm planning to run a KVC Bridge. |
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Originally Posted By hfrog355: I'm currently running a pvs-14 with a Wilcox J arm. Do I just need one set of OSS adapters to run the pvs-14 with the mh25? Or do I need an OSS set (for the PVS-14) and a K-clip set (for the thermal)? I'm planning to run a KVC Bridge. You technically just need ONE OSS adapter for the one eyeball which will look through the PVS-14. I never found anyone who would just sell me the left OSS or right OSS, though. And yes, you need a k-slip for the thermal (but UNV was including them with the purchase last I checked). |
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My reticle is disabled in mine. Also I need ideas for a DVR or recorder of some sort. It would be awesome if one of those little WiFi modules would plug into it and then connect to my phone for streaming and recording. But alas, I’ll keep wishing in one hand and ……. in the other. |
I really love the MH25 and the DVR. Some of the videos were captured during the day with highs near 100 and 106* heat index. Cola Warrior FlyOver 5 - The Emesis Strikes Back - Puke Compilation |
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Originally Posted By UNV_Rich: I am creating this thread to discuss the IRay Xmini MH25 thermal monocular. This is a unit that I am very excited about. There has been a gap in the industry for a compact, light-weight, helmet-mountable, 640 resolution thermal monocular that doesn't cost a fortune. Currently, the only mainstream options for helmet-mountable thermals are the FLIR Breach, Trijicon IR Patrol, and the Trijicon Skeet-IR. As a hunter, the advantages of a compact, helmet-mountable thermal monocular cannot be overstated. The amount of objects that you are able to detect with a helmet-mounted thermal that you would otherwise miss when using just a weapon scope, or even a handheld scanner is staggering. Additionally, the ability to keep your eyes on a target at all times while moving is extremely helpful for safety, efficiency, and situational awareness. We recently received a couple of these units for testing and were extremely surprised and impressed by the image quality and performance of these units. We will continue to test these units and provide additional information here as we learn more. Manufacturer: IRay Technologies Model: IRay Xmini MH25 Resolution: 640x480 Pixel Pitch: 12 Micron Refresh Rate: 50hz Objective Lens: 25mm Field of View: 17.5x14 degrees Eye Relief: 12mm Detection Range: 973 Meters Battery Life: CR123A: Up to 1.5 hours, 16650 Up to 3 hours Weight: 9.25 Ounces (Without battery) Dimensions: 4.75x2.75x1.75 inches https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49395410787_6ecf041ff1_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49394698548_5fef7459e5_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49395379772_aba3f9e68b_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49394706303_cc6a950f87_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49395387562_619276535c_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49394710198_4769b83165_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49395392967_1181b736a3_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49394703028_df9f6eaf28_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49395180631_661e4beed3_c.jpg @UNV_Rich Sending you an email. Posting here so you can see which Arfcom member I am. Have a matter which I would like to bring to your attention. Thanks |
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Gents - For those that have used this thermal, is the MH25 weapon clip on capable? I thought I read that it was possible, but someone posted in this threat that it wasn't due to lack of culmination. My primary use would be clip on (in front of optic) and secondary would be helmet mounted. |
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Originally Posted By Zone0ne: Gents - For those that have used this thermal, is the MH25 weapon clip on capable? I thought I read that it was possible, but someone posted in this threat that it wasn't due to lack of culmination. My primary use would be clip on (in front of optic) and secondary would be helmet mounted. I don't think it can be used as a clip on. Not sure the recoil rating and if the height dimensions are correct either. But I could be wrong, I'd email UNV for clarification. But I use mine as helmet mounted. I love it. |
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Originally Posted By DirtyHandsRob: I don't think it can be used as a clip on. Not sure the recoil rating and if the height dimensions are correct either. But I could be wrong, I'd email UNV for clarification. But I use mine as helmet mounted. I love it. Yeah I don't think it can as there's no mention of it. I went with a RH25 for a clip on. Ultimately if I want a helmet thermal solution I'm leaning heavily towards a Jerry CE5 or CE2 to use in conjunction w/ my NODs. |