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8/27/2024 5:18:50 PM EDT
Few years back I had heard they were gonna do a Colt 602 after doing the M16A1 reissue and XM16E1 reissue. Any chance Colt will do more retro rifles?

Thanks,

1981
8/27/2024 6:34:27 PM EDT
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@Minuteman1636
8/28/2024 10:55:20 PM EDT
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I am not a moderator but I can chime in.

The Colt "Military Classics" series consisted of:

LE6920SOCOM- continuous production since 2018.
CRM16A1- limited edition of 2500...about 2018
CRXM177E2- limited edition of 2500....about 2019
CRGAU-5A- limited edition of 500...2020/2021ish
CRXM16E1- limited edition of 500...2020/2021ish maybe 2022.

I think I'm missing something but it escapes me at the moment. My limited edition numbers on the GAU-5A and the XM16E1 may be remembered incorrectly. It's been a day.
8/29/2024 3:48:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636:
I am not a moderator but I can chime in.

The Colt "Military Classics" series consisted of:

LE6920SOCOM- continuous production since 2018.
CRM16A1- limited edition of 2500...about 2018
CRXM177E2- limited edition of 2500....about 2019
CRGAU-5A- limited edition of 500...2020/2021ish
CRXM16E1- limited edition of 500...2020/2021ish maybe 2022.

I think I'm missing something but it escapes me at the moment. My limited edition numbers on the GAU-5A and the XM16E1 may be remembered incorrectly. It's been a day.
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Is colt planning anything else?  A 601 or 602 maybe?
8/29/2024 4:08:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AKPILOT:


Is colt planning anything else?  A 601 or 602 maybe?
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Not at this time that I know of. But, I'm not a wheel in the cog so I can only speculate.
8/31/2024 8:54:16 AM EDT
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Thanks! Wish they would make a run of the semi auto M16a1s at a reasonable price. Probably will never happen.

Thanks,

1981
8/31/2024 9:02:10 AM EDT
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My sources told me that Colt had found/gained access to a large amount of New Old Stock (NOS) parts and used those (along with plenty of new parts and help from another company) to build the retro line.  

If this claim is true, that would explain why they would not be coming back.  Cause if they had tooled up to make new old parts it could make sense to just keep making them.

That said, I feel that had they found NOS parts, and advertised that these were made with those, it would have really helped marketing.  When I discussed this with the source I had, they also agreed that it should have been said.

All hearsay for what it is worth.
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8/31/2024 9:04:18 AM EDT
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Those MF'ers at CZ/Colt are for sure looking at the retro game right now and know they are missing out.  I bet we see a full line of their retro rifles in "limited production" at some point.  I'd buy 2 of everything they release.
8/31/2024 9:11:19 AM EDT
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But people already think Colt sits on it's laurels way to often and doesn't offer new improved products.

Retro isn't new or improved.

And making a few runs of something that can't be done on the normal product line is expensive, and to keep selling them for the premium Colt needs for a profit, they have to be sold at a far higher price. To keep that price high, you limit production numbers.

I always wondered if Colt ever made a dime or even lost money on their Carbonia Blued 1911 Reissue. I'm betting they, at best, broke even, nothing more.
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9/2/2024 6:32:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
My sources told me that Colt had found/gained access to a large amount of New Old Stock (NOS) parts and used those (along with plenty of new parts and help from another company) to build the retro line.  

If this claim is true, that would explain why they would not be coming back.  Cause if they had tooled up to make new old parts it could make sense to just keep making them.

That said, I feel that had they found NOS parts, and advertised that these were made with those, it would have really helped marketing.  When I discussed this with the source I had, they also agreed that it should have been said.

All hearsay for what it is worth.
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That’s fascinating to hear. I personally handled several of the M16A1 semi auto retro rifles, and many of the ones that I saw appeared to have original stocks, grips, and hand guards.  I also saw a few that had a mix of new & NOS furniture.
9/2/2024 10:17:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
My sources told me that Colt had found/gained access to a large amount of New Old Stock (NOS) parts and used those (along with plenty of new parts and help from another company) to build the retro line.  

If this claim is true, that would explain why they would not be coming back.  Cause if they had tooled up to make new old parts it could make sense to just keep making them.

That said, I feel that had they found NOS parts, and advertised that these were made with those, it would have really helped marketing.  When I discussed this with the source I had, they also agreed that it should have been said.

All hearsay for what it is worth.
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The Colt Retro line firearms were contracted out to US Ordnance and were made of new parts, including the machining of the A1 lowers. One of my best Arms Unlimited scores was a Colt Retro Reissue m16a1 lower that was split from a full gun.

It's not like they are a bad subcontractor, they build m240's, m60's and plenty of other heavy ordnance. Colt could do it again, either Colt or US Ordnance does have the roll mark die and machine considering the last release.

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